Ping vs. Erap

[godwhacker]

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Round 1 goes to Ping...


Lacson links Estrada to illegal gambling

By Christine Avendaño
INQUIRER.net, Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 15:47:00 09/14/2009

MANILA, Philippines— (UPDATE 2) Senator Panfilo Lacson on Monday exposed former President Joseph Estrada’s extensive involvement in the illegal numbers game “jueteng,” rice smuggling, and “other misdeeds” during his short-lived administration from 1998 to early 2001.

In a privilege speech, Lacson also hinted Estrada may have a hand in the 2000 murders of publicist Salvador “Bubby” Dacer and his driver, Emmanuel Corbito.

Lacson said Estrada used to issue orders directly to his police officers way back when Lacson was still the chief of the Philippine National Police.

The top police official during Estrada’s time did not say it outright but his take on Estrada’s relationship with the PNP seems to buttress the claim of state witness and former police official Cezar Mancao II that Estrada approved Operation Delta, the alleged plan to liquidate Dacer.

“(I) have personal knowledge on this, during his presidency, he was giving direct orders and instructions deep into the layers of the entire government bureaucracy, the PNP, and Presidential Anti Organized Crime Task Force,” Lacson told fellow senators.

He made the insinuation after lashing out at Estrada for accusing him of “supervising” Mancao’s recent testimony on an operation called Oplan Delta to neutralize Dacer.

Lacson denied he knew about such operation.

“Instead of just defending himself, why is he pointing a finger at someone else?” he asked.

Lacson said his relationship with then President Estrada soured when the president asked him to allow the jueteng to continue under Lacson’s watch as Philippine National Police chief.

He spoke of two occasions when Estrada had asked him to allow jueteng operations to continue without any interference from authorities. Lacson said Estrada strongly implied in one of their meetings that his appointment as PNP chief would hinge on his giving way to jueteng operations.

At that time, Lacson said he told Estrada he did not want to have anything to do with the P5 million monthly jueteng payola being given by Ilocos Sur Governor Chavit Singson to the PNP chief.

He said he learned four months after his appointment that Estrada asked Singson to remit the payola intended for him.

“Jueteng became a sore point between me and Mr. Estrada,” he said.

Lacson said his friends would tell him later that Edsa 2, which toppled Estrada in January 2001, “would not have happened if I went along with Mr. Estrada and Governor Singson and altogether tolerated jueteng operations.”

A few minutes before he delivered his speech, Lacson told reporters that the Estrada camp was trying to work on him up until Sunday night.

He said that since last week three men, all common friends of his and Estrada, had approached him on his privilege speech.

The last person who approached him last Sunday night asked him to postpone the speech on Monday so that Lacson and Estrada could meet and talk.

Lacson made it clear he did not know whether Estrada was aware of this overture of their common friend.

He said he could no longer postpone his plan to deliver the speech because everything was all set in the Senate.

The Senate session hall was packed with people, including whistleblowers Sandra Cam, Vidal Doble, and Boy Barredo.

Cam was the one who blew the whistle on jueteng (a numbers game) against the family members of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo; Doble, the 2005 Hello Garci scandal; and Barredo, the P728-million fertilizer fund scam.
Christine O. Avendaño, Philippine Daily Inquirer

[lestat1116]

eng eng eng.. unsa kaha labas ani.

[misha lang]

wait and see what will happen next .

[godwhacker]

Round 2 goes to Erap... patas na sila...


Erap denies Lacson charges
AIE BALAGTAS SEE, GMANews.TV
09/14/2009 | 08:20 PM

Former President Joseph Estrada on Monday belied all the accusations hurled against him by Sen. Panfilo Lacson, even as he questioned the lawmaker's motives against him.

In an interview over GMA News' prime time newscast "24 Oras", Estrada expressed doubts about Lacson’s timing, saying the lawmaker could be attacking him because of his high ratings in the presidential race surveys.

