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    Default Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?


    Poro Cave Discovery

    Poro is a controversial land of Camotes Islands.

    The people migration existed even before the Spaniards settlement in the Islands. There's a connection to the rest of the world.

    The Chinese dynasty, during the time of Song, Tong and Ming, the Arabs, business traders and surrounded regions near by, they brought up the evidenced, artifacts collection in this Island.

    "No doubted that the pro-active Camotes people connection to the world has comprehension."

    The digging of the artifacts of the collection of bones, wares were proven to be the melting path in Asia million years ago. If you compared the three towns, Poro is truly a unique Island. The caves of Tudela and Poro were brought up the past as early as the 10th century, 12th century and 15th century AD.

    The neighbouring regions migrated to settle here, formed the mixture of the dialect in Poro compared to the three towns of Camotes Islands. Foremost the natives of Camotes Islands started from these two suburbs, Busay (east) and Mactan (south).

    The discovery of Camotes started even before the arrival of the Spaniards. The two villages, from the South (Busay) and West (Mactang), compromised to walk before the sunrise.

    “Whenever they will meet, they will build, the first town of Poro.”

    Poro town was built on Dec. 17, 1701.

    Right on the spot – the first town had created by the Porohanons. They're built a wooden church, the Municipal Hall, The Gym. But the church was re-built by the Augustinian friars in 1849.

    Magellan killed by Rajah Lapulapu

    The discovery of Mactan Esperanza, they found some antiques, plates, spades and relix Map; earthenware and artifacts, long bones were found in Boho, Caves and Mactan Esperanza, very unusual to Asian heights. Based on the intense of diggings around the Islands. It’s started to pick up those pieces about Camotes Islands. It was televised and brought to Manila Museum.

    Other discovery

    The Muslims battled with the natives in Poro and the spread out of religion around Asia even before the Spanish time.

    According to Ronald Carcellar. Professor Bailin of UP, from Aerchologist department, said: If you generalized, Camotes was a pre-historic Island like Hongkong million years ago.” Ronald Carcellar explained; “from Camotes to Cebu City (mainland) takes 4 hours by ships, and Pigafetta (Magellan Priest) exactly described in the book, they started at 12 am and they had arrived nearly 4 am.

    Magellan erected a cross along Magallanes Street, by the sea from Magallanes Street to Lapulapu City, it’s not even an hour to travel?” They spread out religion around Asia, the Arabs, Chinese Dynasty and the neighbouring area in the Philippines. Magellan cruised around the world in 1500. Their second stop was Cebu, after Limasawa Island, but when Lapulapu fought Magellan. He was killed in the Philippines.

    During the Battle of Magellan and Lapulapu

    Low tide in Mactan” Poro abundance of soil, water, the sand much wider to walk, the beaches are awesome. Ronald Carcellar concluded; “when the 1,500 male soldiers arrived from the ship called “Victoria Galleon”, walking the sand before reaching the soil, to visualize also that, they have wives and children, how can they survive in Mactan Island or Opon Island?”

    The catholic faith follows ever since the Spaniard settlement catholic introduced. It’s intensely debate, it’s difficult to confine, remained unsolved, the treasures in this Island, the involvement of the past finding artifacts, from the Arabs, Chinese dynasty existed even before the Spaniard settlement, evidence’s proven. The beauty of this Island shone to the world million years ago!

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    Mactan or Mactang?

    According to a columnist friend of mine, historians are still debating whether Ferdinand Magellan landed in Mactan Island or Sito Mactang in Poro, Camotes Island. He says if Lapu-Lapu was a "Porohanon" it might have well been Mactang Island.

    Mactang Island is nearer from Limasawa than Mactan, my friend adds. And according to records, Mactan Island was formerly known as Opon Island, further indicating the Mactang Island could've been the site for the famous battle. Further reading on the subject also tells me that there were no recorded excavations done in Mactan, while diggings done in the 70s yielded daggers, shields, swords, skull pierced with an arrowhead, and other artifacts, in fact they say that the evidence is displayed in the municipal hall.

    If it was Mactang, then when did the transformation of Mactang to Mactan happen? or did it really happen in Mactan? or is it Mactang?


    posted by Benjie Ordonez

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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    sa ako lang bai noh sa camotes nagsugod ang "battle of mactan" lets say battle of mactang. evidence shows that almost of the artifacts found that tells the story of cebu comes from camotes. diba bag-ohay lang nga giusab ang pangan sa opon to mactan? my grandparents are from camotes "san francisco" although its to far from poro, but i saw various antiques in my grandparents house. knife that has a 17th century carving with spanish language inprint at the neck of the blade. the above things was lost when robbers came to my grandparents house. i'm very thankful that they didnt kill my lolo and lola.

    the antiques, the knife was inherited by my grandparents from my great grandparents.

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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    Im glad naka-basa na jud ko ug article regarding ani..

    bata pa ko kadungog na ko ani nga storyaha..hehe

    Ang akong mga nahibaw-an sa storya (before I've read the article):

    -skeletons were found in the area and are said to be from the Spaniards. kay kung sa natives pa to, dli unta sya ingon ato ka tag-as nga skeletons.

