A Boxing Lesson

[Bongoton]

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Ako ning nabasahan sa Maxboxing.. Mao gyud ni dapat hinumduman sa mga boxing fans ug sa uban pa diha nga "experts". hehehe

Source: Dougie’s MASSIVE Monday Mail Bag

"VIC"-TORIOUS

I'm 0 for 2 now. I thought Pavlik would beat B-Hop and Pavlik got schooled. I picked Mijares to beat Darchinyan and once again I was wrong. I don't think Mijares ever recovered from that knockdown in the first round. Darchinyan talked the talk and backed it up in the ring. Do you think Darchinyan and Donaire will fight again? – Jay, New Jersey

If Darchinyan has his way he and Donaire will do it again at 115 pounds, and I would love to see that rematch take place sometime next year.

As for predictions in recent big bouts, hey, join the club. This is why they fight the fights. It’s not like I counted out Hopkins and Darchinyan going into their high-profile bouts, I respect both warriors, but it made common sense that the younger man would outwork the old warhorse and that the perceived better boxer would defuse the bomber. However, sometimes boxing isn’t “a young man’s sport” and sometimes the relentless puncher catches the slick boxer.

If everything played out the way we thought it would, this sport wouldn’t be have as fun to follow, now would it? That’s how I look at it.

Darchinyan’s victory should remind both hardcore fans and the boxing press to avoid doing making two common mistakes:

1)Writing a fighter off after he suffers a devastating loss, and

2)Giving talented boxers a pass from fighting worthy challengers just because we can’t envision them losing.

I give a lot of kudos to Mijares for facing Darchinyan, because he didn’t have to. Most observers didn’t think Darchinyan had a chance in hell of beating him, so many would have given him a pass if the Australia-based Armenian’s challenge was rejected by Mijares the way Roy Jones Jr. dismissed so many badasses in the 160-, 168- and 175-pound divisions during his athletic prime, and the way Floyd Mayweather pooh-poohed proposed matches Joel Casamayor at 130 (and 140 pounds), Stevie Johnston at 135, and with Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto at 147 pounds.

Too many folks said “Well, he would have beat him had they fought” when guys like Gerald McClellan (at 160), Nigel Benn or Chris Eubank (at 16, and Dariusz Michalczewski (at 175) were brought up as opponents for Jones Jr. But the truth is we don’t know what will happen until those two fighters step into the ring. Even when we are dealing with extremely skilled and talented boxers, we don’t know how they will react to bone-breaking power punches, awkward/unorthodox styles or immense physical strength and pressure until we actually see them deal with it.

[ryan22]

totally agree with this!
read this article from maxboxing a couple of days ago...
first thing that popped in my head was PBF...

[Bongoton]

this could also be a lesson for those who are giving Pacquiao no chance of beating the Golden Boy. Common sense led people to say that Pavlik would KO Hopkins and Mijares would completely outbox Darchinyan, and its the same thing that led experts to say that the naturally bigger guy in dela Hoya would be too much for Manny. We'll see coz it might be true, or might be the other way around.. This is why they fight the fights!

[flanker]

this could also be a lesson for those who are giving Pacquiao no chance of beating the Golden Boy. Common sense led people to say that Pavlik would KO Hopkins and Mijares would completely outbox Darchinyan, and its the same thing that led experts to say that the naturally bigger guy in dela Hoya would be too much for Manny. We'll see coz it might be true, or might be the other way around.. This is why they fight the fights!

Saman wanna bet?

Oscar-Packy is totally different from Pavlik-Bhops & Mijares-Darchi..

its a MAN vs BOY - Give you an example - Margarito vs Cotto.

adto man ka lacion dba? kita kits lang ta didto.. lolz

[Bongoton]

Saman wanna bet?

