prog. in the industry?

[pulchra]

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unsa man jud ang naa sa industry?....

my friend told me that ikaw lang kono bahala sa codes( diskarte nlng kono kng unsa-on.. ma long cut or short cut as long as mahuman and mo run) PHP web application na type sa industry........

depende na kono kng ctype ba or ereg... insert or session array sa add to cart...

unsa man jud ang true? ok ra ba na bisag unsa na pama-agi as ling as mahuman ang project or sondun jud ang standards?

salamat

fresh grad pako wala pay experience....

[javapenguin]

I have read a programming book that says:

Finding a solution is easy but knowing the best solution is difficult.

So, there are many solutions to a problem, what you need to ask is ... Is this efficient, well structured , more secure, more scalable ..... & etc.

[dlanyer77]

my keyword here is QUALITY since you're a fresh grad then let quality be your practice while doing your primary task. this is very important if you're into an agile development.

let me start with the first question, IMO any type of industry should have brilliant and hard working people.

secondly, your friend must read about Joseph Juran's article who defines quality "fitness for use" or Philip Crosby's article who also defines quality "doing right things right at the first time". These two Guru's where not IT professionals rather they are responsible for what our output must be.

lastly, if your organization don't have a testing team then you may deviate to the ideal way of following the standards but take the risk, such as maintainability issues.

[MarkCuering]

sometime in our projects where I was a lead engineer before, I had 7 guys in my team. whom I told them to work only for "Interface" (6 person including me) and 2 guys working only for "Auxiliary Intefaces". and the management loves of what we are doing... that is why we aren't doing this anymore (I miss a lot this kind of stuff) instead, we just developing and making some guidelines and had this another opportunity with them...

here's a very simple and plain example... by the way I got this idea sa programming lessons and real life understanding of "Interface-based Programming", "application programming interface" and pain experience of working C/C++... and hard times thinking and finding ways of making such "reuseable code".


Problem: you are told to create a functions/classes that handles different polygon/geometry works.

some sort of solutions na din...

1. create a CLASS name "Point2D" that carries an attribute of X and Y


next step...

2. create another class that make a line, thus, you will be using your class Point2D.... simple right? a line has two points... which is head or tail, or first and last.

thus you can have L1 = P1(x,y) and P2(x,y)

what you can create new method that calculates the midpoint of the line...
thus you can access easily like L1.GetMidPoint(), which outputs another object of Point2D.

and so...on... up to getting the center point of the polygon, or center of gravity of an object, up to static stability of a vessel

I hope you understand what I mean...

[Maikeru]

I recommend you to read this book:
"Practices of an Agile Developer" by Venkat Subramaniam and Andy Hunt. This book tells us of the good and bad practices of a developer/programmer, especially if you are in a team programming.
You can get a ebooks from the internet. Just search it if you'd like (i dunno if it's ok to post a link where to download it).

[ta3]

Sakto ang g sulti ni javapenguin in the long run mka ing-ana ka. Well fresh grad mn ka first imong ma buhat kay solution sa problem basta ma solbad ang problema kay ok na. As the time passes sa dinugay nimo og code maka ingon ka nga mas maayo e optimize, reuse, scalable..etc ang code in short maka develop ka og mga techniques in solving a problem efficiently. It's a step by step process in solving a problem even the elite programmers out there still searching for the best solution in solving a problem.

just my 2 cents.

[Badekdek]

Optimization OT, im kinda confused. Does the company pays per line of codes or the hours spent doing the prog / proj? (I'm an undergrad reading this thread. Hoping i make sense here.) So if it is the former, the 'newbie' may tend to do some unnecessary stuff in the coding... Please enlighten me.

[ingkiang]

I recommend you to read this book:
"Practices of an Agile Developer" by Venkat Subramaniam and Andy Hunt. This book tells us of the good and bad practices of a developer/programmer, especially if you are in a team programming.
You can get a ebooks from the internet. Just search it if you'd like (i dunno if it's ok to post a link where to download it).

can you pm me d link where i can download the book?

[dodie]

unsa man jud ang true? ok ra ba na bisag unsa na pama-agi as ling as mahuman ang project or sondun jud ang standards?

salamat

fresh grad pako wala pay experience....

I recommend to discover the current system. Do you know how to DEBUG any system? If you practise DEBUGGING, it means you are tracing the entire system. If you practise it, you can blend to any programming language.

There's not book about it, just self-study.

[miguelboom]

Bitaw bai, self-study gyuy maayo. If naa man kay failures nga mabuhat then kahibawo naka next time you perform sa imu job kung unsay angay og unsay dili. Pero ang pag-take pud sa risk ang worst, pero antusa lng gud. Wa may ma-pusoy sa pagsuway ba.