Evolution Original Sin and Everything in Between in Harmony?

[mr.ho_chia2]

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if your asking me sir, i can't answer you........... poor me. hehe

[vladmire]

i only meant that for those fundies who try to preach that they have the free will to bug everybody on a bus by preaching their bible and passing around a box asking for donations...and hiacking a thread turning it to a sermon for the non-believers.

anyway...

"Anger", to me, is such an exhausting emotion. Plus there are good, kind religious people in my life who don't deserve my anger. thats why I find it's more rewarding to treat religion as a joke instead of an insult.

this is not personal.
and this is a discussion. stick with the topic.

why they cant link the O'sin with adam..if adam evolved?

then make a new topic, perhaps someone in this forum will be able to answer that question.

[anti-christ]

then make a new topic, perhaps someone in this forum will be able to answer that question.

is there something wrong with you?

Re: Evolution Original Sin and Everything in Between in Harmony?

read the thread title!

[Keldricus]

Evolution is a theory, yes, but it has fossil records; while Creationism has a single book for 'evidence'. These are two separate views on rise of mankind. The article holds the view "that a given thing did develop from a previous state or form, but that this process was under God’s guidance", which is Intelligent Design; a hybrid of the two - which has been "unkindly described as Creationism in a cheap tuxedo".
Maybe they can't link original sin and the evolved Adam because they haven't made up a plausible rationalization yet! Maybe Adam had a half-evolved brain and didn't quite get the instructions not to eat from this specific tree and so committed original sin? It didn't explain the talking snake either - that's evolution? or maybe Adam was a Parseltongue? Imagine the possibilities!

[Cardinal Bunal]

Parseltongue si Adam or posible nga figurative ra to ang snake...

No! original sin did not evolve kay its a "spiritual concept" though genes gradually mutated, that's why it's black, its white, its black, its white, its hard for you to go yeah, yeah, yeah.

ambot basta kang michael jackson to nga theory.

[Serene]

I don't believe in Original Sin...sorry.

I don't think it's fair na lain tao nasayop, ako ang mubayad. I mean, your grandpa committed murder and you are put to death by lethal injection. How fair is that? I believe that God is merciful and fair.

[kalanrakas]

I don't believe in Original Sin...sorry.

I don't think it's fair na lain tao nasayop, ako ang mubayad. I mean, your grandpa committed murder and you are put to death by lethal injection. How fair is that? I believe that God is merciful and fair.

Correct. I agree with your "culprit" theory. However, the god of the bible is not a merciful god. He destroyed his creation and exterminated his children several times. Had he been human, he is a psycho serial killer and has no place in civilized society. While I'm against death penalty, I would be the first to condemn him to die.

All I'm saying is that the concept of original sin is just being true to the form of the vengeful, jealous, egotistic and murdering biblical god.

[anti-christ]

Evolution is a theory, yes, but it has fossil records; while Creationism has a single book for 'evidence'. These are two separate views on rise of mankind. The article holds the view "that a given thing did develop from a previous state or form, but that this process was under God’s guidance", which is Intelligent Design; a hybrid of the two - which has been "unkindly described as Creationism in a cheap tuxedo".
Maybe they can't link original sin and the evolved Adam because they haven't made up a plausible rationalization yet! Maybe Adam had a half-evolved brain and didn't quite get the instructions not to eat from this specific tree and so committed original sin? It didn't explain the talking snake either - that's evolution? or maybe Adam was a Parseltongue? Imagine the possibilities!

those church fundies now making pseudo-theories...more like getting evidences right up their a**.
thats what you get when you put too much bullcrap and cover them with crap and present them as scientific.hehehe it stinks.

All I'm saying is that the concept of original sin is just being true to the form of the vengeful, jealous, egotistic and murdering biblical god.

if you ask me,
why did god demand death of his only son for that? why couldn't he have saved humanity anyway without his son resorting to suicide?

that is one bloodthirsty egomaniac there.

[mr.ho_chia2]

nope it was not suicide. it was a payment for our sins.

Because God is Holy and Just, that's the nature of GOD.

If your a just person with a strong character........ would you allow yourself not to pay your debt? well, the japanese and the chinese won't.

then how much more GOD. He is just. and therefore it is but fitting that a payment has to be done. and because HE loved us so much, HE was willing to give up His life for our sake.

isn't that great. HE is so mindful of us, even though we reject and dislike HIM, he still continue to call upon us. what a great GOD indeed.

[mr.ho_chia2]

I don't believe in Original Sin...sorry.

I don't think it's fair na lain tao nasayop, ako ang mubayad. I mean, your grandpa committed murder and you are put to death by lethal injection. How fair is that? I believe that God is merciful and fair.

mura pud cya a mother who tried to abort her baby but failed pag-gawas pungkol, is that fair? it's really unfair to the max ma'am, but we can't do anything, we inherited it.

kana pud datu sa una ato ancetors but napordoy na kay gi-gamble sa atong lolo sa casino, pagkatao nato pobre ta, is that fair? nope, but we will inherit our parents legacy.

but wait unlike other inheritance, there is a way out from the original sin. Christ paid for it, isn't it amazing ma'am, instead to be born with it and suffer for eternity, GOD gave a solution from HIS Mega plan. HE thought of us while we were still not. amazing GOD or what?

Indeed Great GOD.