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    Quote Originally Posted by isturyaje View Post
    +1 ko ani.. up

    @TS. Man is not a body, a spirit and a soul, but rather, he is A LIVING SOUL and as such is subject to death.
    mamatay diay na ang soul? naa diay living ug dead soul? pls explain

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    hizuka007 3:1
    "Though shall not kompyans"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakagawasan View Post
    TS kung naa kay mga pangutana sa imong pagtuo ang Istorya.Net dili makatubag ana kay naa daghan diri magpahighest2x(as if daghan nahibaloan nya convincing kaayo kay magquote2x og mga verses). Ang mas maayo pa, modoul ka sa leader sa inyong tinouhan, kay siguro ko makahatag gyud siya og tubag sa imong mga pangutana.

    Pwede ra man sad na motiwalag ka sa imong religion kung sa imong tan-aw naay sayop na interpretasyon sa pagtuo sa mga gitudlo ni Kristo ug mopadayon ka sa imong pagtuo sa imong nasabtan na tinoud sa iyang mga gitudlo. Mao man gani naa daghan, sekta or sanga ang Kristiyanismo tungod sa managlahi na pagtuo o interpretasyon sa mga gitudlo ni Kristo. Sa kadaghan sa mga uban religion na nagtuo ni Kristo naa man siguro bisan usa ni-fit sa imong pagtuo. Wala lang ko marecommend nimo kay dili ko Kristyano.

    Basta mao lang ni itanom sa imong alimpatakan, walay si bisan kinsa makababag nato sa atoa gituohan. Dautan man na sa ilaha, so be it. At least you are doing what you think is right!
    i am gathering more info bro, then i will decide, any inputs of istoryans, would be of great help for my comparison, i could go to religious leaders also but i think bias na ilang explanation, they are on one side, but i'll still consider it

    kaning gi explain with bible verse nga dili God si Jesus, if tinood man gani ni, then it is similar sa gitudlo sa Jews ug Islam, and i think other religions pud

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    naa ra akong tubag:

    ang pasabot ana, you need your body. so kung mamatay na, wala nai body, di na ka ka attain ana. but naa man reincarnation, the spirit have the chance again, if mamatay na pud unya wa pa naka attain, balik balik na pud hangtud nga maka attain na, pero ang main goal is God, and through the attainment of being a Christ is the only way
    bro, so basically you are incorporating buddhism and Christianity? and perhaps other religious ideas of salvation pud..
    that basically shows you are a seeker bro..
    i've also read some of your replies regarding not consulting Christian religious leaders(priest,pastor..)
    'cause you think bias ra ilang itubag sa imu...don't you think biased pud ka for thinking that way?
    i understand bai nganu nangita ka ug other teachings,'cause there are things nga wa nimu masabtan sa Christian nga teaching or at least the Christian teaching that we know..why not try to invest your time and searching within the walls of Christianity lang usa TS, 'cause ani man gud na...i hope you won't take this negatively ha...
    perhaps the reason why you cannot accept Jesus to be God because of a lot factors...
    maybe poor teachings nga nakuha nimu sa Christian community...
    ,aybe wala pa ka naka sugat ug tao nga nakapasabut nimu ug tarong...
    and as a result you ventured to other teachings...and it turned out nga nakasabut ka ngadto...but THAT somehow bai
    does not PROVE nga mao nay TRUTH just because the explanation was perfectly laid over...
    ask lang ko TS,
    have you tried all possible ways to understand why Christians consider Jesus to be God?
    by what you said the reason why you seek because it is important to you...
    all sort of explanations why Christians believed that Jesus is God and is the only Christ..
    are found on the internet...you'll just to try looking for them if you're mind is really open about these things?
    'cause you cannotanswer your questions if you already have pre-concieved ideas or biases within you...
    most of all, i know you've already read the bible...but try reading it...without the things you've learned...
    without your current interpretations...like as if you're reading it the first time...
    if you're really up to it....

    another question TS,do you think the apostle Paul was able to attain "chirsthood"?

    and you said earlier nga you have found an easier way to be saved diba?
    which is easier bai, ikaw maningkamut sa imung kaugalingun?kung mapakyas ka,balik sa uno...hangtud makapasar ka and wala pa jud ta kahibaw how many attempts you have to go through..(this is the concpet of reincarnation ha)...plus naa pa jud apan bai, diba we learn from our mistakes?how are we to use our mistakes asa learning tool when we can't even remember our past life?if there's any...
    or....
    ningkamut ka sa imung tanang makaya,kanang maka ingun ka nga mao ra jud to,...then naa motubos nimu ug mu puno kung unsa man gani imung pagkukulang..para mahimu kang angayan?(this is the Christian way of salvation).

    asay mas sayun bai?

    lastly, do you belive God is Love?if so...
    asa sa duha ka example above ang nag display ug akto sa pag higugma?
    Last edited by noy; 09-20-2012 at 04:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henrinator View Post
    Reading all these earlier posts reminds me of the hypocrites and the pharisees, ARGUING, trying to disprove the other, talking about the word of God, squabbling like little children.....

    share lang ko ani nga question ninyu mga brader ug sister:
    If you were sued for being a Christian(granting illegal na), would there be sufficient evidence to convict you??
    I respect your view also bro. Yes there are people who are wearing the cloak of christianity and living like the unbelievers. But only God knows our hearts.

    We are not surprise when that time comes bro, in fact it was prophesied already in the book of revelation about the coming reign of the antichrist and what will be the fate of the christians. I for one is willing to give my life for my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ikaning gi explain with bible verse nga dili God si Jesus, if tinood man gani ni, then it is similar sa gitudlo sa Jews ug Islam, and i think other religions pud
    kung naa man ganiy tan.aw nimu nga bible verse nga nahisuwat sa bible nga you think and meaning kay si Jesus taw ra..
    those are mere interpretations lang bai..unless maka kita jud ta ug verse nga niingun Jesus is not God,He was just an example and we can all be Christ in when we reach a certain maturity in life.

    problem is, even drunkards are qouting bible verses about Jesus turning water into wine...
    about what paul said we should drink wine as it is good for the body...
    as a justification for their drinking habits?
    and some people hated God because of the violence in the old testament
    point is, if we rely so much in our own interpretaiotn plus the interpretation of those who do not believe..
    huge tendency that we could end up really missing the real message that God was trying to convey.
    Last edited by noy; 09-20-2012 at 04:58 PM.

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    makahinumdum man sad kong SD nimo ts.. reincarnate until you become perfect..

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    I think TS is a Pantheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    I respect your view also bro. Yes there are people who are wearing the cloak of christianity and living like the unbelievers. But only God knows our hearts.

    We are not surprise when that time comes bro, in fact it was prophesied already in the book of revelation about the coming reign of the antichrist and what will be the fate of the christians. I for one is willing to give my life for my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ!
    i second the motion bai

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    Quote Originally Posted by vahnhelsing View Post
    makahinumdum man sad kong SD nimo ts.. reincarnate until you become perfect..
    kapuy man nang styla van..hahaha...plus kuhaan pa jud kag partida...wala kay mahinumduman sa imung past life...
    unsaon kaha nimu pag undo ug learn sa imung past mistakes...
    so nig re incarnate, you might end up making the same mistakes all over again..

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