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  1. #41

    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams View Post
    subscriiber capacity is not only based on terabytes...

    typically,
    1switch handles 600thousand subscribers, of course, you have to have floor space and precise cooling (dili aircon pareha sa imong bedroom). 1HLR handles 1.2million subscribers.

    if your subscribers increases to 800thousand, dili man ka makapalit ug 200thousand additional capacity lang.
    at 800thousand your HLR can still handle it but what about your switch? dili man ka makapalit ug 0.5switch. It has to be 1whole switch. Mao nga if you increase to 800thousand, you have to buy another complete switching equipment.

    Now, compute pila ka switch and HLR ang naa sa Globe/SMART/SUN given the number of subscribers they claim to now have. pila ang floor space required, pila ang precision cooling capacity required, pila ka precision power supplies required, pila ka transmission equipment required to handle interconnection between two switches and 1HLR (wala pa na labut ang external interconnection), pila cost sa annual OPEX...ug uban pa.

    Nokia/Siemens/Ericsson/Huawei...etc are also making it Bigtime!

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    naa bay differenceor dako ba kung ang sulod sa switch usa ra or daghan? in terms sa curyente ug maintenance?

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams View Post
    hahaha... makabasa ka ana if you buy a cellular system from Nokia/siemens etc.
    parehas sa microsoft, when you want their OS, paliton nimo ang license, if you buy MS OFFICE naay license...unya dili puede i-share di ba? that is business!

    so when you expand...dili man ikaw-ikaw lang mo expand...there are software and hardware modifications that has to be done, equipment vendor ang motrabaho ani, of course, with a fee and SW and HW cost.....and depending on how many you like...naa nay corresponding license nga imong paliton plus aside sa license naa pa na sila share o fee sa kada subs nga naa sa database.

    kana imo OS bro...licensed na?


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    unsa may labot sa akong OS sa atong topic?
    tag-ana licensed ba toink....

    btw, nakapalit diay ka ug cellular system bro? kay nakabasa man ka
    paki explain nganung magbayad man ug license ang mga telecoms sa mga cell companies,
    sa sim license ba ...

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams View Post
    bottomline is, it is a business...a very good business!

    kung negosyante ka bro, are you willing to divulge(THE TRUTH) on how you earn bigtime?
    if imo na ipakita imo "strategy"...dili na magdugay imo negosyo.

    ang mga oil companies, mas una pa man na sila nga nag negosyo dinhi sa pilipinas kaysa telecom companies...nakadungog o nakakita ba ka sa ilang sumada on how they arrive at their pump prices?


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    nindot lagi na nga business,
    pero di man ma-iwasan nga naa juy tao nga gusto ug explaination...
    so, dili jud malikayan ...

  4. #44
    That's why the government is already looking into the books of oil companies also kay dako man kaau sila og profit why man na dili nila pwede ipa ubsan lang gamay ilang pump prices aron lang sad mo ubos ilang price per liter for the benefit of all the people in the Philippines. If you are a good businessman you will not look only into your own welfare you have to look also the welfare of the public.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams View Post
    bottomline is, it is a business...a very good business!

    kung negosyante ka bro, are you willing to divulge(THE TRUTH) on how you earn bigtime?
    if imo na ipakita imo "strategy"...dili na magdugay imo negosyo.

    ang mga oil companies, mas una pa man na sila nga nag negosyo dinhi sa pilipinas kaysa telecom companies...nakadungog o nakakita ba ka sa ilang sumada on how they arrive at their pump prices?



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    Agree jud ko nimo, Bro, 1001%. Ang pagpangawat sa mga subscribers mao ju'y negosyo nga dili jud maalkanse.

