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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<


    @fatsu

    ah mao diay na if 250 watts imo load then 300 watts imo supply ilisdan nimo ug mas dako na supply mo bugnaw ang imong system = you really dont understand what ariel said, you just reversed the idea just like what you replied to me, you just answered your own question. he meant that if the required is 250W and your going to apply 350W or higher, its okay though higher wattage has higher temperature so it can affect a bit the room space temperature of your cpu box, understand now?

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    sorry you didn't get my point. 250 watts reqd on a 300 watts psu means higher temps compared to a 250 watts on a 450 watts psu. he is saying that ang excess kay ma convert into heat which is dili ingon ana ang case. i don't have Laws that support my experience. as RUELNOV said.
    "kon duna pai mo-argue ani, see me in person nalang and i will explain in detail why."

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    Quote Originally Posted by ruelnov
    Quote Originally Posted by fatsu
    @[A]riel: ah mao diay na if 250 watts imo load then 300 watts imo supply ilisdan nimo ug mas dako na supply mo bugnaw ang imong system
    corek!

    it's better pa man gani nga i-oversize nimo ang PSU to as much as double the actual full load sa CPU aron duna kay ready standby power in case ur system needs it, esp. if ur on heavy graphical applications.

    kon duna pai mo-argue ani, see me in person nalang and i will explain in detail why.

    but be prepared to understand highly-technical terms like High Ripple, Poor Regulation, Parasitic Oscillations, etc. that are inherent with Sagging Power Supplies.

    and pls do not argue using Kirchoff's Law, it only stays in the Books and would not enligten u any further why.
    it's better pa man gani nga i-oversize nimo ang PSU to as much as double the actual full load sa CPU aron duna kay ready standby power in case ur system needs it, esp. if ur on heavy graphical applications. = i know, i already meant that in my post when i said that if you want to make your cpu box just like a christmas tree, then a bigger wattage of psu is a good one to support.

    but be prepared to understand highly-technical terms like High Ripple, Poor Regulation, Parasitic Oscillations, etc. that are inherent with Sagging Power Supplies. = Â*i dont need to because i know that already and besides, there are lots of books and this internet connection of mine which can give more salient information beyond than that.

    and pls do not argue using Kirchoff's Law, it only stays in the Books and would not enligten u any further why. = i must because without books, that knowledge you have is dead. Â*do you think you got that knowledge from your dream?your funny. and if that knowledge you have comes from a teacher, do you think the knowledge of that teacher/instructor comes from his/her dream? still funny. Â*you can say books are not so significant but remember, having actual learning is insufficient without theories.

    3. never settle for a cheap/poorly regulated GENERIC POWER SUPPLY for your PC, as insufficient power would be left to your hard disk after the processor has satisfied its power requirement. = what the heck you got this passage? "neve settle for a cheap/poorly regualted GENERIC PWER SUPPLY" = no problem, it has a point, but for years i always use generic PSU but got no problems. "as insufficient power would be left to your hard disk after the processor has satisfied its power requirement"? lol, obvoiusly a wrong line.

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    @ fatsu

    so next time, better try to properly segmentized your phrases so that it wont be confusing.

    and i dont need to see any because i know it already, and as i have said, there are lots of books, and this internet connection of mine which can give salient information beyond than any of us here whos knowledge has limitations.

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    For me I rather go for higher psu wattage than enough to sustain power my system. I gives me more room to upgrade my system.
    Peace for Friend, I think you're applying in the wrong method of electrical laws.
    But hey what's your really pointing here. You're just starting an Arguments here.
    "Ruelnov" said that making a room for upgrade is good and you said it is right. "No Argument"
    Regarding about Kirchoff's Law", you can't tell me that there is in this world that you can call a "zero tolerance"?
    And Lastly Regarding about the Generic PSU, you have a point there and others have also there's. Consumption of power generated from the psu to power the motherboard mostly priorities the power consumption of a cpu or a processors. if it is not met other components that are connected to the motherboard are slightly affected by this method. in that case you should be aware and prepare for that by allowing your system to have at least 10-25% allowance or room for future needs. if your system requires 350 watts of power then you should make an allowance up to 400-450watts. In this case you cannot also generalized all kinds of psu are zero tolerance. that is why it is called "GENERIC" just like GENERIC medicine(it can cure you but not generic medicine cures you faster). I think it is the budget that really counts here regarding this matter and nobody else but the user itself.

