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  1. #31

    hate commission gyud hehe

    naa na judiciary and congress magtukod pa gyud ug lain, redundant lang gyud. cut2x pa ug budget sa judiciary lol hilig gyud ni si penoy usik2x ug kwarta... instead of one presidential spokeman nag create pa ug presidential communication group, wa pa gyud nakontento ang spokeman naa pay spokeman lol.

  2. #32
    sa tan aw nako....personalan ning kang noy2..iya ning gi push ang otot commission para pakauwawan ang previous admin....c davide sad ni sakai sa pagpa oplok ni noy2....

  3. #33
    c noy2 pataka lang butang og mga taw sa taas nga positions...wa jud sila kabw og unsai ilang functions....

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    wa pa kaget over si noy sa iya kasuko ni gloria, the same as wa pa kagetover ang mga green supporters nagcoment dinhi sa kapildihon sa ila manok. hehehehe.

    hate commission = hate commenters = what again is the difference?

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    daghan barbero diri sa torya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by em_b View Post
    wa pa kaget over si noy sa iya kasuko ni gloria, the same as wa pa kagetover ang mga green supporters nagcoment dinhi sa kapildihon sa ila manok. hehehehe.

    hate commission = hate commenters = what again is the difference?
    Green Supporters? Gibo was not the only opponent of Noynoy. Well, Gibo was the only intelligent candidate.
    A forum is made for us to comment on things, whether positive or negative.
    Furthermore, as voters, and as taxpayers, I think we also have the right to comment on our "servants".

    hate commission = hate commenters = what again is the difference?
    answer: commission is a group, commenters (or commentators) are people. hehe just kidding

    It's really okay to fight against graft and corruption, and it's really okay to go after Gloria. For as long as they (the administration) are not ridiculous with what they're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    hala likay jd...
    OT
    i know for sure you received lots of error message posting one liners

    provide more that 10chars



    unsa man ning truth oi. puno2 lng ni sa budget.

  8. #38
    Is De Lima out of her mind?

    De Lima: SC ruling vs Truth body 'political'

    The Supreme Court's decision stopping the Truth Commission from investigating alleged anomalies during the administration of former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo seems to be politically motivated, Justice Secretary Leila De Lima said on Wednesday.

    "The ruling shows characteristics of a political decision. The voting by the members of the court on political questions... readily shows that the lines which now divide decision-making in the court are principally political and no longer doctrinal," De Lima said.

    Last Tuesday, 10 of the 15 SC justices voted to declare President Benigno Aquino III's Executive Order No. 1 creating the Truth Commission as unconstitutional.

    In effect, the truth body that was supposed to investigate allegations of corruption and election fraud that hounded the Arroyo administration would not be able to perform its task.

    All 10 magistrates that voted against EO No. 1 are Arroyo appointees.

    "There is therefore basis for speculation that the 'investment' of the past administration in the... High Court is paying off," De Lima, who headed the Commission on Human Rights (CHR) during the Arroyo administration, said in a statement.

    "Present executive actions to correct injustices and abuses of the past administration and to punish the perpetrators are frustrated at every turn because of wise institutional investments of the past regime," she added.

    SC acting public information chief Gleoresty Guerra has denied that the high court ruled against the Aquino administration because most of the justices are Arroyo appointees.

    "As you can see, four of those who dissented are also appointees of Gloria Arroyo. So this means that the justices resolved the case according to what they viewed was based on the law," Guerra said last Tuesday.

    Among those who voted against EO No. 1 was Chief Justice Renato Corona, whose appointment days before the May 10 elections was questioned due to a constitutional ban on "midnight appointments" during the election season.

    But last May, majority of the SC justices ruled that Arroyo, who was still president then, can pick the successor of outgoing chief justice Reynato Puno because the chief justice post is exempt from the appointment ban.

    Referring to the appointment controversy, De Lima's statement said, "The Constitution intended to prevent a single president from packing the highest Court in the land with his or her appointees. Unfortunately, the loopholes in the Constitution prevailed when [Arroyo] appointed the majority of the present court, including the position of the chief justice despite the ban on appointments."

    The vote

    De Lima cited a "familiar line of voting" among the SC justices, whose majority recently voted in favor of Arroyo or her allies. The most recent was last September when the SC barred the House committee on justice from holding the impeachment proceedings against Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez, perceived to be a close Arroyo ally.

    "This is the evil which the Constitution intended to avoid, but which now appears to be rearing its head at the cost of frustrating the administration of justices on the abuses of the past," she said.

    Aside from Corona, those who voted to declare EO No. 1 as unconstitutional are Associate Justices Teresita Leonardo-de Castro, Arturo Brion, Presbitero Velasco, Diosdado Peralta, Lucas Bersamin, Mariano del Castillo, Martin Villarama, Jose Perez, and Jose Mendoza.

    Those who dissented were Associate Justices Antonio Carpio, Conchita Carpio-Morales, Eduardo Nachura, Roberto Abad, and Ma. Lourdes Sereno. All are Arroyo appointees, except Sereno.

    Of the five dissenters, Carpio, Carpio-Morales, and Sereno are constant dissenters in cases that have serious repercussions against Arroyo, her family, and her allies.

    Equal protection clause

    In handing down the decision, the SC said EO No. 1 violated the equal protection clause of the Constitution for singling out Arroyo and her administration.

    Section 1, Article III of the 1987 Constitution provides: "No person... shall be denied the equal protection of the laws."

