Catholic bishop frowns on Halloween commercialization

[bendzgerona]

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suya lang na sila kay wala sa ila naadto ang kwarta

[h3lios]

don't attack the group, go after the individuals.

here in the US, the catholic church does not collect fees for service kay naa man kwarta ang simbahan diri kay mas datu man ang faithfuls diri compared to 3rd world countries like philippines, mexico, brazil, colombia, puerto rico, cuba, etc.

if dili pa corrupt ang government in these countries, siguro mas arang2x pagka-butang ang mga citizens thereby mas daghan individuals maka donate ug funds sa simbahan and MAYBE di na kinahanglan mo collect ang simbahan ug fees for service.

moreover, naa man free service para sa mga poor. like mass baptism, weddings, confirmation and free burial services for the poor. diri sa states pobre man or datu, mass baptism kasagaran. ang pinoy ra man gyud gusto ug "sosyal" private nga mga service, nga pwede ra man unta dunganon tanan.

IMO, okay ra man mo charge fees for service. otherwise, unsaon pagka buhi sa simbahan?

unlike other christian denomination, the catholic church does not impose or even force their followers to do tithes. that's the reason why they ask fees for service which for me is just reasonable.

we should look at the situation objectively and dili nato tirahon ang religion.

AFAIK, there is also corruption in terms of money or s3x in other christian denomination. di na lang ko mo-mention coz it will be an unhealthy discussion.

Right!

on the other hand, there should be some word against the commercialization of Christmas and Easter.

Most of us forget the real meaning of these holidays and concentrate on "how much business it generates".

[inc-pankz]

ang donation ba compulsory or dle?

[raski]

^^ good point. In any case, I lament that people are once again thinking that money is evil. Money is neither good or evil, it is value-neutral. To want to make money, is not evil. This is the conundrum of the Church because often priests will make people feel guilty for wanting to make more money, kay mao lagi, "money is the root of all evil." When the reality is, "people are the root of all evil" and money is just another vehicle for either good or evil. But then the Church wants and needs money from its brethren too, that's why it charges "enforced donations" for services that in other countries would be free. Neither is it an excuse to say that those countries are rich and we are poor, that is getting things the other way around, because we are a poor country, the Church should arguably not be charging for these things. But that's not realistic isn't it? Because the Church needs and wants money, and they know it.

What I am saying is, there is nothing wrong with wanting and needing to make money, there is nothing wrong with "commercialization" it's not an evil concept and the Church should just come out and admit that as an entity it too engages in commercialization and that it is not this evil thing that they try to make it out to be. We live in a capitalist economy, and the market economy, commercialization, money and the desire for profits are not evil in and of themselves...

[AmorsoloX]

What I am saying is, there is nothing wrong with wanting and needing to make money, there is nothing wrong with "commercialization" it's not an evil concept and the Church should just come out and admit that as an entity it too engages in commercialization and that it is not this evil thing that they try to make it out to be. We live in a capitalist economy, and the market economy, commercialization, money and the desire for profits are not evil in and of themselves...

agree.. we live in a free country, we live in a capitalist economy where one may do business in any manner he chooses as long as it conforms to the state laws.. if you wish to make money in holidays, why not? mas maau nlang kay sa mangawat dba?..

i wouldnt be surprised kung mu react negatively ang church.. afterall.. kinsa ba negosyante ganahan competition dba? the church also wants money.. it needs money to survive..

money is neither good nor evil.. its just a souless object.. its like a gun.. guns dont kill people.. people kill people.. same with money.. it depends on how you use it..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

^^^

You have to understand that RELIGION is the only recession proof as a business . They dont want your money , they will accept it though if you donate some .

The church is wealthy , by saying that the church wants all the money is wrong . There is indeed " UNOD " on the sentiments of the BISHOP'S statement though I personally dont 100% agree with him even if I am Catholic myself . He is referring to HOLIDAYS being more given of importance than the real essence of ALL SAINTS and SOULS DAY .

If people only ponder , it is obvious and understandable that he is making remarks targeting the CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY if not the , the CATHOLIC members of the church .

[jeremiahjay]

I agree with the Bishop. Haloween is an occult practice.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

To make matter worst .... nag paila lang mga ni react sa HATED nila sa church being self proclaimed ATHEIST . Correct me if I am wrong , basta church ang topic ug dili uyon sa inyoha , hehehe ... ambroot na lang .

[raski]

I don't think it's accurate to say that the Church is a recession-proof business. Just like any organization that involves a lot of people and a lot of assets, the Catholic Church absolutely needs and wants money as well. There are many countries in the world where Churches have been abandoned and are even being converted into mosques. There is no clearer evidence that churches need money and regular church-goers to provide said money to survive.'

Source: Catholic Church Conservation: Full mosques, empty churches

And quote:

"Several redundant churches in Glasgow and other parts of Scotland are slowly being converted into mosques as Christian congregations dwindle while a growing Muslim population demands more places to worship."

And this is something that is happening in most countries that experience a decline in church-goers, including Britain, France and Australia. The muslims, being generally more devout than catholics, are able to support their mosque upkeep with vast inflows of money from Saudi Arabia and from their own congregations, whereas the Catholic institution, particularly in Rome rarely intercedes to support local churches, in fact the contrary is almost always true, a portion of local church funds goes to the upkeep of the Vatican, which is a very expensive seat of power requiring thousands of workers and huge maintenance of gilded gates, buildings and artwork.

Regarding donations... If something is a donation, then it's a donation in every sense of the word, given voluntarily and not required for the service to be performed. If it is labeled "enforced donations" or in other words, if the donation is not made, the service is not provided, then it is just a euphemism for a fee, which is commercial in nature. Again I reiterate that the church is not evil because it engages in commercialism, but surely it must admit that it does engage in commercialism too because it charges fees for services like weddings and baptismals for the use of its facilities and the time of their priests. There is nothing wrong with that. Churches need and want money, but so does everybody else, to survive. If church goers cannot be compelled to part with donations, then it will be impossible to maintain church buildings or to support priests who have no other means to make a living. Money is needed by everyone and it is not evil to want or desire to have money in order to survive.

[gikapoy]

To make matter worst .... nag paila lang mga ni react sa HATED nila sa church being self proclaimed ATHEIST . Correct me if I am wrong , basta church ang topic ug dili uyon sa inyoha , hehehe ... ambroot na lang .

wala man tingali nag lagot sa church sir kung dili ang gi pang buhat sa mga taga simbahan
mura gud sa panahon sa mga prayle.. daghan nag mga nag lagot... ATHEIST