    I think you should stop this nonsense of yours cause it doesn't help more people here.

    All are winners: We all have the power to complicate things and power to choose and tell ourself it's my decision to make.

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    4. your HDD is very sensitive to shock/vibration while in operation, so do not move the CPU if possible while your PC is ON = although I agree that we should take care of our HDD, HDD manufacturers are also doing the part in making us worry less about taking care of our HDD. so i conclude that this part is not applicable for the HDD nowadays due to --> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/...esShock-c.html (read)

    some drives can even withstand up to 300G force.

    another one --> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/...esShock-c.html (read)


    so unless you drop a HDD say from table top, it is most unlikely that a HDD will get damaged by just moving or jerking it operating or non-operating.

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    Quote Originally Posted by King
    For me I rather go for higher psu wattage than enough to sustain power my system. I gives me more room to upgrade my system.
    Peace for Friend, I think you're applying in the wrong method of electrical laws.
    But hey what's your really pointing here. You're just starting an Arguments here.
    "Ruelnov" said that making a room for upgrade is good and you said it is right. "No Argument"
    Regarding about Kirchoff's Law", you can't tell me that there is in this world that you can call a "zero tolerance"?
    And Lastly Regarding about the Generic PSU, you have a point there and others have also there's. Consumption of power generated from the psu to power the motherboard mostly priorities the power consumption of a cpu or a processors. if it is not met other components that are connected to the motherboard are slightly affected by this method. in that case you should be aware and prepare for that by allowing your system to have at least 10-25% allowance or room for future needs. if your system requires 350 watts of power then you should make an allowance up to 400-450watts. In this case you cannot also generalized all kinds of psu are zero tolerance. that is why it is called "GENERIC" just like GENERIC medicine(it can cure you but not generic medicine cures you faster). I think it is the budget that really counts here regarding this matter and nobody else but the user itself.

    I think you should stop this nonsense of yours cause it doesn't help more people here.

    All are winners: We all have the power to complicate things and power to choose and tell ourself it's my decision to make.
    i didnt tell that its not good to have bigger wattage, i even said that its good specially if one wants to have many accessories in his CPU box.

    and mind you, im not making arguments here, this is the normal flow of reactions in a furom budd.

    and im not making nonsense here, i am just telling what should it be, and this is very important specially to newbies.

    as you can see --> 3. never settle for a cheap/poorly regulated GENERIC POWER SUPPLY for your PC, as insufficient power would be left to your hard disk after the processor has satisfied its power requirement. = what the heck you got this passage? "never settle for a cheap/poorly regualted GENERIC PWER SUPPLY" = no problem, it has a point, but for years i always use generic PSU but got no problems. "as insufficient power would be left to your hard disk after the processor has satisfied its power requirement"? lol, obvoiusly a wrong line.

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    -re

    4. your HDD is very sensitive to shock/vibration while in operation, so do not move the CPU if possible while your PC is ON = although I agree that we should take care of our HDD, HDD manufacturers are also doing the part in making us worry less about taking care of our HDD. so i conclude that this part is not applicable for the HDD nowadays due to --> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/...esShock-c.html (read)

    some drives can even withstand up to 300G force.

    another one --> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/...esShock-c.html (read)


    so unless you drop a HDD say from table top, it is most unlikely that a HDD will get damaged by just moving or jerking it operating or non-operating.

    new Fujitsu HDD nowadays can resist forces of 900 G @ 1ms non-operational, and 300 G @ 2ms operational. Case vibrations will not damage a HDD since it is too low. Dropping it is another matter. Again, magnetic heads now are more stiff.

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    Default Re: >> TIPS on how to take care of your HARDdrive: >> RUELNOV <<

    ...no comment!

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    ...no comment

    OT: i remember seekenneth dunno what happened with that guy.

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