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  1. #521

    Quote Originally Posted by Lbj23 View Post
    I checked on my dog's pcci paper, then nakita nako ni sa SEC. A " I (we) certify that this dog was transferred DIRECTLY TO THE FOLLOWING PERSON(S) ON". but naa nay date naka suwat and it was dated Jan 10 2013. Do this mean nga expire nani siya and dili na namo ma transfer ang dog to our name? i just want to clarify para kung mag pa register mi sa pcci ditsu2 na ang pag process namo. TIA sir's
    pwede pa xa matransfer, with penalties.

  2. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood_Cebu View Post
    pwede pa xa matransfer, with penalties.
    mga pila kaha ang penalties ana bro? para ako mausa ug padala ang kwarta ba and para ditsu2 na ang pag process TIA

  3. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by Lbj23 View Post
    mga pila kaha ang penalties ana bro? para ako mausa ug padala ang kwarta ba and para ditsu2 na ang pag process TIA
    1.23 per day ang penalty. you start counting AFTER 90 days from the date written in SEC A.

  4. #524
    Quote Originally Posted by mypetstation View Post
    1.23 per day ang penalty. you start counting AFTER 90 days from the date written in SEC A.
    Pero there's a chance they also won't charge a penalty fee. Murag barato ra man siguro - one time fee is 250 pesos?

    My first PCCI transfer was extremely complicated. I was helping the owner of the DAM & SIRE to transfer them. 2 years na wala na transfer ang papers and they only charged us one-time transfer fee. Imagine, both dogs! We paid a total of almost 7,000 since it included na membership of 3 people (2 years coz we applied late na sa year), penalty for both dogs, the litter registration of 8 dogs (185 regardless of size) and dog registration 200++ pa to per dog, and transfer registration of 4 dogs kay additional 286/dog something pa to before.

    Tell them lang your situation and they will probably give you concessions if honest mistake lang gyud na wa nimo na pa transfer.

    tell them lang you really didn't have a clue that there are penalty charges. musabot ra na sila - they may even waive it. Call them lang after you send it. If naa kulang sa imong payment, they will contact you. Better jud if you speak with someone from there and just make friends with anyone there.

    There's no expiration sa pag transfer. You can transfer it anytime.

  5. #525
    Quote Originally Posted by Shihpomapoo Dog Hotel View Post
    Pero there's a chance they also won't charge a penalty fee. Murag barato ra man siguro - one time fee is 250 pesos?

    My first PCCI transfer was extremely complicated. I was helping the owner of the DAM & SIRE to transfer them. 2 years na wala na transfer ang papers and they only charged us one-time transfer fee. Imagine, both dogs! We paid a total of almost 7,000 since it included na membership of 3 people (2 years coz we applied late na sa year), penalty for both dogs, the litter registration of 8 dogs (185 regardless of size) and dog registration 200++ pa to per dog, and transfer registration of 4 dogs kay additional 286/dog something pa to before.

    Tell them lang your situation and they will probably give you concessions if honest mistake lang gyud na wa nimo na pa transfer.

    tell them lang you really didn't have a clue that there are penalty charges. musabot ra na sila - they may even waive it. Call them lang after you send it. If naa kulang sa imong payment, they will contact you. Better jud if you speak with someone from there and just make friends with anyone there.

    There's no expiration sa pag transfer. You can transfer it anytime.
    actually, usually this applies when people do the transfer together with the litter registration. i know a lot of people who only think of transfering ownership once they start breeding. thing is, you have to OWN the dam/sire at the time of mating. now if your pups are 2 months old at the time you register, then you must have owned the dam/sire at least 4 months prior, which means you will definitely incur penalties. but if in this case you just do the transfer, then you can easily change the date written there.....that's easier than calling pcci to waive it

  6. #526
    i think wala pa kaabot ug 20days akong penalty after sa 90days nga given.

  7. #527
    mas dako pa imo magasto sa long distance charges than paying the penalties outright. i'd say pay the penalty na lang... or change the date reflected therein (as janice suggested). ayaw na lang ng hangyo2x kay mutaas pa istorya, bayari na lang na.

  8. #528
    mao lageh bro, dili man pd kay mahal kay 1.23php ang penalty per day after the 90 days. kaya ra so far wala paman pd 20 days. adto lang guro ko sa mypetstation this saturday para adto nako i process

  9. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood_Cebu View Post
    mas dako pa imo magasto sa long distance charges than paying the penalties outright. i'd say pay the penalty na lang... or change the date reflected therein (as janice suggested). ayaw na lang ng hangyo2x kay mutaas pa istorya, bayari na lang na.
    The advantage of hangyo is they actually build a relationship with someone from PCCI. I'm not saying na manghangyo para mangaway. They are easy to talk to as long as you are reasonable.

