Marvel versus DC

[Blackbeard]

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the whole fight lasted in such a short while, from Earth to the Sun and back to Earth again.

I'll get back to it later. gonna be logging out.

[P-Chan]

Cyclops's optic blast isn't as powerful as the Sun, the Heat Vision is.

yhea,but the effect should be more or less close to what will happen when superman tries that..

no, it won't take time. stop downplaying Superman's abilities.
Hulk isn't slow, his reactions are impressive but his movement isn't. he can launches himself at his opponents using his strength, the problem is he can't change directions because he lacks flight.

i'm not downing superman's power, those are just my observation sa iyang ice breath..in fact among DC superman is probably top on my list then batman a close second...

btw, hulk can change direction in the air..

[QUOTE=Blackbeard;8655850]thunder clap won't work.
go forward right into Superman's fist, is that what you're saying?[quote]

I said two options.. i will explain.. clap,when hulk claps the molecules that are getting frozen mo move around thus therefore mo the new air around the hulk will start to freeze again.. common sense..

go forward.. by just moving the hulk can break the ice.. like an icebreaker na ship moving in the artic only faster...

you really have no idea how Superman's Ice Breath works.
he can freeze the likes of the Flash with it, of course the Flash vibrates his atoms and breaks free instantly. in the case for the Hulk while I do believe he will break free in no time, Superman can act faster and will chuck him into outer space/next galaxy.

clearly not, but he can't be attacked. and if he vibrates enough he can turn invisible. not that he ever needs to with his speed he can just get behind Hulk and hit him in his blind spots because of Supes super speed.

I'm familiar with superman's powers... hulk can push an opponent by flexing his muscles.. that all he need to break the ice... it's called strength..

again with your throwing theory that has already been answered by the comic strips i posted..

hulk is not that slow to counter an attack from a blind side

if he gets hit with a planet destroying punch, it'll certainly KO him unless it's WWH then Superman might put in a little effort in his attack.

I doubt it... you clearly underestimate the toughness of hulk..

also has nothing to do with the fight. at one point in their lives every superhero/villain has been killed, just not as highly publicised as Superman's.

just pointing that even superman can fall..

no, because Superman in that image was not trying to fight the Hulk or wasn't taking him seriously. notice the dialogue. if Superman were ever serious the Hulk wouldn't be able to break free unless he has been angered enough far above his World War Hulk levels.

far above WWH level... hulk can do..

heh Hulk is a walking no limits fallacy.

depends on his attention span...

you got it wrong the instant you said Superman, with his vast array of powers and the number of ways he can use them, said he can only do so much.

superman has a chance of "defeating" or removing the hulk from battle... you just don't know it yet.. (obviously I won't tell.. hehehe.. )

wow, I'm surprised that you actually read what I wrote.

takes up 30 mins of my life.. hahahaha! :LOL:

he's not fighting the common street thugs in this match up, but another universe of superheroes and villains.
he's also taken the commander role before in larger scale battles/wars.

he's the leader of justice league right? no surprise...

see? this is why I was surprised that you read my post, though I suppose not all of my post.
Rogue won't be touching Diana. Diana broke through the speed force(speed of light barrier) while only running and without putting any effort, how much more when she flies.

I know she's fast but never seen her move like that... (again from my observation lang)

for the sake of everyone, hopefully not. though it's not been explored beyond that since Diana would stop.

you don't want to know.

hmm... will research on this.. very interesting wonder woman have this ability.. this is very imba powers (from what I understand from you)

on the off chance and with incredible amounts of luck that Rogue does manage to touch her, Diana's willpower is one of the greatest in the DCU she'll withstand being absorbed rather easily since it's not the first time it's happened, but why bother when she can just punch Rogues face. also, magic might be beyond what Rogue can absorb. Diana is also protected by the gods(well most of them), so might not be a good idea to actually try and absorb her powers.

even some of marvel's mighty have fell with a touch.. DC pah...

no, but that might as well be the case considering the HUGE advantage in speed, strength, skills, experience(fought in a 1000 year long war in Asgard together with Superman) that Diana has.

a touch from rouge not only gets the person's ability and power but also memory...

I was expecting this response. you're still new to the whole DC vs. Marvel battles that's why you think so. but the fans have used Marvels class system to rank DC characters as well, and basing their ranking on what they have shown in the comics. and Wonder Woman is ranked at class 100 which means basically incalculable. you can actually google it if you want.

I can imagine DC and Marvel doing this conversation if ever mag sabot sila ug ranking... how long since we started this thread and we're still debating (mostly on) superman, hulk, wonder woman and rouge...

naa diay na sa years? kinsa mas tigulang mauy mo daug? ana ba? i know you know daghan characters na sinauna pa or hundred years old mapildi sa mga new characters, right? example, mr.sinister, even apocalypse... sa DC, si superman makapildi ug mga 1000 + yrs old na villains... so since Thor and Superman pildi dayun si Superman ani kay hundred years old naman ni si Thor, right? hehe...

