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    Default Theosophy/NAM Satanic in NATURE? lecture 101


    Theosophy is a doctrine of religious philosophy and metaphysics originating with Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (1831-1891)
    Together with Henry Steel Olcott, William Quan Judge, and others, Blavatsky founded the Theosophical Society.
    Theosophy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    NEW AGE
    Neo-Theosophist Alice Bailey published the book Discipleship in the New Age (1944), which used the term New Age in reference to the transition from the Astrological Age of Pisces to Aquarius


    CONNECTION:
    Her(Alice Ann Bailey) writings were influenced by the works of Madame Blavatsky. Though Bailey's writings differ from Theosophy, they also have much in common with it.
    Alice Bailey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The present-day New Age movement is to a considerable extent based on the teachings of Blavatsky, though some writers have described Alice Bailey as the founder of the "New Age movement".
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    NOW WE GOT A CASE... AGREE?


    ACCUSATIONS for NAM:
    1. Alice Bailey & Master Djwhal Khul: A Satanic Communion
    “Preparation too must be given to the developing of higher psychic powers...Hospitals and schools will appear under the direct guidance of the Masters; Teachers... will train the minds of the pupils to be responsive to direct inspiration from above. ”
    Alice Bailey & Master DK Djwhal Khul: A Satanic Communion

    ACCUSATIONS FOR THEOSOPHY
    1. NEW JESUS?
    The Master Jesus[1], within the metaphysical system of Theosophy, refers to the theosophical concept of Jesus as opposed to the Jesus Christ of the Christian religion.

    According to Alice A. Bailey, the Master Jesus was previously incarnated as Joshua, the Hebrew military leader in the 13th century BC, and Joshua the High Priest in the sixth century BC.

    Helena Blavatsky, a founder of the Theosophical Society, wrote in 1877: "Apollonius, a contemporary of Jesus of Nazareth, was, like him, an enthusiastic founder of a new spiritual school. Perhaps less metaphysical and more practical than Jesus, less tender and perfect in his nature, he nevertheless inculcated the same quintessence of spirituality, and the same high moral truths."[15] Some Theosophists such as C.W. Leadbeater and the teachers of Neo-Theosophy, Alice A. Bailey and Benjamin Creme, have written that the Master Jesus was also incarnated as Apollonius of Tyana after his incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth.
    Master Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Comparison with Theosophy
    Theosophists are divided on their assessment of Alice Bailey's writings. For instance, the noted contemporary Theosophical writer Geoffrey Hodson wrote a highly favorable review of one her books, saying, "Once more Alice Bailey has placed occult students in her debt."
    Alice Bailey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    CULT VS OCCULT
    Cults - Some cults are offshoots of ancient pagan religions, have no similarity to Christianity, and are easy to identify.

    Occult - The occult is particularly deceptive because the spirit world is very real. Practitioners are dealing with reality -- but dark, forbidden, and evil reality.

    Its up to you readers to know, we are all entitled to know... my research is just a few hours to sum-up so forgive me if I mislead... its up to you to examine... I posted my sources... I stand corrected if Indeed I mislead.

    I believe this posts is justified by similar posts that runs for a long time...
    BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS?
    Last edited by kebot; 07-04-2009 at 03:48 PM.

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    This are just the my main accusation. I remember one time that REG is pushing THEOSOPHY and NAM. If anyone wants to dispute... state what you don't like in my posts then we can discuss... This is no mocking session for me...

    Any dispute, will be taken seriously. Christians its now time to tell them they are no better than ours. Please do help(just don't push your idea to force them... present your evidence let them evaluate...). People have the right to know? Our objective is TRUTH, right?

    IMO: "It is not fun to go to hell".

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    All I can say is this manoy:


    “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” - Jesus The Christ

    In other words:

    I don't waste my valuable wisdom or advice on idiots or fools.
    As tossing lovely pearls in front of pigs, the offering will be disregarded and defile!

    Im sorry if I call you an idiot or fool manoy!

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    I don't know where did you based it brod kebots...

    pero on the Catholic Church...pertaning to the Occultism, horroscopes..etc...:


    Question: Is it morally acceptable for Christians to involve
    themselves in various forms of fortune telling and divination,
    including superstition and reading horoscopes?

    Answer: No. The Church teaches that all such activities are sinful. Of course, the
    sinfulness varies depending on the type and intensity of the activity practiced, but all are
    contrary to the faith. The Scriptures clearly condemn such activity. The Book of
    Deuteronomy states: “Let there not be found among you anyone who immolates his son
    or daughter in the fire, nor a fortune-teller, soothsayer, charmer, diviner or caster of
    spells, nor one who consults ghosts and spirits or seeks oracles from the dead. Anyone
    who does such things is an abomination to the Lord” (Dt.18:10-11).

    The penalty for such activity was rather severe: "A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortune-teller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their
    death" (Lv.20:27).


    St. Paul reaffirms this prohibition: “…the works of the flesh are
    obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness…idolatry, sorcery…. I warn you, as I
    warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God”
    (Gal.5:19-21).


