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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    you don't get it bro, the act of man/male is already ADULTERY.
    Those verses clearly showing not to do what others do that will sent their soul to lake of fire.

    get the point.

    In the bible even a man will just look to a woman that has a bad intention to their heart is considered adultery already how much more if you take another woman.

    PEace!
    adultery lagi ang bana,wala man ko supak ana...unya kay si wife ganahan man mag minyo ug lain nga buhi pa ang bana....if iya na buhaton, nahisupak na siya sa imo gi quote nga verses? di ba?

    kadto ako twist bro rcruman,
    if babaye ang gikabit sa bana...adultery na.
    unya kay lalaki man ang gikabit sa bana...unsay tawag ana?

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    youre taking these verses literally.
    Its not the physical eye and hands intawon bro.
    in these verses the one to be plucked or cut are the things that your eyes loved and hands.
    SO kung ang imo mata ang sigeg tan-aw sa babae aw kuhaa ang mata nga nagsigeg tan-aw, makaya ba nimo nga kuhaon ang imo mata? ang pasabot ani kay ang interest sa imo mata maoy kuhaon nimo or interest sa imo kamot maoy imo putlon. Ayaw na tan-aw sa babae nga dunay dautang tinguha og ayaw na pangawat mao na ang naa sa verse.
    Peace!
    nganong lisud lisoron man intawn na ug sabot nga klaro man kaayo na sa verse oi.
    kung dili ka motan-aw...duolon man ka beh. kung dili ka maghubo...ikaw man ang hubo-an beh.
    kung dili ka mohikap...ikaw man ang pahikapon beh...
    mao nga tataw gyud kaayo na nga lugiton ang mata ug putlon ang bukton/kamot...para dili na ka makabuhat sa ingon.

  3. #43

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    "32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
    Matthew 5:32"

    "causeth her to commit adultery"


    So maka sala japon ang babaye... tungod sa gi buhat ni husband...... IF she will marry again..

    Og kung kinsay makig menyo sa babaye Commits adultery also...

    "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."


    Og na hulog ni nawalay lutsanan, kay ang marriage is not intended to break up...


    You can only escape adultery when your husband or wife is dead.....

    Mao ni sa akong nasabtan



    sa mga gusto mo contradict basaha lang ninyo:
    http://marriage.embassyofheaven.com/mvsa.htm


  4. #44

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    psssst.. give the girl happiness that she deserved.

  5. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO
    psssst.. give the girl happiness that she deserved.
    thnks

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO
    psssst.. give the girl happiness that she deserved.
    nasyo, nagmata man kag morning or pataka man kag sulod.
    Remember balik sa first niya nga statement, nangayo siyag tambag.
    So We're showing her biblical views pero kung dili niya madawat aw iya man ng kinabuhi.
    Walay namugos niya dinhi nga tumanon ang amo advise.


    Pero basi sa iya situation kay puede gyud siya magminyo kay ang iya man bana ang nangabit og dili siya so wala siyay tulubagon sa Ginoo.
    Ang babae nga nipatol sa iya bana kay nakasala pud og adultery.

    Peace!

  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams
    adultery lagi ang bana,wala man ko supak ana...unya kay si wife ganahan man mag minyo ug lain nga buhi pa ang bana....if iya na buhaton, nahisupak na siya sa imo gi quote nga verses? di ba?
    bro basahag balik ang verse kay murag bag-o paka mata.
    Ang babae kay dili makasala kay ang iya man bana ang nangabit. basaha balik aron mahilom ka gamay.

    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams
    kadto ako twist bro rcruman,
    if babaye ang gikabit sa bana...adultery na.
    unya kay lalaki man ang gikabit sa bana...unsay tawag ana?
    Aw iya sala kay adultery plus sala sa pagpatol sa isig kaingon (same ***).