    -Spanish artifacts were found in the area. including battle gears and weapons.

    -ang travel time kuno nilang Magellan from Cebu City kay pwerte ra ka-dugay kung sa Mactan ra cla nihunong.

    -and naa daw certain place sa Camotes nga tigawag ug Mactang..

    Ug kining tanan nga mga discoveries were never present in Mactan Island jud kuno.. no single Spanish artifact or skeleton was found in Mactan Island..

    Wala lang jud kunoy mo-dare ug usab sa nakasulat sa history books kay it will cost millions daw..

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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    This is such a big "slap-in-the-face" to the century-old history of the Philippines. If this is true, then all this time we learned nothing but histories that are unreal. And adding insult to injury, as long as this so-called historical fact existed in the Philippine history, revising it would be as much difficult.

    How do we know with certainty that all other remnants of Philippine history are true ?! This controversy will eventually lead to cynicism.

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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    History as it is...but if ang history kulang ug facts & evidences like the artifacts that were dug-up in Mactang Camotes, kulang pa information. that's why we have archeologist to study prehistoric people and their culture to reveal the history. We're aiming to change the history but it's only an FYI to all about the real battle of Mactan.

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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    " We're aiming to change the history but it's only an FYI to all about the real battle of Mactan."



    We're not aiming to change the history but it's only an FYI to all about the real battle of Mactan.


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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    Quote Originally Posted by porocamotes
    " We're aiming to change the history but it's only an FYI to all about the real battle of Mactan."



    We're not aiming to change the history but it's only an FYI to all about the real battle of Mactan.

    ...confusing and conflicting statements! "we're aiming...we're not aiming.."


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    Lots of corrections have to be made. That it was a "Battle of Camotes" is credible, sa travel time lang da-an.

    Also the use of "Sugbo" which is a Tagalog invention. I am careful to call myself "Sebuanhon" instead of "Sugboanon" because "Sugbo" is derogatory.

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    started at camotes then end at lapulapu!

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    Default Re: Where did the Battle of Mactan happened? In Camotes or in Lapu-lapu?

    pardon me sirs but i have to disagree,there was no such battle that took place either in mactan or mactang.

    ganito po iyon,

    1.ang pumatay kay magellan ay isang higanteng lapu-lapu,locally known as "kugtong".

    a.nung unang panahon sometime in 1521,magellans fleet arrived in the phils.wala pang pier noon kaya kailangan nila sumakay sa isang mas maliit na bangka upang makalapit sa baybayin ng mactan.

    b.sa kagustuhan ni magellan na sya ang unang makatapak sa lupang pinas,tumalon sya sa bangka kahit na hanggang leeg pa ang lalim ng tubig.nagkataon naman na may "kugtong sa lugar na binabaan ni magellan,ito po ay nagulat kaya sinagpang sya ng "kugtong"sa pag aakala na ito ay pagkain.

    c.during that era,our seas were so abundant then kaya hindi naka-pag tataka na magkaroon ng "kugtong".

    2.nagkagulo ang mga kastila sa pagkamatay ni magellan,ito marahil ang dahilan kaya nagkahiwa-hiwalay sila kung kay may ibang napadpad sa ibat-ibang bahagi ng kabisayaan.

    3.magellan "the first circumnavigator of the world."

    a.nang iuwi ng mga kastila sa espanya ang bangkay ni magellan kinilala ni king phillip ang kanyang kadakilaan kaya at sya ay itinanghal na isang bayani sa espanya kahit na sya ay isang "portugese".

    b.hindi daw nababagay sa isang bayani ang kamatayang sinapit ni magellan kaya ipinag-utos ni king phillip na bumalik sa pinas sila antonio pigafetta na official chronicler ng paglalakbay ni magellan.

    ang utos ng hari: ipamalita ninyo sa mga mang-mang na pinoy na mayroon silang isang chieftain na matapang na pumatay sa ating bayani.ang pangalan ng chieftain ay si lapu-lapu.

    c.talagang mang-mang o walang pinag-aralan ang pinoy ng mga panahong iyon,kaya tayo ay madaling napaniwala na ang kathang isip na ito ay totoo.

    d.matatandaan natin na tayo ay sinakop ng mga kastila sa loob ng mahabang panahon,kung kaya ang kwento ng kabayanihan ni lapu-lapu ay nagpalipat-lipat sa maraming henerasyon.

    4.kung tunay na may lapu-lapung nag exist,bakit wala ni isang proof of existence nya ang nakatala?bagkus ay puro estatwa lamang.

    5.hindi natin alam ang eksaktong kinatirikan ng kanyang bahay o maging ang kanyang itak at salakab ay walang naka-aalam kung saan napunta.

    6.higit sa lahat wala man lang yata itong kamag-anak na magpapa-totoo sa kanyang existence,mas maraming naunang mga tao sa kany na may proof of existence.nandun po sa roma ang katunayan.

    ito po ang salaysay ng isang matandang taga cebu na aking kapitbahay dati doon nung ako mamalagi sa basak,mandaue sa loob ng apat na taon.

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