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    Quote Originally Posted by Alel View Post
    That is, if "God" exist...
    GOD doesn't exist. I'm sure I'm not aware whether there is GOD or not! I don't care! GOD exists! Now I'm paying attention!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrizekirsten View Post
    the obeserver and the observe. This statement is a fact. A reality experience by those who had passed the First Great initiation.
    so, who observes the observer, cardinal j?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    GOD doesn't exist. I'm sure I'm not aware whether there is GOD or not! I don't care! GOD exists! Now I'm paying attention!
    Paying attention with an expectation of what you are to be aware of...

    You know as a psychology major what happens..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alel View Post
    Paying attention with an expectation of what you are to be aware of...

    You know as a psychology major what happens..
    Exactly!

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    When you begin to doubt everything you see, you probably have too much free time, he he.
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    On the other hand, this keyboard and this monitor is real to me. So is this forum, and I do not doubt it. That whatever this is that I am a part of (i.e. universe), it does not need my active attention for it to continue existing. When I sleep and later wake up, I notice that some things have not changed, and some did. Some of this things that changed, I could not possibly have done on my sleep, even if I was a somnambulist (or sleep-walker, which I'm not). I could not even remember what I ate last month, let alone sustain everything.

    There is therefore an existence that is independent of myself. I also notice that I could not witness everything all at once, and that I only have a partial view each time. This is my view of existence, which is my reality.

    And so existence is both actuality (what truly is) that is impersonal and reality (the report of individual consciousness) that is personal.

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    nalingaw ko sa mga initial posts. the third eye post should be merged here as well. lol

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    if reality does not exist if one is not observing it, could it be that reality is also relative?

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    ^^ it always is bai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    if reality does not exist if one is not observing it, could it be that reality is also relative?



    shadows of the Real things, we call realities
    shadows of the real observer, we call the observer

    only when the two shadows be brought to light "as it is", seeing things as they are" including the observer, then & only then,,,,the i dont know will ,,,,,i dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    shadows of the Real things, we call realities
    shadows of the real observer, we call the observer

    only when the two shadows be brought to light "as it is", seeing things as they are" including the observer, then & only then,,,,the i dont know will ,,,,,i dont know
    hmm, makes sense mr.fish.

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