    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams
    hangtud buhi pa ang bana, si asawa maka sala gihapon(adultery) if maminyo siya ug usab nga buhi pa ang bana.
    ang bana man imo gihisgotan bro, ang situation sa thread starter ang tan-awa.
    bro ang naa sa ROmans 7 kay ang babae ang gusto nga magminyo og usab or mangitag lain.
    SO ang situasyon nga makaminyo siyag balik kay kinahanglan :
    1. Patay ang iya bana
    2. Nangabit iya bana

    ang biblia man gud bro kay sumpay-sumpay na siya, ayaw focus sa usa ka verse og himuon nimog complicated.

    basaha ang mga verses sa Matthew og isumpay ang ROmans 7 kay aron naa kay complete picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams
    hangtud buhi pa ang bana...
    if maminyo siya ug usab nga buhi pa iya bana...she is called an adulteress.
    bro sa matthew kay ang babae maoy nakasala, here read gani og hinayhinay aron naa kay idea:

    32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

    kay ang babae dinhi naka commit pud og adultery.


    Quote Originally Posted by leo_trams
    hahaha...dili man ko pastor bro...ordinary tawo ra man ko.
    walal pud ko plano nga mahimo nga pastor.
    Lisod na ang pastor bro rcruman...karon pa lang gani nga ordinary tawo ra ko, magkabuang man gani ta ug balibad...hihihihi
    Bro usa ra ang Pastor, si Christ ra.

    Peace!

  8. #48

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    I'm not a lawyer, but I think I dug up an interesting site on the Internet, and here are some quotes and personal summaries from the site, http://www.gtalawphil.com/family_law3.htm.


    Psychological Incapacity

    1. It is not necessarily insanity, but a serious (enough) psychological disorder where a spouse is proven truly incapable of complying with the essential marital obligations. It's a narcissitic (in love with self only, i.e. very selfish) and an anti-social personality disorder.

    2. The essential marital obligations are

    2.1 to live together, observe mutual love, respect and fidelity, and render mutual help and support;

    2.2 to procreate children based on the universal principle that procreation of children through sexual cooperation is the basic end of marriage;

    2.3 to jointly support the family (Art. 70), for the spouses are joint administrators in the partnership; and 2.4 Not to commit acts which will bring danger, dishonor or injury to each other or to the family (Art. 72), for the safety and security of the family at all times is a primordial duty of the spouses

    3. Some examples of psychological incapacity are

    3.1. By the refusal of one spouse to live, dwell and cohabit with the other after marriage, without any fault at all from the aggrieved spouse.

    3.2. By the deliberate refusal to give support to the other spouse, or their common children

    3.3. When marriage is unbearable due to the compulsive gambling, alcoholism, drug addiction or violent tantrums and jealousy leading to physical abuse towards the other and of the children of the respondent spouse

    4. The legal basis for this is Article 36 of the Family Code, which states that "A marriage contracted by any party who, at the time of the celebration, was psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage, shall likewise be void even if such incapacity becomes manifest only after its solemnization.”
    [http://www.gtalawphil.com/Philippine...t%20101_4.htm]


    Supreme Court Guidelines for proving Psychological Incapacity

    1. The burden of proof to show nullity of the marriage belongs to the plaintiff and any doubt must be resolved in favor of the existence of marriage and against its nullity.

    2. The root cause of the psychological incapacity must be:

    a. medically or clinically identified;
    b. alleged in the complaint;
    c. sufficiently proven by experts; and
    d. clearly explained in the decision

    3. Incapacity must be proven to be existing at “the time of the celebration” of the marriage, although the manifestation need not be perceivable at such time.

    4. Such incapacity must also be shown to be medically or clinically permanent or incurable, although the incurability may be relative only in regard to the other spouse, not necessarily absolute against everyone of the same ***. Furthermore, the incapacity must be relevant to the assumption of marriage obligations, not to those not related to marriage like the exercise of profession or employment in a job.

    5. Such illness must be grave enough to bring about the disability of the party to assume the essential obligations of marriage.

    6. The essential marital obligations must be those embraced by Articles 68 to 71 of the Family Code as regards the husband and wife as well as Articles 220, 221, and 225 of the same code in regards to parents and their children. Such non-compliance must also be stated in the petition, proven by evidence, and included in the text of the decision.