    Those who questioned EO No. 1's legality said the creation of the Truth Commission violated the equal protection clause because it only targeted specific individuals for prosecution "as if corruption is their peculiar species even as it excludes those of the other administrations, past and present, who may be indictable."

    But De Lima argued that equal protection clause "applies within a class, not between a few who stole and abused."

    "The violation in equal protection is when the privileged few are effectively exempted from investigation, prosecution and punishment, while the great majority of the people continue to wallow in the murk of their crimes," she said.

    Not ‘untouchable’

    House Minority Leader Edcel Lagman on Wednesday belied claims the SC decision on EO No.1 has made Mrs. Arroyo “untouchable."

    In a press statement, Lagman said the ruling was not a set back on the Aquino administration's campaign against graft and corruption. He also said the decision did not insulate Mrs. Arroyo from the jurisdiction of investigating and prosecuting bodies.

    "The scuttling of the Truth Commission as an unconstitutional executive creation does not insulate officials of the previous administration from the jurisdiction of the Office of the Ombudsman and the Department of Justice," he said.

    According to him, the two offices are the long-existing agencies authorized to investigate and prosecute officials who are alleged to have committed venality in government.

    "What the Supreme Court decision stops is partisan hostility and political vengeance disguised as crusade against corruption, search for truth and quest for closure," he said.

    According to him, what is being set back and prohibited are discriminatory shortcuts which deny equal protection to targeted respondents.

    All persons belonging to the same class, like the sector of public functionaries of all administrations, must be equally protected by law and must be safeguarded from discrimination by government, he added.

    "Equal protection demands that all must be exposed to the same processes and rigors irrespective of administrations and periods of incumbency," Lagman said.

    Moreover, he said that while the Aquino administration has the right to file a motion for reconsideration to reverse the SC ruling, its success is far-fetched because of the lopsided voting in favor of the decision to declare the Truth Commission unconstitutional.

    "Supreme Court justices are independent jurists who are not accountable to whoever appointed them, but only to the majesty of the law, the ascendancy of conscience and the merits of a case," Lagman said.

    On the other hand, San Juan Rep. Joseph Victor Ejercito, the son of former President Joseph Estrada, slammed the SC decision.

    Former president Estrada was forced to leave Malacañang in 2001 due to corruption issues that led to the Mrs. Arroyo's assumption to the presidency.

    Rep. Ejercito said only Mrs. Arroyo and her cohorts are "the happiest persons" with the ruling.

    "Those who stood up for the truth and those who fought against corruption were charged in court and jailed, while those who plundered this nation and desecrated the rights of the Filipinos for 9 years have gone scot-free," he said in a separate press statement.


    De Lima: SC ruling vs Truth body 'political' - Nation - GMANews.TV - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by em_b View Post
    hate commission = hate commenters = what again is the difference?
    hangtod karon puros ra gihapon hate comments against gloria ipa gawas ni noy2x aron mo saka iya ratings

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey360 View Post
    Is De Lima out of her mind?

    De Lima: SC ruling vs Truth body 'political'
    I think De Lima should admit that EO1 is indeed a failure. Still, no technical argument is presented on the side of the administration.
    They can have the congress make its job to create the commission. I think it's not a headache on their part 'coz they have the majority.

    Here's more:
    Maceda wants Ochoa's head to roll Yahoo Philippines
    MANILA, Philippines – A former senator on Tuesday called for the resignation of those who drafted Executive Order 1 that created the Truth Commission after it was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

    They include Executive Secretary Paquito "Jojo" Ochoa Jr. and presidential legal counsel Ed de Mesa.

    In his 50 years of experience in government, beginning with the regime of former President Ferdinand Marcos, former Sen. Ernesto Maceda said he cannot believe the mistakes made by the officials surrounding President Benigno Aquino III.

    "Kasalanan naman iyan ng mga nag-draft [ng executive order]," he said. "Aba eh, parang... strike 3 na sila. Mahiya naman sila."

    Maceda cited Memorandum Circular No. 1, which declared vacant the positions of non-career officials and Executive Order No. 2, which deals with the so-called midnight appointees of then-President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, as among the errors made by Ochoa and de Mesa.

    He also included in the list the presidential proclamation on amnesty for rebels, which failed to specify that it needs the approval of Congress, before it can be implemented.

    Maceda, who was an executive secretary himself, also wonders why the members of the Truth Commission are in a hurry to get their budget and begin work even if they knew that there was a question about the legality of the commission.

    "They should now... hide themselves in shame because as former Supreme Court justices, more than anybody else, they should have been on notice," he said.

    President Benigno Aquino III appointed former Chief Justice Hilario Davide to head the Truth Commission while former SC justices Flerida Ruth P. Romero and Romeo J. Callejo, Sr. are members.

    University of the Philippines College of Public Administration Prof. Edna Co agreed with Maceda.

    "Papel ng executive secretaries sa Malacañang, iyong patakbuhin kung ano iyong dapat gumulong na patakaran at siya dapat ang... tinatawag natin, siya iyong tumitingin sa likod ng Pangulo," she said.

    Co expressed disappointment on the SC's decision that declared the Truth Commission unconstitutional.

    She said it could have brought to light big corruption cases under the Arroyo administration.

    Both of them also agree with Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, who earlier said that Aquino had surrounded himself with inexperienced officials.

    Sen. Joker Arroyo, a former executive secretary during the Corazon Aquino adminsitration, is now worried that rejection of the Truth Commission could serve as another flashpoint between the Palace and Supreme Court, to the detriment of the country. – Report from Henry Omaga-Diaz, ABS-CBN News; ANC

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