Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

[ReikoChan]

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It's a shitty title, yes. If it's going to be a MoS sequel, better call it Man of Steel: Shadows of the Dark Knight, LOL.
@Blackbeard
Is there supposed to be a link next to your >an idea of how the story is going to be told?

[themoviejunkie]

then you have your shitty title. during an interview at SDCC, the two titles Snyder brought up was Batman vs. Superman or Superman vs. Batman. there's no mention of World's Finest. absolutely none. and now there are reports that it's likely to be Batman vs. Superman, which makes sense financially since Batman is DC's cash cow, so they put his name first even though it's a Man of Steel sequel. it's stupid as hell though, yes.

>an idea of how the story is going to be told

that's what I said. they're going to use it as a reference. and with the title as is, its pretty much a given what comes next. lol it's actually going to be funny seeing Batman beat Superman on screen now that I think about it.

and the Snyder/Goyer fusion hasn't exactly been great. Man of Steel was underwhelming. I enjoyed it, but when you switch your brain on, it's not a very good Superman movie. it was a fun popcorn movie that would earn a Michael Bay nod of approval, but as a Superman movie, it was bad. Snyder and Goyer's Superman is a broody, maelstrom of destruction instead of being a symbol of hope and inspiration that he's supposed to be.

and Nolan's not steering this ship. this is Snyder's movie. people over value Nolan's executive producer role.

If this is really the case, then three things can possibly happen:

1. Batman as the villain

No, not really the villain. But more like the antagonist of the movie. Though they're on the same side, but the way they were presented was kind of conflicting and opposite - Superman killing Zod to save millions of people while Batman violating everyone's civil liberties just to catch The Joker. And just imagine the marketing campaign for this movie. It'd be like, "Whose side are you on?" It would really tear friendships apart haha.

2. Batman as the mentor

Batman has more knowledge about the flaws and vulnerabilities of mankind that could further help Supes in understanding his responsibilities as a beacon of hope and inspiration as both of them try to take on a much bigger threat to the world. Last I checked, casting for Lex Luthor is in the air and Snyder hints for his potential appearance in the sequel.

3. Batman as his rival

With the Capped Crusader being heralded as the World's Greatest Detective, he is always one or two steps ahead of Superman. And this made Supes realize that he cant do it all alone, that two heads are better than one. This could then be a possible foundation to a Justice League movie.

[ReikoChan]

If this is really the case, then three things can possibly happen:

1. Batman as the villain

No, not really the villain. But more like the antagonist of the movie. Though they're on the same side, but the way they were presented was kind of conflicting and opposite - Superman killing Zod to save millions of people while Batman violating everyone's civil liberties just to catch The Joker. And just imagine the marketing campaign for this movie. It'd be like, "Whose side are you on?" It would really tear friendships apart haha.

2. Batman as the mentor

Batman has more knowledge about the flaws and vulnerabilities of mankind that could further help Supes in understanding his responsibilities as a beacon of hope and inspiration as both of them try to take on a much bigger threat to the world. Last I checked, casting for Lex Luthor is in the air and Snyder hints for his potential appearance in the sequel.

3. Batman as his rival

With the Capped Crusader being heralded as the World's Greatest Detective, he is always one or two steps ahead of Superman. And this made Supes realize that he cant do it all alone, that two heads are better than one. This could then be a possible foundation to a Justice League movie.

If any of those were the case, then the "versus" title for the film would be very misleading. The writers should come up with a better plot than one superhero beating the other. If it cannot be helped, they shouldn't be doing it the entire film. They must team up at one point, fight a common enemy (Lex), and end up as allies to form the foundations for JLA.

[themoviejunkie]

If any of those were the case, then the "versus" title for the film would be very misleading. The writers should come up with a better plot than one superhero beating the other. If it cannot be helped, they shouldn't be doing it the entire film. They must team up at one point, fight a common enemy (Lex), and end up as allies to form the foundations for JLA.

The first option would be more fitting, I guess, if the sequel will really make a villain of Supes or Batman. But Im really not sold at this idea at all. I think the first part's gonna show a little rift between the two. But later on, with the presence of a much bigger villain, they're gonna put their differences aside and join forces in defeating the said villain. Lex Luthor, perhaps?

