Pineal gland(DMT) gateway to afterlife?

[iczyes]

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So di mo talaga naririnig na me mga yogi noon, before Siddarta became Buddha who would beat their bodies and inflict pain to reach trance and enlightenment? you should read more,hehe.

I have friends na maraming tattoos i asked them how they were able to endure the pain brought by the needles. most of them would say na they just withdraw their senses from the pain and concnetrate on something else and then at some point ma relax na ung brain nila and then although they can sense the pain,pero ung utak nila is someplace else duplicating a trance-like state.



Well i ask you because You are tryinmg to disqualify a theory done by people who are expert on this field. These people have degress. In Sceince you have to give a better theory supported by factual data, Now if you cant produce one then your criticism against this people is null and avoid, in other words your own version cant be trusted and lacks professional point of view.

oh you dont respect people w/ degrees and your examples are degrees taken from online school. Well,its still a degree. But focus, the men who are doing this research are not of this kind.LOLZ


Well you can give your amatuer point of view just like mine but it is in no way credible and factual. But to discredit their expert findings (produce by proper experiments,guided by excperienced scientist) is layo ra kaau sa tinood.

Hmmmm...did I say anything discrediting people?
Masyadong nega reaction mo tsong....tell me...wala bang basis ang comments ko?
Isnt it not based also from factual points from research?
I am not disqualifying any theory, i am commenting on it...
Kaya nga theory eh...it remains that until its hypothesis is proven wrong
Para bang sa gamot...alam mo ang lagundi ay epektib sa ubo
kapag pinrocess mo at ginawang cough syrup...eto ba'y epektib pa rin sa pagtanggal sa ubo ng tao?
hindi naten alam...kaya nga may research eh...sa research bai, may iba't ibang levels yan
You can have a finding that may be discredited by another study
Until a certain study is quantified, reproduced and applied...tsaka lang magiging scientific truth
So, itong video mo na pinost..it is very informative..but it's not infallible..not without loopholes
And for that reason, I was commenting based on contradicting research findings of related topic
Believe me, i want to earnestly find scietific proof for such things
kase ang meron ako, based on experience ko at ng ibang kakilala ko
kumbaga sa medicine...case study lang
not a quantified, organized, scientific fact...or a study
kaso nga, me loopholes pa nga eh...kaya nga pinopoint out ko
scientific naman ang approach ko di bah?

React on my comments bahin sa video...do not question my credibility
kase ung discussion is what's matters, not kung sino at ano ako...
hindi perket may degree ang isang tao, hindi nagkakamali...
sabi ko na nga ba, nasense ko kung bakit u asked me kung ano ako...
kase u cant comment on my comments, you question credibility...
sana alamin mo muna kung may basihan un...kasi kung wala...tsaka mo tirahin dibah?
again, like some people here in istorya that ive encountered
that kind of comment is judgemental and EGO-ic...
i do not want to enggage in such a vain battle...so to speak...hehehe
so please, i appeal to your better nature, stick to the topic and comment on my posts...

I never said I do not respect people with degrees..pls do not put words in my mouth
hmmm...your line of thinking resembles somebody i know here...hehehe

about beating bodies, KAYA NGA NAGTATANONG KASE HINDI KO NGA ALAM.(kailangan bah ispellengin un?)
there's a connotation of malice sa sinabi mong " you should read more..."
and say...Thanks for informing me! I want to learn more and read more!
kaya nga kung alam mo iyon, for my benefit and others curious about it, kindly posts the info
bout beating bodies meditation...kung na-experience mo iyon...mas maganda! pls do share...

bro, im not projecting a "know-it-all-attitude" as what you are trying to imply
I am VERY interested about these things and I contribute what I know and experience as much as I can
In the hope na may mapulot din akong aral from others...give and take bah...
kaso ang nangyayari, nag give ako ng comment...kinukuwestiyon mo credibilidad ko?
bakit? anong gusto mong palabasin?
eh kung puro ganito ang mga taga istorya...id rather not partake in any discussion...
kase sa bawat pag-share ko...wala na akong nakukuhang enriching experience
binabalahura pa ako, inaaway at kinekwestiyon sa credibilidad
Now tell me, is that productive?

amateur ako? sure y not...as ive said, im a student of the universe..
no problem in being seen as amateur by others
but you cannot use that to bug down my comments...unless it's with no basis at all.
namaste!

[Malic]

@iczyes

psst...Did i say that you are trying to discredit a person? did i say that? Pls quote me.

tsang you better re-read what i posted.


When you give a comment on something arent you also saying that the data being questioned is inaccurate? and reading your "comment" feels like you are more qualified that those scientist or experts. LOLS.

Me pa example example ka pa na online degree ay sus,tapos me pasabi ka pa na you dont care about degrees,lols.

oh, in case you dont know, one needs to question anyone's credibility.

tsk tsk,in your post you said it yourself that you dont care people w/ degrees, and what do you think is that? let me quote you "well ang mga titles and degrees have no weight nor meaning sa akin
meron nga jan eh...they parade that master or doctorate kuno-hay ng divinities
na nakukuha lamang pala online...bayad ka na...bibigyan kalang babasahin
tapus ayun me degree ka na...hahahaha". oh yan, patawa tawa ka pa nga dyan,LOLS.