LOL, di lang gud diay sa gugma kutob ang "age does not matter".. hahaha!

hmmmm... ni bilib man gani ka ug god sa mga character, u even said Diana will be protected by gods but Thor is a god, how about that?

nice one...

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P.S. chill lang mo bro hap!.. this is just a healthy debate..please don't make this a fight..

[P-Chan]

OT:suggestion can we start fresh and keep this short?

just list all the powers and abilities of the hero (with matching source, no source = not counted)

then we'll compare

example
batman vs. iron man

batman
super rich
gadget freak
martial artist
street smart
bat weapons
bullet proof armor
claw on each arm
sweet talk

iron man
genius
super rich
can connect/hack to machines (computer based)
can fly
tough armor
shoot lazers

then kita mo compare like

both are equally rich, although bullet proof ra ang armor ni batman based on his martial art skill maka likay siya for a counter attack,maybe a bat weapon on episode 3 of batman seires na ni labay siya ug electric shackels to stun the opponent.. a human is still human.. iron man's reaction might be slow enough.. but then again i would imagine iron man flying 80% of the battle which is hard to attack for hand thrown projectiles like his bat boomerang..of course batman can sweet talk him.. he know how to trick the minds but then again iron man is a genius and might not fall for it.. but then again it work for joker a super twisted criminal..

^^ although it's similar to what we have been doing pero hopefully we can come to a conclusion fast... and venture to other line ups...

[Blackbeard]

yhea,but the effect should be more or less close to what will happen when superman tries that..

power of the Sun.

i'm not downing superman's power, those are just my observation sa iyang ice breath..in fact among DC superman is probably top on my list then batman a close second...

right, and your observation is pretty off.

btw, hulk can change direction in the air..

he can't fly, so that would be a no there.

I said two options.. i will explain.. clap,when hulk claps the molecules that are getting frozen mo move around thus therefore mo the new air around the hulk will start to freeze again.. common sense..

go forward.. by just moving the hulk can break the ice.. like an icebreaker na ship moving in the artic only faster...

oh you meant breaking the ice. yeah, he can do that when he's in Shiar space. maybe he can borrow a space ship or have Gladiator carry him back to Earth.

I'm familiar with superman's powers... hulk can push an opponent by flexing his muscles.. that all he need to break the ice... it's called strength..

yes, I did say he will break the ice but by then... well see above.

again with your throwing theory that has already been answered by the comic strips i posted..

wow, there was no indication in that strip you posted that Superman was going to throw the Hulk, he just grabbed him to stop him from going wild at a barbecue.

hulk is not that slow to counter an attack from a blind side

he is when his opponent is much faster than him.

I doubt it... you clearly underestimate the toughness of hulk..

more like you overestimate the Hulk or don't know anything about Superman at all. I'm going to go with both.

just pointing that even superman can fall..

which has nothing to do with this discussion at all.

far above WWH level... hulk can do..

if Superman does nothing and lives where the sun will never reach him and just lets Hulk build power for the next hundred years, sure.

depends on his attention span...

what?

superman has a chance of "defeating" or removing the hulk from battle... you just don't know it yet.. (obviously I won't tell.. hehehe.. )

no, I've already said two of the ways. and of course you won't tell, how can you when you don't know.

takes up 30 mins of my life.. hahahaha! :LOL:

you need to spend less time on the internet.

I know she's fast but never seen her move like that... (again from my observation lang)

that's why it's advisable in this kinds of internet vs battles to research on the characters you're arguing against. both you and gatsby failed to do that, though gatsby humorously is using wikipedia as source of all places and the cartoons when the comics are so much more powerful.

hmm... will research on this.. very interesting wonder woman have this ability.. this is very imba powers (from what I understand from you)

Godwave... I might post a scan of it later.

even some of marvel's mighty have fell with a touch.. DC pah...

magic, from the gods no less. I doubt Rogue has ever absorbed anything like that.

a touch from rouge not only gets the person's ability and power but also memory...

spoiler alert! she won't be touching Diana.

I can imagine DC and Marvel doing this conversation if ever mag sabot sila ug ranking... how long since we started this thread and we're still debating (mostly on) superman, hulk, wonder woman and rouge...

no, they never will. so it's up to the fans to do the job.

P.S. chill lang mo bro hap!.. this is just a healthy debate..please don't make this a fight..

good luck hoping for that.