    7. Interpretations given by the National Appellate Matrimonial Tribunal of the Catholic Church in the Philippines, while not controlling or decisive, should be given great respect by our courts.

    8. The trial court must order the fiscal and the Solicitor General to appear as counsel for the state. No decision shall be handed down unless the Solicitor General issues a certification, which will be quoted in the decision, briefly stating therein his reasons for his agreement or opposition, as the case may be, to the petition. The Solicitor General, along with the prosecuting attorney, shall submit to the court such certification within fifteen (15) days from the date the case is deemed submitted for resolution of the court.
    [http://www.gtalawphil.com/Philippine...t%20101_5.htm]


    Proceedings

    1. Petitioner files a Petition for Annulment of Marriage before the Office of the Executive Clerk of Court of the Regional Court (per address of the petitioner)

    Only one of the spouses must file this, and without informing the other, lest the case be dismissed on the grounds of collusion (sabwatan).

    This may be filed without having alleged an expert.

    2.The Office of Executive Clerk of Court schedules the raffling of the Petition for assignment of the case to the Family Court of the Regional Trial Court

    This is usually done every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday.

    3. The Clerk of Court of the Regional Trial Court assigned in the case issues Summons to the respondent spouse

    4. Respondent spouse files his/her Answer to the Petition

    5. Referral of the case for case study to a social worker (optional)

    6. The Court sets the case for Pre- Trial conference

    7. Pre-Trial Conference

    8. Referral to the Mediator (optional)

    9. Termination of Pre-Trial Conference and Pre-Trial Order

    10. Trial Proper

    11. Submission of Memoranda

    12. Decision

    13. Motion for Reconsideration (if filed for)

    14. Appeal (if #13 above happened)

    To be done within 15 days of the decision.

    15. Finality of the Decision

    Decision is final after 15 days from notice to the parties if no appeal is made.

    16. Issuance of the Decree of Annulment

    The whole thing might take about 1 1/2 years to about 2 years.
    [http://www.gtalawphil.com/annulment_1.htm]

    This is neither an endorsement on annulment nor of the law office that provided the website these quotes are from. I am in no way connected with this law office.

  9. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by jancemsy
    "32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
    Matthew 5:32"

    "causeth her to commit adultery"


    So maka sala japon ang babaye... tungod sa gi buhat ni husband...... IF she will marry again..

    Og kung kinsay makig menyo sa babaye Commits adultery also...

    "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."


    Og na hulog ni nawalay lutsanan, kay ang marriage is not intended to break up...


    You can only escape adultery when your husband or wife is dead.....

    Mao ni sa akong nasabtan



    sa mga gusto mo contradict basaha lang ninyo:
    http://marriage.embassyofheaven.com/mvsa.htm


    yah sakto jud noh ive made a solemn commitement that i have to stick with him under any circumstances...i know somehow naa koy pagkulang in some aspects in our marriage but i dont want to devalue myself or lose my dignity again by going after him coz i did that already but i didnt work...i just hope and pray that he would come to his senses...

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoseph
    I'm not a lawyer, but I think I dug up an interesting site on the Internet, and here are some quotes and personal summaries from the site, http://www.gtalawphil.com/family_law3.htm.


    Psychological Incapacity

    1. It is not necessarily insanity, but a serious (enough) psychological disorder where a spouse is proven truly incapable of complying with the essential marital obligations. It's a narcissitic (in love with self only, i.e. very selfish) and an anti-social personality disorder.

    2. The essential marital obligations are

    2.1 to live together, observe mutual love, respect and fidelity, and render mutual help and support;

    2.2 to procreate children based on the universal principle that procreation of children through sexual cooperation is the basic end of marriage;

    2.3 to jointly support the family (Art. 70), for the spouses are joint administrators in the partnership; and 2.4 Not to commit acts which will bring danger, dishonor or injury to each other or to the family (Art. 72), for the safety and security of the family at all times is a primordial duty of the spouses

    3. Some examples of psychological incapacity are

    3.1. By the refusal of one spouse to live, dwell and cohabit with the other after marriage, without any fault at all from the aggrieved spouse.

