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    The Catholic church declares unto all that are of her church to embrace and gather as many statues, medals, relics, and artifacts to themselves as a sign of holiness unto the Lord God. However, the Creator specifically states...

    Exodus 20:4, "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

    Deuteronomy 29:17, "And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them

    The Catholic church teaches it's followers to bow down before statues when in prayer. Anyone can walk into a Catholic church and see kneelers before every statue place within. However, the Creator specifically states...

    Exodus 20:5, "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"

    Leviticus 26:1, "Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."

    The Catholic church proclaims loudly that Jesus is dead and unable to help you. Walk into any Catholic church and you will see a DEAD Jesus on a cross, a DEAD Jesus in the arms of His mother, or an INFANT Jesus in the arms of His mother. However, look at the MEN and WOMEN depicted in statues. Look at Mary, Joseph, Peter, Anthony, and hundreds of other saints. They are all displayed as alive and well and very capable of helping you and hearing your prayers. However, it is written...
    Acts 25:19, "But had certain questions against him of their own superstition, and of one Jesus, which was dead, whom Paul affirmed to be alive."

    Matthew 28:6, "He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay."

    The Angels were more concerned with us gazing unto the place were Jesus lay, than the place where He hung!

    The Catholic church declares that you must bow before and display acts of worship unto a MAN called Pope. The very words of these Popes are such that they proclaim themselves "God on earth" for all Catholic to adore...

    "The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself" -Catholic National July 1895.

    "We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty" -Pope Leo XIII

    The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4 (For more info see "The Words of a Beast" page)

    However, the Word of God exposes them graphically when it is written...

    Romans 1:25, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

    The Catholic church declares that all should pray unto Mary, Joseph, Therese, and hundreds of other saints. The Catholic church even goes so far at to declare Mary as your Saviour!

    May 7, 1997 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist News Service, 1701 Harns Rd., Oak Harbor, WA 98277) - On May 7 Pope John Paul II dedicated his general audience to "the Virgin Mary" and urged all Christians to accept Mary as their mother. He noted the words spoken by Jesus on the cross to Mary and to John-- "Woman, behold thy son!" and "Behold thy mother!" (John 19:26,27), and he claimed that in this statement "IT IS POSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND THE AUTHENTIC MEANING OF MARIAN WORSHIP in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ" (Vatican Information Service, May 7, 1997).

    John Paul II underlined that "the history of Christian piety teaches that MARY IS THE PATH THAT LEADS TO CHRIST, and that filial devotion to her does not at all diminish intimacy with Jesus, but rather, it increases it and leads it to very high levels of perfection." He concluded by asking all Christians "to make room (for Mary) in their daily lives, ACKNOWLEDGING HER PROVIDENTIAL ROLE IN THE PATH OF SALVATION" (Ibid.).

    However, Jesus said rather plainly... John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    The Catholic church demands that all it's members wear medals, crucifixes, scapulars, etc. Even the demons that appear unto them masquarading as Mary and Jesus state...

    "Wear the brown Scapular and other sacramentals." Also it states everyone should "-Keep the statues in your homes." -Bayside "The Lourdes of America" Jesus and Mary Speak to the World Through Veronica Lueken

    "Wear any size crucifix that you can find. It does no have to be big or small, but an image of My Son" Directives from Heaven From the vision of "-Our Lady, Sept. 7 1985"


    "You must keep them upon you, with a crucifix. We demand a crucifix. Directives from Heaven From the vision of "-Jesus, June 18, 1987"

    The Pope himself stated in 1981, "When Pope John Paul II was shot and operated on in 1981, he told doctors not to remove the brown scapular he was wearing. One of the two "most recommended" devotions of the Church... Pope John Paul is convinced that Our Lady of Mount Carmel, along with Our Lady of Fatima, saved him from the bullets of Mehmet Ali Agca. [See Inside the Vatican, July 2001, page 44] The Virgin Mary appeared at the final apparition of Fatima (Portugal) and at Lourdes (France) wearing the brown scapular.
    The pontiff, a Third Order Carmelite, has worn the scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel since he was a young boy. He frequent asks Our Lady of Mount Carmel to help him make important decisions. -by John Drogin, ITV staff writer Vatican Magazine

    If only the Catholics would open their Bibles and see that what these demons are saying, and what the Word has penned are two different things! For it is written...
    1 John 4:1, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

    The Catholic church declares that Jesus Christ incarnate is in the Catholic Eucharist that is made with human hands. It also states rather boldly that...

    "If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist (communion wafer) are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as a sign, or figure or force, let him be anathema." (One exhausted definition of "Anathema" = To be damned and put to death) Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent. Original text with English translation, by Rev. H.J. Schroeder, O.P., B. Herder Book Co. 1960, p.79, Canon 1.

    The Creator God could not have said it plainer when it was written...
    Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

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    brod murag d ni maau imu thread.............mods pls delete this thread kay mka cause ni ug argument dri.....

    brader kindly read the rules.....................

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    @thread starter: and your point is?

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    Hmmmm remind me again who was asking me, why I was thinking that this guy has a grudge on us; as Catholics.

    Created a handle just to post everything that was already created as a thread and was discussed already. Futile attempt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    Hmmmm remind me again who was asking me, why I was thinking that this guy has a grudge on us; as Catholics.

    Created a handle just to post everything that was already created as a thread and was discussed already. Futile attempt!
    i dont hate catholics, i mean you "people". it's just your beliefs that's all....
    i guess there's nothing wrong in comparing your beliefs to the bible..
    how come your beliefs most of the time contradicts the bible?
    i am just asking?

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    We are what we believe, and is our belief hurting you?
    If it is against the bible let us be, if you yourself read the bible, you should know that what you are doing is terribly wrong.

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    This goes back to the same question, my religion is better than yours.... hohummm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    We are what we believe, and is our belief hurting you?
    If it is against the bible let us be, if you yourself read the bible, you should know that what you are doing is terribly wrong.
    well yes it does hurt me to see people going in the wrong direction...
    it's like seeing you mother doing something stupid aren't going to do something to correct her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r5s3cryan View Post
    well yes it does hurt me to see people going in the wrong direction...
    it's like seeing you mother doing something stupid aren't going to do something to correct her?
    Wrong direction? You mean to say that your religion is the right direction? I suppose other religions are wrong then. Question, who gave you the right to say that other religions are wrong and yours is the right way, the bible?

    Do you know that other religion think the same way to your religion too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r5s3cryan View Post
    i dont hate catholics, i mean you "people". it's just your beliefs that's all....
    i guess there's nothing wrong in comparing your beliefs to the bible..
    how come your beliefs most of the time contradicts the bible?
    i am just asking?

    I am just amazed at how some people are still "fossilized" in their divisive stand, when the current air as regards faith is concerned is, "ecumenism and dialogue". bro, thanks for your insults, este, concerns!

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