    Also, I don't think you can change the date when its already written on the certificate. If there is one thing I'm very certain of, PCCI won't allow corrections, white ink, etc. The certificate must be clean from erasures or alterations. Once that happens, you will have to issue an affidavit and must acquire all necessary signatures to certify the change. Mas dako na gyud hinuun imong problem if you make alterations on the certificate. Your certificate must be as authentic as possible.

    I had a case where Section B of one of my certificates had a co-owner and the seller couldn't be traced (won't answer my call). I told PCCI if its okay if I just erase the co-signer/co-owner if they can't be found. They said my certificate will be nullified if I do that. If in any case they couldn't find the original co-signer then the board will have to decide on it if they will transfer the certificate to me but the necessary process must be followed which is to locate the co-owner. I followed the process they suggested and exhausted all possibilities to locate the owner. Fortunately, they did. They really sent a messenger to ask the owner to sign. And you know what was so nice? they didn't charge me for it at all. They just charge me the courier fees (transportation to and fro). PCCI is an organization of people. It's best that you establish a relationship with the people running it.

    I'm fine with paying the penalty but don't worry about it as I'm certain its not that huge. Based on my experience which was supposedly complex, it went really well. Sayon ra ka storya ang PCCI. As long as your request is reasonable, I don't see why they won't accommodate.

    Be reasonable lang jud. Don't ask for "unreasonable" demands. I didn't exactly ask for a waiver - they just waived it. When they know your spending a lot, I think they'll decide by themselves if its necessary to charge you or not. Just talk to them. Nothing beats a good talk. You don't lose. Ask for a direct Globe line or a direct Sun line - they have it if the long distance cost worry you. I did that. I ask them all the time about list of breeders of dog breeds I'm considering of getting, I ask them about the reputation of the breeder, I ask them of registration code of PCCI certificate before I purchase the dog, I ask them to transfer the name of the dog directly to my name through the breeder itself so I don't have to pay extra for the transfer fee etc. You learn a lot by calling them. I suggest that if you plan to be a breeder eventually, call them and find someone you can connect with each time you have a registration/breeding question.

  10. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by Shihpomapoo Dog Hotel View Post
    The advantage of hangyo is they actually build a relationship with someone from PCCI. I'm not saying na manghangyo para mangaway. They are easy to talk to as long as you are reasonable.

    Also, I don't think you can change the date when its already written on the certificate. If there is one thing I'm very certain of, PCCI won't allow corrections, white ink, etc. The certificate must be clean from erasures or alterations. Once that happens, you will have to issue an affidavit and must acquire all necessary signatures to certify the change. Mas dako na gyud hinuun imong problem if you make alterations on the certificate. Your certificate must be as authentic as possible.

    I had a case where Section B of one of my certificates had a co-owner and the seller couldn't be traced (won't answer my call). I told PCCI if its okay if I just erase the co-signer/co-owner if they can't be found. They said my certificate will be nullified if I do that. If in any case they couldn't find the original co-signer then the board will have to decide on it if they will transfer the certificate to me but the necessary process must be followed which is to locate the co-owner. I followed the process they suggested and exhausted all possibilities to locate the owner. Fortunately, they did. They really sent a messenger to ask the owner to sign. And you know what was so nice? they didn't charge me for it at all. They just charge me the courier fees (transportation to and fro). PCCI is an organization of people. It's best that you establish a relationship with the people running it.

    I'm fine with paying the penalty but don't worry about it as I'm certain its not that huge. Based on my experience which was supposedly complex, it went really well. Sayon ra ka storya ang PCCI. As long as your request is reasonable, I don't see why they won't accommodate.

    Be reasonable lang jud. Don't ask for "unreasonable" demands. I didn't exactly ask for a waiver - they just waived it. When they know your spending a lot, I think they'll decide by themselves if its necessary to charge you or not. Just talk to them. Nothing beats a good talk. You don't lose. Ask for a direct Globe line or a direct Sun line - they have it if the long distance cost worry you. I did that. I ask them all the time about list of breeders of dog breeds I'm considering of getting, I ask them about the reputation of the breeder, I ask them of registration code of PCCI certificate before I purchase the dog, I ask them to transfer the name of the dog directly to my name through the breeder itself so I don't have to pay extra for the transfer fee etc. You learn a lot by calling them. I suggest that if you plan to be a breeder eventually, call them and find someone you can connect with each time you have a registration/breeding question.
    you're right, theres nothing wrong with establishing a relationship with them. but the problem/situatuion here involves very little penalty, maybe 30pesos at most. can you imagine if everyone did what you're doing? pcci would be very busy entertaining calls and their staff is actually quite limited.

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