  6. #46
    wala pa gyud nuan ko nakasulay gikawatan kug load sa globe. pero akong mga friends sa smart, cge rag bagulbol, bwahahahaha!!!

    grabe na pud ng 100 load mu expire in 2 weeks, 300 load mu expire in 2 months, ok ra kung textbomb ka. pero kung dili, sayang au na ug mu expire.

    either way, dagko bya ug profit ng mga telco, so dapat lang pud mudugang silag equipment para maka-handle sa ilang load. dili mag sobrag dinalo ba.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    wala pa gyud nuan ko nakasulay gikawatan kug load sa globe. pero akong mga friends sa smart, cge rag bagulbol, bwahahahaha!!!

    grabe na pud ng 100 load mu expire in 2 weeks, 300 load mu expire in 2 months, ok ra kung textbomb ka. pero kung dili, sayang au na ug mu expire.

    either way, dagko bya ug profit ng mga telco, so dapat lang pud mudugang silag equipment para maka-handle sa ilang load. dili mag sobrag dinalo ba.
    100peso load mo expire in 2weeks? hehehe...in one month pila bro? 200pesos ra...

    kwentaha ang atong internet connection.
    in one month nagbayad ta ug not less then 1thousand, nigamit ka o wala you have to pay 1thousand or more...kanang atong mga landline nganong mobayad man gyud ta ug 600 to 800pesos in a month? di ba mahal ra pud na? kanang PLDT landline plus, 300pesos a month mogamit ka or dili di ba mahal ra pud na? kay nganong kan-on imong load nga 300pesos bisan wala ka nigamit...

    dapat reklamo pud unta ta ani ngano nga mahal kaayo ang internet...ato pud ni ipa explain ngano nga 1thousand in one month man...

    kung ganahan gyud ta manaog or mausab na ila pama-agi sa pag charge sa atong usage...angay nga magkahiusa ta tanan...dili ta mogamit ug cellphone in one month, inig peak season(pasko ug new year) dili ta mogamit ug cellphone....di ba mangawas na ang mga promo nga mga more FREEbies... di ba nahimo man ni nato sa una, sa dihang wala pay cellphone o internet. hehehe


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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by hacxcena View Post
    That's why the government is already looking into the books of oil companies also kay dako man kaau sila og profit why man na dili nila pwede ipa ubsan lang gamay ilang pump prices aron lang sad mo ubos ilang price per liter for the benefit of all the people in the Philippines. If you are a good businessman you will not look only into your own welfare you have to look also the welfare of the public.

    hehehe...but where is the report? so, the govt is dictating the oil companies on how much they should earn or how much should be their profit?

    you might not be aware but these companies are doing their share in giving back to the community specifically the less fortunate. Dili lang na always mabutang sa newspaper ang ila mga activities.

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  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by k.A.i View Post
    unsa may labot sa akong OS sa atong topic?
    tag-ana licensed ba toink....

    btw, nakapalit diay ka ug cellular system bro? kay nakabasa man ka
    paki explain nganung magbayad man ug license ang mga telecoms sa mga cell companies,
    sa sim license ba ...
    you did not get it...
    the point is... ang license mahal. wala ka mahali sa imong OS license?
    OS ra na sa PC bro...pila kaha ang license sa OS sa usa ka cellular network?
    Dili man na pareha sa PC nga maru-maru ta, buy one license and copy it on multiple PCs...

    hehehe...are you willing to pay if I explain more?
    mag conduct ta ug one day seminar on GSM/UMTS networks...5thousand pesos per head. OK ra nimo?
    tingalig mo question na pud unya ka nganong 5thousand pesos...mahal ra?


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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by k.A.i View Post
    naa bay differenceor dako ba kung ang sulod sa switch usa ra or daghan? in terms sa curyente ug maintenance?
    cooling requirements sa usa ka switch will cost almost one-half sa electric bill. Dili pud puede i-cut down ang imong cooling kay mag sige ug kaguba ang mga components sa switch...mo mahal pud ang imong spares maintenance cost...

    whether you only have one subscriber or upto capacity, cooling requirements will be the same.
    but when you expand, you have to add another switch...so another cooling system, another manpower requirement.

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