The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[psychologic]

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hmmmmm if nakabasa kas bible I believe d ka makaingon nga wala na gitudlo sa bible since the rosary ug ang kanang novena nga prayers are taken from the bible esp ang "our father" nga prayer w/c is explicitly said in the bible on how we pray to the father naa mana apil sa novena ug rosary..

ahh sige asa na chapter and verse kay ako na pangitaon..

[psychologic]

I believe TAX is only applicable sa Organization nga income producing though dako au ug nakuha ang church sa ila mga tithes ug donations.. but usahay ang church murag nagnegosyo nman though d ko kaconfirm if taxable bana since namaligya nman cla wala man sad ko makita nga naghatag cla ug resibo sa mga tao..

para asa man d i na ang offertory paingon bro? ang bayad sa misa, bunyag kasal ug uban pa?

[dartzed]

para asa man d i na ang offertory paingon bro? ang bayad sa misa, bunyag kasal ug uban pa?

ang offertory if im not wrong most of it kay padung nas vatican or gasto para sa simbahan(maintenance, projects, etc..), naay charity, campaign para sa missionaries to spread the good news ug uban pah for more info better ask sa finance department sa mga parish they keep records man about sa ila expenses..

[SioDenz]

aw di man ko sweto anang imong religion bro, nag istorya man gud ta about names, Roman Catholic ang sa ilaha, ang sa inyo Protestant Reformation,. only by essence biblical, but not really present in the bible literaly.

imu man gud gi sample ang protestante.

Akong point is nganu wala may reference ni Kristo or Kristianismo sa ngalan sa Relgion if ma trace pa nimu ang Katolisismo sa direct tinun-an ni Kristo? nganu ang uban naa man like Iglesia ni Kristo, Jesus is Lord, etc etc..

[SioDenz]

I believe TAX is only applicable sa Organization nga income producing though dako au ug nakuha ang church sa ila mga tithes ug donations.. but usahay ang church murag nagnegosyo nman though d ko kaconfirm if taxable bana since namaligya nman cla wala man sad ko makita nga naghatag cla ug resibo sa mga tao..

Kinsa kahay nag una anang balaora, ang simbahan or ang gobyerno.

[dartzed]

ahh sige asa na chapter and verse kay ako na pangitaon..

taken from Matthew 6:9-13 "our father"
taken from Luke 1:28-29 and Luke 1:41-42 "Hail Mary"

[dartzed]

Kinsa kahay nag una anang balaora, ang simbahan or ang gobyerno.

im not sure if ang government nagimpose ana or ang church..

but sa government system kay lain bya jud ang state ug ang church d pwede makalabot ang church dapat..

[noy]

bro mao nay problema kay the bible teaches us that God loves us "unconditionally" meaning whatever happens He should not have done the killings, flood, etc I mean based sa imo explanation naa jud chance nga ang nakasala mausab jud but in your case is kad2ng nangamatay na ang imo pasabot.. A God that is made up according to a Man's image is what I see nga naa sa bible and yes I still believe we are made according to the image of a God and I thought that the bible has been corrupted long time ago..

God gave Man one of the greatest privilege w/c is "freewill" but God in the old testament defied that privilege he gave kay He intervened man sa mga activities sa tao punishing them with death in different ways..

you spoke about "right and wrong" and Yes perhaps wala pa au nato magrasp unsay naa sa mind sa usa ka God..
yet the bible said heaven is a place of peace and we know God is all knowing, all seeing, etc. how can heaven be peaceful If God that is all powerful let deluge happen seeing everything on earth suffer?.. if ikaw naa sa heaven bro makakita ka ana would heaven be a peaceful place for you?..

I think deli pata OT ani since this question is supposed to be answered in all christian denominations and yes this I question according to the denomination created by this thread..

the Bible talks about new heaven and earth, it also talks about the passing of heaven and earth
which would mean nga kanang heaven karun lumalabay ra pud na..
it is peaceful though in a way ang naa ngadto kay puro nagglorify ni God, unlike diri sa kalibutan...lahi2x ang gi glorify...
but ang new heaven and earth wihich will rise sa katapusang adlaw...
nig kahuman sa final battle then mao na jud ang eternal peace.
perhaps the reason why we depicted contradictions is we try to measure God with human scale...

regarding absolutes about right and wrong in the eyes of God.
human as we are it is easy for us to question His acts esp the killings,punishment etc
simply because are views about right and wrong has its limits...
in the same way we hated our parents before because we do not understand their ways
esp when the approach we use is of a child...
but when we become parents, when we look at things from a prent's POV
makasabut ta..
Like from an audience POV martyrdom is cruelty
but to the martyrs it is something beautiful.

mao btaw sahay, suko kaayo tas Ginoo for having us to go through loads of bad stuff
but eventually, thanking Him for allowing pains for we became a better person...

if God was to think the same way we do...i dunno if we would be able to
manouver things as He did...turning our failures into voctories...

for us, what God did was cruelty, who knows for Him it's totally the opposite.

if we are to gauge happenings from our perspective
the term blessings in disguise would have not been invented.

[Breakeven]

@noy

i agree a 101% bro. very nice

[dartzed]

the Bible talks about new heaven and earth, it also talks about the passing of heaven and earth
which would mean nga kanang heaven karun lumalabay ra pud na..
it is peaceful though in a way ang naa ngadto kay puro nagglorify ni God, unlike diri sa kalibutan...lahi2x ang gi glorify...
but ang new heaven and earth wihich will rise sa katapusang adlaw...
nig kahuman sa final battle then mao na jud ang eternal peace.
perhaps the reason why we depicted contradictions is we try to measure God with human scale...

regarding absolutes about right and wrong in the eyes of God.
human as we are it is easy for us to question His acts esp the killings,punishment etc
simply because are views about right and wrong has its limits...
in the same way we hated our parents before because we do not understand their ways
esp when the approach we use is of a child...
but when we become parents, when we look at things from a prent's POV
makasabut ta..
Like from an audience POV martyrdom is cruelty
but to the martyrs it is something beautiful.

mao btaw sahay, suko kaayo tas Ginoo for having us to go through loads of bad stuff
but eventually, thanking Him for allowing pains for we became a better person...

if God was to think the same way we do...i dunno if we would be able to
manouver things as He did...turning our failures into voctories...

for us, what God did was cruelty, who knows for Him it's totally the opposite.

if we are to gauge happenings from our perspective
the term blessings in disguise would have not been invented.

hmmmmmmmm by your statements I believe you are indirectly saying perhaps God have some human traits after all, though we see it quite different way..

Yes you have a point nga naa jud limits ato views for now maybe sooner or later we humans can work it out..

maybe perhaps soon ma acquire na sa Man ang wisdom of God..