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  1. #911

    Quote Originally Posted by godwhacker View Post
    PJ or any Cebuano politician who questions the FLI deal with the City government "may" don't have the moral right. But if we go by the word the legal right, YES they do have as taxpayers. Mao nay giingon nga sa madutlan lang kung makakita ka ug buslot. Now it seems that PJ has inflicted some heavy blows on City Hall and the bun-ogs are starting to appear. Like you, the silent majority of the Cebuanos are starting to realize about a possible wrong doing on this deal. And like me who pays tax to the city government I would say PJ's move though tainted with politics, is laudable.

    I don't care ug magpatay na sila diha basta di lang ko ma alkanse sa buhis nga akong gibayad para tabang ug bayad sa loan anang SRP. Unya kay diay ang deal ana anomalous and disadvantageous to the city and the taxpayers. Sus! pagka pait paminawon.
    same sentiment here my friend...that's actually my whole point.

  2. #912
    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    same sentiment here my friend...that's actually my whole point.
    that is always the ideal point, i am just being realistic.

    if PJ really found a lega loophole on this deal then he should bring it to the proper venue that can really resolve HIS issue. nganong wala man? kay nagpalaban man sa iyang mga ka-inom sa kongreso, mao na'y klarong storya. in short, panglawgaw ra gyud. wa man gyud na'y na resolve ang congress ba, sa tinuoray lang.

    unsaon pagka-resolve, puro gud politiko, puro na'ay interest, puro hangol...

    as a supposedly topnotch lawyer, PJ knows that but this is the only arena he thinks he has a chance. by bringing the SRP-FLI deal to congress he is only making the project unstable and more vulnerable to bigger and more professional, greedy thieves.

    but i guess nangibabaw gyud ang pagka-politiko ni PJ kaysa iyang pagka-abugado that means greed over ideals and greater good. this is one of those things when wisdom is clouded by greed.
    Last edited by LytSlpr; 04-29-2009 at 08:52 AM.

  3. #913
    Quote Originally Posted by KhogMoh View Post
    Bros, if everything is above board as told by the Cebu City government and Tomas O, then there is no need to worry.

    Why all the fuss, when a congressman is just asking questions? At least mahibaw gyud ta kung unsa gyud ang tinuod.

    I trust the lawyer-councilmen of the City of Cebu that they have given the City and its constituents the best deal. I hope they will not back down on this congressional inquiry.

    If they are proven wrong, I hope Tomas and his councilors will RESIGN. If Pablo John is wrong then I hope he too will resign.

    ....
    Ok ko ani mo resign kung proven wrong...

    Kung ang City Hall official mo regsign then let Winston Garcia run as Mayor in 2010.... Garcia na tanan... Mo lambo na gyud maayo ang Cebu......

  4. #914
    Quote Originally Posted by yacky2006 View Post
    Ok ko ani mo resign kung proven wrong...

    Kung ang City Hall official mo regsign then let Winston Garcia run as Mayor in 2010.... Garcia na tanan... Mo lambo na gyud maayo ang Cebu......

    you are being sarcastic, aren't you? otherwise, you can't be serious and i seriously hope you don't mean that.

  5. #915
    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    you are being sarcastic, aren't you? otherwise, you can't be serious and i seriously hope you don't mean that.
    Mao man ila gusto Bro. Dili man sila mo focus sa Province lang mo enter man gyud sila Cebu City nga development. Naa man unta uban Cities ang Province mao unta ilang hilabtan.

    Gusto gyud tingali sa mga Garcia nga naa sad sila kaliwat sa Cebu City mo lingkod. Why not in Mandaue, Lapu2x, Danao, Toledo or Talisay man.... Why Cebu City man gyud? Tungod kay modawat lang clag limyo igo nalang cla mo tiwas ug develop sa SRP dayon....

  6. #916
    mao man gyud na ilang ultimate objective ba, pa as-if lang na sila.

  7. #917
    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    that is always the ideal point, i am just being realistic.
    what i said or agreed upon is not even close to ideal...that's actually being realistic...don't get confused between being biased and being realistic. both are entirely different.

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    mao man gyud na ilang ultimate objective ba, pa as-if lang na sila.
    i think wala cla ga as-if wui...they are not denying there is political color involved. and it's even reported that Winston might run as mayor next elections.

    besides, what's wrong with the Garcias running for mayor?...like some sort of creating a political dynasty perhaps? well, cla rba ang gahimo ani? how bout the Duranos? how bout the Martinezes?..it could be wrong for u perhaps coz of ur bias against the Garcias.

    if we take history, once upon a time our governor was an Osmena at the same the Cebu City mayor was an Osmena too...and not only that, there were also Osmena lawmakers too. were u against that scenario too?

    Quote Originally Posted by yacky2006 View Post
    Gusto gyud tingali sa mga Garcia nga naa sad sila kaliwat sa Cebu City mo lingkod.
    why not?
    Last edited by giddyboy; 04-29-2009 at 11:28 AM.

  8. #918
    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    what i said or agreed upon is not even close to ideal...that's actually being realistic...don't get confused between being biased and being realistic. both are entirely different.
    legal is not necessarily realistic. not all that is "legal" (specially when politics is involved) will be the outcome.

    that is being realistic and not textbook analysis.

  9. #919
    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    legal is not necessarily realistic.
    op kors legal is not always realistic but we cannot deny that talking legal has an element of being realistic. ever heard of the term "legal realism"?

    now in contrast, being biased is not in any way being realistic...and u cannot deny that fact bsan unsaon pa nimo ug tambling tambling. LOLs
    Last edited by giddyboy; 04-29-2009 at 11:30 AM.

  10. #920
    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    op kors legal is not always realistic but we cannot deny that there is an element of being realistic.

    unfortunately, being biased is not in any way being realistic...and u cannot deny that fact bsan unsaon pa nimo ug tambling tambling. LOLs
    biased? because i cannot refute your so called evidences? as i've said this is not a court, biased propaganda may work but Istoryans are more intelligent than that they know that are rumors and what is the truth.

    you may heard this a thousand times but in the Philippines, if you are in power you are the law. who would dare question those documents? si leo? si saavedra? dali ra kaayo na sila i-intimidate or worst iligpit. the problem sa philippines is people particularly the business sector, mohilom na lang basta di lang sila directly affected. mao bitaw ingon ana ng pilipinas kay ang common tao di mag unite unya mag hilom na lang.

    i could have a 1M project cost spend 500K and give a documentation for 1M, all legal. kung mag base ta sa imong textbook law sir, tanan project sa gobyerno even national projects WALAY TIKAS kay LEGAL GUD, RIGHT?! So dili ma-queston sa DBM, COA, Sandiganbayan, ombudsman, etc. The government is one big syndicate involved in racketeering and the congress is one big country club and that is as realistic as it gets.

    as the saying goes, "it's not what you know but what you can prove." fortunately this Istorya.Net and not a court of law. so what people know, in this venue HAS BEARING. get the point?

    keep convincing yourself lagi...
    Last edited by LytSlpr; 04-29-2009 at 11:56 AM.

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