    Finally, the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church repeats the prohibition
    on all forms of divination and occult practices: “All forms of divination are to be
    rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely
    supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading,
    interpretations of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to
    mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other
    human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor,
    respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone” (Catechism, 2116).

    Why is this so?: Following horoscope, etc. is putting our faith and the authority over our
    lives in the hands of someone or something other than God. In general, people who are
    content in their life and at peace in the sight of God do not tend to delve into the occult.
    People looking for answers to difficult questions, for an end to some pain or suffering, or
    who are hopelessly curious tend to turn to such activities. Even if they don’t intend it at
    first, once they start to ascribe any power whatsoever to such activities, they begin to
    question the power of God. They start to find hope in some power outside of God, and if
    these sources can provide immediate answers to their questions, then why bother going to
    God at all, since God’s way is so difficult and takes so much more effort to discern?
    Fortune telling is seen as infinitely easier. As a result, their life begins to be governed, not
    by prayer and following the Gospel, but by tarot cards and psychics. In the end, they
    become involved in blatant idolatry, sometimes even worshipping false gods (such as in
    Wicca), and always ascribing the sovereignty over their lives to another power, a
    sovereignty which is supposed to be given to God alone.


    http://www.sacredheartparish.org/fly...e%20Occult.pdf

    but then if you're not a Catholic...the above one is not intended for you...
    Last edited by seven_segment; 07-04-2009 at 11:21 AM.

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    brad,

    obvious kaau imong agenda na personal.. tsk, tsk, tsk..

    IMO: "It is not fun to go to hell".
    with your own agenda, i think u have business class ticket going there already..

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    Yes, brad im no catholic. So the above you pointed out is subject for examination if it is indeed acceptable. One sided definition means another thing.. but thanks for posting... Im reading.

    Reg I don't care if you are more Einstein or what.... "False prophet can do miracles"... To tell you... You are not justified by saying you are wiser than me, coz im no wiser than you... Just face the accusation and eyes on the board. I'm serious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven_segment View Post
    I don't know where did you based it brod kebots...

    pero on the Catholic Church...pertaning to the Occultism, horroscopes..etc...:


    Question: Is it morally acceptable for Christians to involve
    themselves in various forms of fortune telling and divination,
    including superstition and reading horoscopes?

    Answer: No. The Church teaches that all such activities are sinful. Of course, the
    sinfulness varies depending on the type and intensity of the activity practiced, but all are
    contrary to the faith. The Scriptures clearly condemn such activity. The Book of
    Deuteronomy states: “Let there not be found among you anyone who immolates his son
    or daughter in the fire, nor a fortune-teller, soothsayer, charmer, diviner or caster of
    spells, nor one who consults ghosts and spirits or seeks oracles from the dead. Anyone
    who does such things is an abomination to the Lord” (Dt.18:10-11). The penalty for such
    activity was rather severe: "A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortune-teller
    shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their
    death" (Lv.20:27). St. Paul reaffirms this prohibition: “…the works of the flesh are
    obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness…idolatry, sorcery…. I warn you, as I
    warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God”
    (Gal.5:19-21). Finally, the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church repeats the prohibition
    on all forms of divination and occult practices: “All forms of divination are to be
    rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely
    supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading,
    interpretations of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to
    mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other
    human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor,
    respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone” (Catechism, 2116).
    Why is this so?: Following horoscope, etc. is putting our faith and the authority over our
    lives in the hands of someone or something other than God. In general, people who are
    content in their life and at peace in the sight of God do not tend to delve into the occult.
    People looking for answers to difficult questions, for an end to some pain or suffering, or
    who are hopelessly curious tend to turn to such activities. Even if they don’t intend it at
    first, once they start to ascribe any power whatsoever to such activities, they begin to
    question the power of God. They start to find hope in some power outside of God, and if
    these sources can provide immediate answers to their questions, then why bother going to
    God at all, since God’s way is so difficult and takes so much more effort to discern?
    Fortune telling is seen as infinitely easier. As a result, their life begins to be governed, not
    by prayer and following the Gospel, but by tarot cards and psychics. In the end, they
    become involved in blatant idolatry, sometimes even worshipping false gods (such as in
    Wicca), and always ascribing the sovereignty over their lives to another power, a
    sovereignty which is supposed to be given to God alone.



    but then if you're not a Catholic...the above one is not intended for you...
    brad, read history, pre-15th century roman catholicism..
    it is the work of pre-ordained astronomers and mathematicians commanded by the church to make up horoscope readings for the entire year. roman catholic church before even have emperor of the roman empire, and lahi pud ang position sa pope gani..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    brad,

    obvious kaau imong agenda na personal.. tsk, tsk, tsk..



    with your own agenda, i think u have business class ticket going there already..
    Well at least i declare my IMO(In MY Opinion). Did you... forget this crap brad if you want to defense just do it... dont talk non-sense... were done right? if not open a thread then lets share the shame...

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    Its no use talking to a RELIGIOUS FANATIC who has sealed his poor mind since the time of FUNDAMENTALISM or BORN AGAINST MOVEMENT? hehehe
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    mao diay na ang theosophy.. interesting lagi

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