"Hindi ko nga malaman eh kung ano ang kanyang motibo na gagawin niya yan puro kasinungalingan naman. Kung may katotohanan yan dapat noon pa bakit nag antay siya ng halos siyam na tao bago niya isniwalat yan.... Kung may ebidensya siya dapat nilabas na niya yan nung ako nililitis pa sa Sandiganbayan. Anong motibo niya dahil nakikita niya na isa tayo sa top survey sa pagka presidente?" Estrada said.

(I don't know what his motives are. If he's telling the truth, why did he have to wait for nine years... If he had evidence, he should have divulged them when I was on trial. Why only now, when I'm near the top of the surveys for the presidency?)

Estrada was reacting to Lacson’s privilege speech at the Senate where the lawmaker accused him of being a protector of jueteng operators, a godfather of smugglers, and a bully. [See: Lacson declares all-out war vs ex-boss; Erap fights back]

According to Lacson, he and Estrada had a disagreement in 2000 over jueteng, a popular illegal numbers game, resulting to him being unofficially declared as a virtual persona non grata in Malacañang. He said Estrada wanted to keep jueteng going despite his repeated objections as then chief of the Philippine National Police (PNP).

Estrada denied using jueteng for his personal gains. He said he even wanted to legalize instead of eradicating the numbers game because the government has no alternative jobs to offer those poor people who rely on it as their means of living.

The former president also said he could not understand why Lacson, then PNP chief, is accusing him of protecting smugglers when he gave him the “full authority" to put a stop to the illegal activity.

Dacer-Corbito

During his speech, Lacson fell short of accusing directly linking Estrada to the Dacer-Corbito killings, only saying that the former president had micro-managed the now defunct Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Task Force (PAOCTF), which is implicated in the case, during his term.

But Estrada reiterated his earlier statement that he was not involved in the killings. He also claimed that Lacson could be pinning him down because “naiipit na ata siya dun sa Dacer-Corbito gusto niya yata humanap ng damay.."

Estrada also said he did not know the police officers involved in the double murder.

“Hindi ako kailanman nag utos sa subordinate niya. Lahat yan ay under his direct supervision. Kami lang ang nagkakausap. Ganon ang style ng management ko yung lang head lang ng agency ang kasusap ko."

At the same time, Estrada denied forcing businessman Alfonso Yuchengco to sign conveyance of his 7.75 percent Philippine Telecommunications Investment Corporation holdings, equivalent to 18,720 shares, to Metro Pacific represented by Manuel Pangilinan.

According to Estrada, he and the government were not involved, as it was a private transaction and he never meddled with private transactions during his term.

[epoyking]

kani mga bro wala japon ni padulngan.. ang ilaha ra jud ani kay aron makit-an napud sila sa mga tao sa tv.. duol na gud election...

[masterjanuarius]

strategy ni ping: init na kaayo ang dacer-corbito case mao nga nag himo siya ug laing isyu para ang media motutok kang erap et al; ang problema kay mag poncio pilato siya .. pero jinggoy et al dili sad papilde .. we are spectators of a pathetic drama .. mag labayanay ni sila ug accusations .. haha .. makabawo na jud ta kinsa gayod ang mipatay kang Tuadles ug kang bentain ..hehe

[rambutan]

naglabayanay ra sila ug tae.. that proves na wala jud maau nilang duha.

[joremz]

asusssssss...away_away kunuhay...hmmmm..pareho ra mong duha oi. Kauban ra man gani mo sa admin. Ang resulta ani, VILLAR ilang gipasikat. Ngil-ngig ning duwaa da. Ilaron na pud ang mga bogo ga mga tawo...Presure_presure kunuhay sa Admin to Lacson. ASussss.anha ra ko motoo ug dunay makalas nga live/s usa sa mga opposition or administration just like the poor dacer..Ug wala man gani, pwe! kadakong drama.....

[joremz]

NAGKAGUBOT na kana silang tanan kay si NOYNOY unexpectedly nidagan...Kamo pud people, don't look and observe on the cover. Tan-awa tanan angle para dili ta manga-ilad...

[lestat1116]

nagduwa sila og mga tae. manimaho jud na og maayo.