MERGED: MILF-GRP Peace Process, Related Issues and Developments

[emow]

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Kinig Patriotism and Protectionism should go hand in hand ....

We will protect our economy by Filipino First Product Mentality that is Patriotism bahala na ug gutomon ta tanan ...

Going to War to protect our beloved mindanao from Muslim Rebel Rampage is also an Act of Patriotism balana na ug Mangamatay tang Tanan ...

Protect economy by buying Filipino First Product is a good idea.... but what exactly does that mean? We can raise the national capital by buying our own products? true.... but what if the purchasing power of the citizens has been drained by war? more likely that will happen than not... hunger knows no allegiance, and the masses will be prone for black propaganda against the government... civil war can break lose.... war must be calculated to the detail so that there is something left to protect when the debt collectors will demand for their money when all the dusts of war settles down.... I suggest our economic specialists will be included in the planning of war... hugtanay tas bakus ani...

[pacifico]

Nanunsa na man ng dapita..Kagubot biya diha..
Manglayas pana sili diha ato sila sa Indonesia kay majority didto muslims di man kaha sila ganahan naay musagol nila..Mas dako man ta tong lugara kay sa pilipinas. I think they can't accept the fact that muslim religion in the philippines is outnumbered and overruned mao na gusto nila ma control ang usa ka lugar..Kinsa may ganahan na sila magka substate sa pilipinas..Ganahan ba ta naay manglupad nga missiles pariha sa Israel.

[amingb]

Protect economy by buying Filipino First Product is a good idea.... but what exactly does that mean? We can raise the national capital by buying our own products? true.... but what if the purchasing power of the citizens has been drained by war? more likely that will happen than not... hunger knows no allegiance, and the masses will be prone for black propaganda against the government... civil war can break lose.... war must be calculated to the detail so that there is something left to protect when the debt collectors will demand for their money when all the dusts of war settles down.... I suggest our economic specialists will be included in the planning of war... hugtanay tas bakus ani...

IF we will engaged to War with the MILF i think our purchasing power will still remain ... MILF areas in mindanao is so Small puede gani na One Week lang humana ang Gubat ... and the People of Mindanao will be vigilant for any Moro Retaliation ....

[amingb]

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Mao ni gi ingon nga ang Atong President Did2 Ling Laban sa Contra ... Ang Iyahang mga tawo maoy sad-an ...

[amingb]

Nanunsa na man ng dapita..Kagubot biya diha..
Manglayas pana sili diha ato sila sa Indonesia kay majority didto muslims di man kaha sila ganahan naay musagol nila..Mas dako man ta tong lugara kay sa pilipinas. I think they can't accept the fact that muslim religion in the philippines is outnumbered and overruned mao na gusto nila ma control ang usa ka lugar..Kinsa may ganahan na sila magka substate sa pilipinas..Ganahan ba ta naay manglupad nga missiles pariha sa Israel.

Dili na ingon ana bro ... legit na ang demand sa mga Moro People for independence ... there is no win-win solution in mindanao ...

[black_mamba]

Bai aware mi tanan that you really abhor our current president and maybe because you still haven't move on sa pagkapildi sa imong manok, imoha pud na. But your comment doesn't in any way help the situation.. Aron makasabot ka, consider a comment from an officer:

"For once and for all, we (AFP) should admit first that there had been operational lapses that led to this
incident.

Bago ngayon magagalit tayo sa Presidente kung ayaw nya makipag-gyera?

Hindi kasing simple ng pag-lalaro sa computer game ang all-out-war.

Yung nangyari na yun sa mga SF tingin ko hindi yun dapat kung nakapag-plano lang sila ng maigi.

SF nga sila, they were properly trained, yes.

But Basilan is a very very different theater.

Kahit ano pa mang unit ka galing, or kahit anong rango mo, kung baguhan ka lang dyan mag-iingat ka.

The whole Island is an Enemy itself. The people you talk to today can point a gun in your head tomorrow.

Remember the beheaded Marines?

All along they (Marine Commanders) knew who perpetrated the be-headings and the worst part of it was, the
mastermind was not whom you would have thought it was.