Oscar-Packy is totally different from Pavlik-Bhops & Mijares-Darchi..

its a MAN vs BOY - Give you an example - Margarito vs Cotto.

adto man ka lacion dba? kita kits lang ta didto.. lolz

nyahahaha.. di man ko mosugal bai flanker.. wa na sa akong dugo.. pasensya na.. morag igo na nako isugal ang akong pagbati.. bwahahahaha

yep, ad2 ko lacion..kuyog mi rainmaker.. kita ra ta didto, may unta maka kuha napod tag t-shirt.. hehehe
oi! salamat diay in advance sa pag donate ug LECHON !!! Payter kaau !! hehehe

I'm not saying this is a sure win for Manny because its a long shot. All I'm saying he stands a chance, and I'm hoping he will win. But logic tells us Manny will lose this fight, and its very likely to happen. No arguments there.
Bottomline is, there is no sure win in boxing. Until the fight is over, diha pa ta kahibaw.

By the way, Margarito was an 8-5 underdog in the Cotto fight. And I disagree that there was a boy in that match up. Cotto is in his physical prime. Although he was the smaller man, he was the favorite (unlike Pacquiao), and logic tells us that Cotto's talent and overall boxing skills will beat the bigger but one dimensional, plodding banger. But boxing isn't all about logic. There are x-factors. And I was rooting for Margarito for that fight, when he defied boxing logic and proved to the boxing world that the sport I love is just full of surprises. It ain't over til its over.. and that's why I will never say that its a sure win for either fighter.

[flanker]

By the way, Margarito was an 8-5 underdog in the Cotto fight. And I disagree that there was a boy in that match up. Cotto is in his physical prime. Although he was the smaller man, he was the favorite (unlike Pacquiao), and logic tells us that Cotto's talent and overall boxing skills will beat the bigger but one dimensional, plodding banger. But boxing isn't all about logic. There are x-factors. And I was rooting for Margarito for that fight, when he defied boxing logic and proved to the boxing world that the sport I love is just full of surprises. It ain't over til its over.. and that's why I will never say that its a sure win for either fighter.

yup underdog c Margarito.. same sad nga underdog sad cya against Cintron.

What i really mean against Man vs Boy is the size difference..

They are saying that Pac is ok since his fighting weight is around 146-148 lbs...

But he is not used to fight bigger opponents like Dela Hoya (who can weight around 160 lbs during the fight.), not just the size but Oscar has power with decent speed....

The question is... can he take Dela Hoya's power shots? one left hook "BaaMM" its over..

Some says.. Steve Forbes was not even stopped... well Forbes has different style, he is a slick defensive fighter... While Packy is a face-first-defence-brawler....

Oscar by TKO inside 6... unless Packy will ride his bicycle.. then he will survive for 12 rounds.. lolz..


cge kita kits lang ta didto..

[ed168III]

lahi ra kaau c oscar, naa ni history bataa, actualy iyang last previous fights, klaro kaau ipa abot nyag 12 rounds, at least makatilaw na c pacman ug 1 hit 1 knockdown punch

[Bongoton]

@ Flanker: Point well taken bai..

kana si Maria nimo ba, payter kaau na dah.. hehehe

[Bongoton]

by the way.. check out this link

Will Oscar De La Hoya Really Be Bigger Than Manny Pacquiao on December 6? - Boxing FanHouse

Will Oscar De La Hoya Really Be Bigger Than Manny Pacquiao on December 6?

Michael David SmithPosted Nov 10th 2008 3:30PM by Michael David Smith (author feed)
Filed under: Golden Boy Promotions
When I spoke today to Freddie Roach, the trainer for Manny Pacquiao, he told me he isn't worried about the size advantage that Oscar De La Hoya will have when they fight on December 6.

But what if it turns out that De La Hoya doesn't have any size advantage at all?

After talking to Roach -- who told me Pacquiao weighs 151 pounds right now -- I talked to De La Hoya's trainer, Nacho Beristain, and he told me something stunning: As De La Hoya has trained for this fight, his weight dipped all the way down to 146 pounds.

Beristain said he was concerned by that, and that once they got more carbs and protein into his system, De La Hoya got back up to 150. But that's still a pound less than Pacquiao. So much for De La Hoya having a size advantage.

Both fighters will weigh in at 147 pounds on December 5, and once they rehydrate for Saturday night's fight, I think De La Hoya will have a slight weight advantage, as well as, obviously, a height and reach advantage of a few inches. But overall, I have to agree with Roach: De La Hoya's size advantage isn't all it's cracked up to be.