    3.2. By the deliberate refusal to give support to the other spouse, or their common children

    3.3. When marriage is unbearable due to the compulsive gambling, alcoholism, drug addiction or violent tantrums and jealousy leading to physical abuse towards the other and of the children of the respondent spouse

    4. The legal basis for this is Article 36 of the Family Code, which states that "A marriage contracted by any party who, at the time of the celebration, was psychologically incapacitated to comply with the essential marital obligations of marriage, shall likewise be void even if such incapacity becomes manifest only after its solemnization.”
    [http://www.gtalawphil.com/Philippine...t%20101_4.htm]


    Supreme Court Guidelines for proving Psychological Incapacity

    1. The burden of proof to show nullity of the marriage belongs to the plaintiff and any doubt must be resolved in favor of the existence of marriage and against its nullity.

    2. The root cause of the psychological incapacity must be:

    a. medically or clinically identified;
    b. alleged in the complaint;
    c. sufficiently proven by experts; and
    d. clearly explained in the decision

    3. Incapacity must be proven to be existing at “the time of the celebration” of the marriage, although the manifestation need not be perceivable at such time.

    4. Such incapacity must also be shown to be medically or clinically permanent or incurable, although the incurability may be relative only in regard to the other spouse, not necessarily absolute against everyone of the same ***. Furthermore, the incapacity must be relevant to the assumption of marriage obligations, not to those not related to marriage like the exercise of profession or employment in a job.

    5. Such illness must be grave enough to bring about the disability of the party to assume the essential obligations of marriage.

    6. The essential marital obligations must be those embraced by Articles 68 to 71 of the Family Code as regards the husband and wife as well as Articles 220, 221, and 225 of the same code in regards to parents and their children. Such non-compliance must also be stated in the petition, proven by evidence, and included in the text of the decision.

    7. Interpretations given by the National Appellate Matrimonial Tribunal of the Catholic Church in the Philippines, while not controlling or decisive, should be given great respect by our courts.

    8. The trial court must order the fiscal and the Solicitor General to appear as counsel for the state. No decision shall be handed down unless the Solicitor General issues a certification, which will be quoted in the decision, briefly stating therein his reasons for his agreement or opposition, as the case may be, to the petition. The Solicitor General, along with the prosecuting attorney, shall submit to the court such certification within fifteen (15) days from the date the case is deemed submitted for resolution of the court.
    [http://www.gtalawphil.com/Philippine...t%20101_5.htm]


    Proceedings

    1. Petitioner files a Petition for Annulment of Marriage before the Office of the Executive Clerk of Court of the Regional Court (per address of the petitioner)

    Only one of the spouses must file this, and without informing the other, lest the case be dismissed on the grounds of collusion (sabwatan).

    This may be filed without having alleged an expert.

    2.The Office of Executive Clerk of Court schedules the raffling of the Petition for assignment of the case to the Family Court of the Regional Trial Court

    This is usually done every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday.

    3. The Clerk of Court of the Regional Trial Court assigned in the case issues Summons to the respondent spouse

    4. Respondent spouse files his/her Answer to the Petition

    5. Referral of the case for case study to a social worker (optional)

    6. The Court sets the case for Pre- Trial conference

    7. Pre-Trial Conference

    8. Referral to the Mediator (optional)

    9. Termination of Pre-Trial Conference and Pre-Trial Order

    10. Trial Proper

    11. Submission of Memoranda

    12. Decision

    13. Motion for Reconsideration (if filed for)

    14. Appeal (if #13 above happened)

    To be done within 15 days of the decision.

    15. Finality of the Decision

    Decision is final after 15 days from notice to the parties if no appeal is made.

    16. Issuance of the Decree of Annulment

    The whole thing might take about 1 1/2 years to about 2 years.
    [http://www.gtalawphil.com/annulment_1.htm]

    This is neither an endorsement on annulment nor of the law office that provided the website these quotes are from. I am in no way connected with this law office.


    hala noh hasol man d i kaayo mag pa annul...but anyway thanks for the information..

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