And then came the BATASAN Bombing.

What came out of the investigation of the Batasan Bombing?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I'm not putting this issue back because I'm a soldier who wants war.

I would want war if the whole of Mindanao is in the brink of being overrun by the rebels.
But the Basilan incident was a failure of the AFP itself. Lessons are not being learned because
we are fool enough to deny any failures in the past.

Politics have tainted the Military culture for decades, and it continues to do so especially in Mindanao.
Madaming bulok ang sistema doon, kaya hindi matigil tigil ang gulo dahil kahit sino bulok ang sistema.

Pumunta tayo sa gyera kung wala na tayong bulok sa sarili nating bakuran, pero kung makikipag-gyera tayo ng
nanatiling ganito ang prinsipyo natin eh tama si Pnoy, sayang lang ang gastos, pagod, buhay ng mga sundalo.

Ayusin muna natin ang bakuran natin. Bago lang ang Army sa Basilan, hindi ko alam kung ano anong
nasa isip nila sa mga ginagawa nila dun, pero hindi yata katanggap tanggap ang isuong mo sa panganib ang
mga bagito mong tao. Matagal nang hayop ang mga tao doon, mga pinuno nila mga oportunista at ganid din sa pera.

Sa parte ng ARMY ayoko nang magsalita, sana mali ang iniisip ko pero marami na akong alam sa mga ganyang bagay.
sana hindi sila naging oportunista na nagresulta sa trahedya."

from Alpha Charlie of Timawa.net

kani maoy para nku pinaka saktong tubag..

in times likes this, pued ba nato e set aside atong mga political views?
hate and pointing fingers will do no good at all.. it won't even help the current situation.. and it won't bring back the dead...

kita kusog kaayo ta musaway.. ato sang paminawn ang mas nkabaw sa situation.. ang nka experience jud unsay gubat.. which is atong mga kasundaluhan..

unsa may alamag nato parti ana nga civilian rman ta... the least we can do is to support our troops.. motivate them instead.. if a war breaks out for example for sure dghan jud masamdan.. they will need blood.. ako im willing to donate.. its the least that we can do..

im no PNOY supporter and i do support an all out war... pero i think it needs a lot of planning... can't waste another precious life... dghan pa kaayo problema ang pilipinas ni.abot pjud ning gubat sa mindanao.. our president is no superman..

[amingb]

Naay daw bag-o Project ang Pnoy Administration ... Housing Para sa atong mga Marines ug mga Special Forces .....

Six Feet Below the Ground ... naa sa Libingan nga mga Bayani ....

[emow]

IF we will engaged to War with the MILF i think our purchasing power will still remain ... MILF areas in mindanao is so Small puede gani na One Week lang humana ang Gubat ... and the People of Mindanao will be vigilant for any Moro Retaliation ....

Well bai, if one week ra, minimal ra ang effects..... hopefully its that easy... that's why the leaders must be very detailed in their strategy to cut the war as short as possible... if ma prolong ang all out war, that's where mu gamay atong purchasing power.... history tells us, no one can predict the length of wars.... the war between Confederates and Union in the American civil war was expected to last for weeks....but it ended in several years.... Hopefully, MILF can be extinguished in weeks...at least around 200billion ra magasto ba...

[amingb]

Well bai, if one week ra, minimal ra ang effects..... hopefully its that easy... that's why the leaders must be very detailed in their strategy to cut the war as short as possible... if ma prolong ang all out war, that's where mu gamay atong purchasing power.... history tells us, no one can predict the length of wars.... the war between Confederates and Union in the American civil war was expected to last for weeks....but it ended in several years.... Hopefully, MILF can be extinguished in weeks...at least around 200billion ra magasto ba...

Dili mabayran ang Kalinaw sa kuarta bro ...

[YellowSubmarine]

na lisod kau pagpildi within one week oi.. pinakamubo na guro na ang one month.. kato bitaw kang erap sauna kung wa ko masayop 1month man to estimate nila pero pila man to kabulan? Gamay ra kaau ta ug sundalo din dako-dako ang area.. bukid.. lasang.. lisod jud.