[ReikoChan]

The first option would be more fitting, I guess, if the sequel will really make a villain of Supes or Batman. But Im really not sold at this idea at all. I think the first part's gonna show a little rift between the two. But later on, with the presence of a much bigger villain, they're gonna put their differences aside and join forces in defeating the said villain. Lex Luthor, perhaps?

Luthor most probably.

Here's a fan-prediction from IGN that makes sense:

"Superman continues to prove himself a hero. Batman distrustful having watched Metropolis destroyed. Needs to find a way to eliminate Superman in case he ever goes rogue. Uses detective skills and research of wrecked Kryptonian terraformer to discover kryptonite. Hunts Superman out to test his theory. Fight ensues. Kryptonite works. Mutual respect earned during and after fight. World's Finest team up to take on mutual threat in film's climatic battle.

Batman, in numerous comics (Dark Knight Returns and Hush spring to mind) has fought hand to hand with Superman. In the MoS universe Kal-El is shown vomiting blood and passing out when exposed to a purely Kryptonian atmosphere and materials. It's not called Kryptonite directly but it has a similar effect. Why couldn't Batman research what causes said effect and try to replicate? Kryptonite doesn't have to be a glowing green rock...

The key to the next film is how Batman will take on Superman. The only way for him to do that is to level the playing field somehow. Kryptonian tech, atmosphere, materials is probably the only way he can do it. Chances are they will name whatever Batman discovers to be Kryptonite."

[themoviejunkie]

Batman distrustful having watched Metropolis destroyed. Needs to find a way to eliminate Superman in case he ever goes rogue.

There has to be a much deeper reason other than the destruction of Metropolis for Batman to try and stop Kal-El. I mean, he has to understand the collateral damage made after Superman's fight with General Zod. If Clark hadnt done what he did, Metropolis and the rest of the world would be in a much worse state. Right?

[Blackbeard]

It's a shitty title, yes. If it's going to be a MoS sequel, better call it Man of Steel: Shadows of the Dark Knight, LOL.
@Blackbeard
Is there supposed to be a link next to your >an idea of how the story is going to be told?

no lol. it's a lazy way of quoting post.

If this is really the case, then three things can possibly happen:

1. Batman as the villain

No, not really the villain. But more like the antagonist of the movie. Though they're on the same side, but the way they were presented was kind of conflicting and opposite - Superman killing Zod to save millions of people while Batman violating everyone's civil liberties just to catch The Joker. And just imagine the marketing campaign for this movie. It'd be like, "Whose side are you on?" It would really tear friendships apart haha.

2. Batman as the mentor

Batman has more knowledge about the flaws and vulnerabilities of mankind that could further help Supes in understanding his responsibilities as a beacon of hope and inspiration as both of them try to take on a much bigger threat to the world. Last I checked, casting for Lex Luthor is in the air and Snyder hints for his potential appearance in the sequel.

3. Batman as his rival

With the Capped Crusader being heralded as the World's Greatest Detective, he is always one or two steps ahead of Superman. And this made Supes realize that he cant do it all alone, that two heads are better than one. This could then be a possible foundation to a Justice League movie.

number two is a no. NO. Superman doesnt need a mentor, and Batman only mentors young, virile boys.

one and three are 50-50. they realize there's a bigger threat, and agree to work together, but expect the 3/4 of the movie to be Batman and Superman literally trying to take each other out, with Batman mostly winning these encounters to show just how badass he is. also pissing contest between Bruce and Clark. Bruce may even try to steal Lois away from Clark, and Clark throws Bruce's car to the moon in disgust... with Alfred still in it.

anyway, the title really says it all. VS. that means a fight. they're not going with World's Finest, or Superman/Batman. it's Batman vs. Superman lol. this is as casual as it gets.

edit:
>"Superman continues to prove himself a hero. Batman distrustful having watched Metropolis destroyed. Needs to find a way to eliminate Superman in case he ever goes rogue.

fan prediction might be right on the money, but it's not stupid enough to qualify for Goyer writing tier.

[ben1000]

question is 1. What superman cant do while Batman can?
2. What batman cant do while superman can?
3. What both can do at the same time while fighting foes?

both have powers (LOL) (that goes to batman).

[ReikoChan]

Bruce may even try to steal Lois away from Clark, and Clark throws Bruce's car to the moon in disgust... with Alfred still in it.

I LOL'd. It feels like something that would come from a Marvel movie.

[themoviejunkie]

Guess we'll just have to wait for further updates on what the real score is for DC's next superhero movie.