[Blackbeard]

OT:suggestion can we start fresh and keep this short?

just list all the powers and abilities of the hero (with matching source, no source = not counted)

then we'll compare

example
batman vs. iron man

batman
super rich
gadget freak
martial artist
street smart
bat weapons
bullet proof armor
claw on each arm
sweet talk

iron man
genius
super rich
can connect/hack to machines (computer based)
can fly
tough armor
shoot lazers

then kita mo compare like

both are equally rich, although bullet proof ra ang armor ni batman based on his martial art skill maka likay siya for a counter attack,maybe a bat weapon on episode 3 of batman seires na ni labay siya ug electric shackels to stun the opponent.. a human is still human.. iron man's reaction might be slow enough.. but then again i would imagine iron man flying 80% of the battle which is hard to attack for hand thrown projectiles like his bat boomerang..of course batman can sweet talk him.. he know how to trick the minds but then again iron man is a genius and might not fall for it.. but then again it work for joker a super twisted criminal..

^^ although it's similar to what we have been doing pero hopefully we can come to a conclusion fast... and venture to other line ups...

Iron Man
if Batman is given time to prepare, he wins.

with Batman matches, it's as simple as that.

[kamikaze426]

Dali rana pildihon si superman, green kryptonite ra ang katapat.

[Blackbeard]

Dali rana pildihon si superman, green kryptonite ra ang katapat.

although that's true, it depends on the amount of green k. if it's just a small piece you can hold in your hand, then it would be best to just surrender because that's going to do jack. a mountain sized green k, well they'll then have to figure out how to beat the rest of DC's overpowered heroes/villains.

Surfer though is really bad news for Superman since he can spam two of his weaknesses.

[Albrecht]

although that's true, it depends on the amount of green k. if it's just a small piece you can hold in your hand, then it would be best to just surrender because that's going to do jack. a mountain sized green k, well they'll then have to figure out how to beat the rest of DC's overpowered heroes/villains.

Surfer though is really bad news for Superman since he can spam two of his weaknesses.

how would surfer spam superman's weaknesses? what's surfer's ability again?

[gatsby]

gahi mn gud ka ug ulo.

gahe ko ug ulo? unsa nalang ka? mga gahe ug ulo ang mga tao mo oppose nimo? so dapat unsa imo isulti mauy tuohan, right? haha...

see? gi-ignore lang akong gisulti. tsk tsk. mao di jud ta maghuman ky ako moreply jud ko sa imong mga points pero ikaw mo lihay.

luk whos talkin.

sweetie, magic and mutant powers are different. Ms. Marvel once tried to absorb magic and she regretted doing so, asking Dr. Strange for help later.

Ms.Marvel or Rogue? did she die? i believe wala.. di lang sya nahan sa feeling ug di lang nya master ang powers mao di sya nahan, right? but she didnt die, she can do it with Wonder Woman too.

what magic ba? does it mean magic pud powers ni Thor? hmmmmm... u know wat im thinking...

do you read your own post? you said Rogue will try absorbing Diana's powers which are a magical gift from the gods. trying to steal her powers is basically stealing from the gods. and that's also beyond Rogue's capability since she can only absorb mutant powers.

a gift from god, but she is not a god, right? did i say mapatay ni Rogue si Diana? i just said weaken or maybe mapaslep bcoz of Rogue's absorbing power.. cge lang ko balik balik ani dah. why cant u just accept that Rogue has absorbing power na anything she wanted to absorb pwede, she even absorbed the power of Magneto, and Magneto FYI is the number 1 villain of all time according to IGN - he wont be number 1 just for nothing...

by the way, wer did u get na si Rogue mo absorb lang ug mutant powers? kani ako ni nabasahan - certain extraordinarily powerful beings have proven resistant to Rogue's power, and she may only share part of their memories and power, as was the case when Rogue once attempted to absorb power from the alien Magus... Magus is a cosmic being. she may not absorb entire memories and power but she may only have share part, and again, Wonder Woman is not a god, gift from god is different from a god, hope you get that?

oh by the way, Rogue absorbed the powers of Sunfire? one of Sunfire's abilities - Shiro also seems to be quite an accomplished martial artist. He has displayed impressive hand to hand skills on several occasions and stated that he didn't need to employ his powers in order to defeat Hand ninjas. He is trained in karate, judo, budo (Japanese Samurai swordsmanship), and kendo. He is also an expert in the combat use of his superhuman powers.

she was mind controlled by Roulette

controlled by a weaker villain? hahahahahaha... let me ask you, is Roulette a mutant? a god? or possesses god given powers? i believe NOT, she was just a martial artist... Roulette has no apparent superhuman abilities... now this is funny... na control gani sya how much more ma absorb, haha... FTW Rouge... LOL

Rogue couldn't even beat Juggernaut in that cartoon and was owned by Gladiator.

