converting xbox!!!

[baruk]

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kinsa man kabalo mo convert xbox diri!!! unsa na ic iliasan!!!!

[EarlZ]

kinsa man kabalo mo convert xbox diri!!! unsa na ic iliasan!!!!

sensitive topic

[baruk]

kamao sad ka da!!!!!ok ra na uy!!!! nindot noon dagahan makat on !!!!unsa man imong kahadlokan!!!!!kong naay daghan ma kat on!!!!

[irangejuice]

[ topic locked - if you had read the forum rules, you'd know why ]

[irangejuice]

[ topic unlocked - on 2nd thought, converting, modifiying the box isn't really what I would consider illegal activity. Just don't ask where to download or buy games you intend to run on this thing ]

[EarlZ]

In the eyes of M$ its very illegal

[irangejuice]

Yes, and for almost the SAME REASONS why modding my car, my camera, my pda, my phone, my computer is NOT illegal.
It's one of Mircrosoft's weakest points of argument, exagerated by their anti-competitive nature, and tossed around internationally as they throw their weight around. It is very arguable and this thread could actually be a good place to start, if people are interested, that is.

Which is why I, personally, would not really consider this an illegal activity. I have my own set of morals directly incompatible with that of Microsoft's and should that be a problem, Earlz, you are very much welcomed to report to the site administrator for the locking of this topic.

[EarlZ]

Yes, and for almost the SAME REASONS why modding my car, my camera, my pda, my phone, my computer is NOT illegal.

ROFL
Its because modding you engine or you car parts doesnt allow you to run Xbox360 bootleg games or make copies from it ( unless you add a writer and the modded xbox360 ofcourse )
Ive never seen any camera mods that allow to run any bootleg software,same with a pda and a phone just running a bunch of cracked software and no hard mod needed.
ofcourse desktop PC is modding is not illegal. Also im perfectly aware that buying a peice of hardware and modding it in a way you please is no where illegal even modding it to run bootleg softwares (on a user's PoV)

Earlz, you are very much welcomed to report to the site administrator for the locking of this topic.

Dunno what i would gain from reporting anything to the admin, infact i dont even know what good is it to remind people about asking for bootleg copies and ect.but the statement sounded like a little attack to me anyway carry on the discussions as long as theres no bootlegging discussion around.. wait why am i even concerned about bootlegging discssions.. LOL

do take note: its currently in the eyes of the company.

[EarlZ]

boss!!i prove kono na illegal ang pag convert!!!! basta naay law nga nag state na illegal ang pag modified in any electronic things or gadget!!!!mo pahawa k sa istorya!!!!

Like i said, no need to confront me in private message. now you'r going all out and saying that. You did notice at first i said:

kinsa man kabalo mo convert xbox diri!!! unsa na ic iliasan!!!!

sensitive topic

Anyway its only illegal in the eyes of the manufacturer and im not sure if any other state laws have it but here are some links that should shed you some light
http://www.austech.info/showthread.p...5&page=1&pp=15 ( a forum talking about it )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4650225.stm ( Man convicted for chipping Xbox )
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/631/631118p1.html ( First Ever Console Modding Conviction )
http://binarybonsai.com/archives/200...nsole-modding/ ( Console Modding )
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050705-5061.html (UK man convicted in Xbox modding case, same as the second link in a different form of report)
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/.../t-130148.html

on the last link:

Once you actually own a console, it's yours, and you're free to do with it as you please. If that Dreamcast makes an excellent doorstop, nobody's saying you can't use it as one (I think that's the most common use for N64s these days, come to think of it.)

Where you run into illegality with a modded console is when you use it to play pirated games, which is illegal

Once you actually own a console, it's yours, and you're free to do with it as you please.Nope, not according to the DMCA. Modding an Xbox requires breaking encryption, bypassing copy protection, and loading software usually based upon stolen bioses and compiled with illegally obtained SDKs.

See my point in where its the parts are illegal? thats why on my first reply i said "sensitive topic"

Modifying a console, via hardware or software, is illegal. It's in the Terms of Agreement that's included with the system ( from other sources )

Now im not asking you to leave, just showing you some links to prove some facts about console modding.

[irangejuice]

quote check: "almost" try Ctrl+F-- you'll find it.

Cars: a lot of mods that are not street legal but are allowed into cars as long as the car operates within the limits of road/traffic laws.
camera: obviously, you haven't heard of the unleashing of the Canon 300D's features through a 3rd party firmware update. this is softmod though but the general idea is the same.
PDA and fone: same.

How is modding a PC any less different than modding an game console? Both are running something proprietary, one way or another.

You site a car's inability to play copied games--which only shows that you've lead yourself to that conclusion almost instantly when all the discussion prior to your post was concentrated on modding and not pirating. It's a common misconception..it's like how torrents are automatically equalled to pirating when in fact torrenting is merely an efficient means of file sharing.


Hey cool! links! there was a time when i was actually paid to read through these and tech blog about 'em..lemme check 'em out.

asustech link: opinions and idiots in the same forum..skipping.
bbc: he was selling them? that's pirating..tsk tsk.
ign: same ***** who sold 'em.
binarybonsai: pretty good article, actually.. did you read it? emphasis here was more on the modding and not the buckaneering.
arstechnica: this is the 3rd time you posted the same idiot who got convicted.
htforum: bunch of guys with generally good input. some idiots here and there.

best one and recommended reading: binarybonsai.

The terms of agreements' basis on illegality is mostly based on assumptions (usually holds true but not all the time) and can only be proved WHEN the person is actually caught already. (Kinda like a sick loop) Any other way, and I'm pretty sure the manufacturers themselves will be violating the EULA, or some form of human right. (can someone smell the shredded first ammendment? I dunno what's the equiv of that here in the Philippines but I know it'll stink the same)

@baruk: Just in case you might be thinking that I'm siding with you..i'm not. Your intentions for modding are pretty obvious and I'm actually against them. I'm into modding for the sake of modding..for unleasing versatilities..and for again the sake of modding (this goes with PC and all the other s**t i mod too). As for my Xbox and Xbox 360 games..they're all legit (you can check 'em here if you want or you can ask the BFW group).