kita sab ka gi unsa sumbag ni Rogue si Gladiator? i believe kita ka, uncanny x-men - phoenix saga... and Gladiator is a cosmic being, leader of the Imperial Guard.

it's called experience. the only time a more experienced character would lose in a fight is if he/she was being careless or their enemy was much more powerful than them that their experience would serve only to keep them alive. and in this case, Wonder Woman is way above Rogue in every category including experience. not to mention Diana grew up as a warrior while Rogue was just a teenager in a suburb with lots of issues.

experience nga, does it mean pildi si Superman daun kay mas experienced si Thor kaysa niya? agree? if not then mo oppose sya sa imong statement above. besides Thor is much powerful than Superman.
yah Diana grew up sa Amazon and she is the best fighter among all, pero kita ka sa clip sa YouTube ako gi post dri? there was a big woman na kusgan sab, kulata gani si Diana, she (diana) did not die but still the point there is dili sya ana ka powerful na ikick lang niya si Rogue KO na, haha... and dont tell me mo ingun na sab ka ga ignore ko sa imong gipang sulti, how about you? 1000 years old or not, well experience or not but if you have a deadly power like Rogue, mo absorb powers even memories kana dapat kana matakot and besides Rogue is not like Roulette, mas powerful pa sab si Rogue kaysa ni Roulette, LOL...

they are the collective opinion of nearly every comic book fan who has interest in this kinds of things. I've met many other people like you and IceKnight who have no idea what they're talking about. the idea that Rogue would actually stand a chance against Wonder Woman? that will get you laughed at and accused for being a troll, though I'm a little more forgiving since the Philippines was exposed more to Marvel than DC, and are pretty ignorant to how incredibly ridiculous the powers of the mainstream DC heroes are compared to Marvel.

no idea? are you sure? i was in high school when i started joining debates about marvel versus dc. not that big debate classmates lang and schoolmates who are fond of comic characters. i have my own ideas, i have comics, movies, cards, and now the Internet. i dont say im well verse sa Marvel and DC but i do research on other's opinions and ideas like Wikipedia and other forums. unsa tu imo ingun sa Wikipedia?

yes, wikipedia. a most reliable source. and like I said, I know all of this already.

your so called "proof" coming from a notoriously unreliable website prone to edits by just about anyone.

ingun ka reliable tapos karun notorously unreliable, hahahaha.. make up your mind... you know this already pero mo hindi ka sang ayun sa gisulat ni Wikipedia for Spectre and other information. for your info, yes WIKI is a site wherein pwede sya ma edit pero try to check again days, weeks, or months if your revisions will stay? try lang bro... i believe it wont, why? because they have the accurate or the real data about certain topics and those data are gathered from reliable site. sa kani na topic of course from Marvel and DC, do you think DC will just read wrong info sa WIKIPEDIA and will not do anything to revise or edit it? try to think....

yes, and Superman has fought many gods and beaten many of them. being a god doesn't mean they're automatically invincible or cannot be defeated.

like who? pwede ko mo ingun imo gi ignore akong mga posts about Thor? like powers and kung kinsa sya anak? god and goddess hehehehe.... define god daw? and now god versus kryptonian? hehe...

are you insulting me?

i am not insulting you, i am just giving you an information about Spectre. i dont know why mo supak ka sa Wikipedia when in fact it was based sa DC. so asa diay dapat mas mo tuo ang tao sa IMOHA? kaysa sa Wikipedia? hahahaha... try to send email to Wikipedia na sayup sila sa ilang information, and you were right all along and theyre wrong. hehehehhe...

now I'm just laughing.
must resist trying to laugh, because you are very wrong there.
they are about even.
yawn, basically.

hahahaha, mag laugh nalang ka bro? all of my info, rants, ideas here are NOT only based sako own ideas but also other ideas, again from comics, tv, movies, cards, and now Internet.. how about you bro? ayaw palabi sa IMONG own ideas ra bro coz u know na dili tanan tinuod not unless if you believe sakto jud ka pirmi... maglisud ko ug converse nimo coz closed imo mind sa IMONG ideas alone even Wikipedia gina question nimo. okay cge try post a link na mas reliable pa kaysa sa Wikipedia (i hope its not a blog, or a fan made site) much better if DC site na sya.

bolded: no. that is a wrong belief. I'll post a scan of this later.

okay, correct me if im wrong. post proofs that i am wrong, i will accept. but i hope its a reliable site - not a blog, or a fan made site but coming from a DC site.

[Blackbeard]

how would surfer spam superman's weaknesses? what's surfer's ability again?

one of his energy manipulation abilities. maybe not green k, but red sun he can replicate that radiation wavelength and weaken Supes.

in-character though, Surfer would lose in a hard fight. he rarely uses the full extent of his powers in most storylines he's part off, which sucks. but it's part of his character.