No weight and no meaning sa akin?ay sus...ang laki ng ulo mo.hahahahaha. In other words you dont pay respect to them. Well you can deny it if you like.


psst, sinabi na nga doon ang mga findings ng mga EXPERTS na DMT is responsible for mystic experiences and they think that its the gateway to after life and here you are an amatuer saying in effect that they are wrong or perhaps inaccurate. Now naturally i would ask you your qualification, because, in case you dont know, what you are doing is you are disqualifying a very reliable story. Remember, you mentioned a contradiction made by them,hahaha. You have to be an expert to say that but you are not. Tsang this is not filosopia, they were doing science. Hope you got that.

ego? hahahah, i didnt even gave a single criticism about it, because im not an expert. Im not even debating with you, What im doing is im trying to wake you up from your delusions.

Just because you are involve in paranormal for decades doesnt mean that you are more qualified than those people with degrees.

by the way this is between you and them. In other words this is your ego and theirs.

[iczyes]

@ Malic

Re: discrediting...
Yes you said so by this statement...
"But to discredit their expert findings (produce by proper experiments,guided by excperienced scientist) is layo ra kaau sa tinood. "-Malic
there...deny pa?

Re: what I feel about degrees...
What I said: "well ang mga titles and degrees have no weight nor meaning sa akin..."
at may pahabol pa:"well kanila yun...nothing against them...if it suits them...oki..sa akin...meaningless."
now my question...Did i ever say that i dont respect them"
Kapag hindi importante sa akin ang degrees, ibig ba sabihin nun kaagad hindi ko sila nirerespeto?
magkaiba un tsong...nagjump ka kaagad to conclusion based on your own terms of processing
You implied it....I did not say that...and its not EVEN what I meant
That reaction was to explicitly tell you that I dont put value kaya I dont go on flaunting that
It was an answer to your question on my credibility...

Ang issue about scientist and their degrees is totally outside the context
Try figuring it out why...smart man kaha ka

Haller! did I say anything about being an expert?
As Ive said I am a student...magkalayo kaau na student sa expert
BUT it doesnt mean a student cannot in any way make an objective comment
about certain FACTS that were learned regarding the subject matter
There is no ego battle here with the scientists...why would I? utter rubbish
You are ACTUALLY trying to start an ego battle with me by discrediting my comments
on the mere fact that YOU THINK I am no scientist and thus cannot be held credible
I dont even care what you think of me
But what I do care is whether you have something enriching to say about my comment
That's why I have been telling you...who I am is not important
What is important eh ung sinabi ko...ung comment ko sa video na iyon
ung content pre hindi tao...
Pero naintindihan ko na where you are coming from...kase nga u dont understand
whatever it is that i am saying...
Now,if you cannot keep up with my comments on the basis that you do not know
then by all means shut up and do not discredit people who are contributing to the discussion
You started a thread...and you cant contributeanything not more than asking
who the person is commenting...if he or she is reliable or not? un lang?
Ano bah gusto mo...mababaw na "i like the video churvah" lang na comment?
seesh!!! are you even open for the discussion of these things?
sa content ng shinowcase mo na videolink dito?

utang na labas, hindi ako nagmamayabang...at hindi ko rin sinabi na alam ko ang lahat
else hindi ko papatulan ang mga ganitong thread para magdiscuss ng ganitong bagay...
na pahirapan pa bago magkaroon ng REAL discussion
Ngayon, balik tayo sa topic about the pineal gland, puwede bah?
Kase walang magandang maidudulot kung puro ganito na lang...puwede? please?
Okay ibabalik ko na...sana may magreact based sa CONTENT ng comment ko below:

As Ive said, sabi nung scientist sa video...that DMT is released in times of stress
Sa Medicine, hindi lang DMT ang nirerelease ng tao
isa na ung pinakakilalang hormone na released ay ang adrenaline
which is responsible for the fight and flight response ng tao
this response is considered a primitive feature not only in humans but in other mammals as well


However, most psychics are rmore receptive when in the heightened ang states of consciousness
and maraming practitioners ng occult access their soul via "pineal gland" or what they term "blue pearl" awareness in a meditative state...
ang kilalang mood altering chemical na narerelease after meditation naman are endorphins
those that are also released after exercise...and this chemical makes someone in a "good" or "happy" mood

so andun ang conflict...DMT-stress...whereas heightened state-no stress
magkasalungat ang theory sa actual practice and experience
so kaya nga sabi ko...kailangan pa ng more studies, more research
because the assumption na pinagbasihan ng hypothesis sa study nila
ay not in line with actual practice
that's why sinabi ko rin in my previous post...maaring hindi pa DMT ang missing link.

I really do hope people who have knowledge in these things could comment on that objectively.
In full faith, Namaste!

[Malic]

@iczyes

I said to discredit their expert FINDINGS sir/mam. Not the person. So different with what you said,here "Hmmmm...did I say anything discrediting people?


bahala na ka sir/mam,hehe. kapoy ug prove sa point to someone who is insincere and daghan ug palusot. basta basaha na lang na diha. Sometimes you need to get out of yourself and hear what other people has to say about you.

[iczyes]

@Malic, kapoy jud magdiscuss kung wala'y intelectual content ang discussion
i have been trying to make you get back to the discussion on the subject
and still you react on the things that are of no substantial significance
im open to criticism of my viewpoints...sana un ang i-criticize dili pagkatao ko

[Hellblazer 2.1]

Carlos Castaneda's A separate reality!

Contoversial talaga ang mga book ni Castaneda

kase ang mga alternate reality ni Don Juan ay drug-induced din kase

so you've read his books. ('c',)

real or not, i like the philosophy of Don Juan Matus. i've learned so much from reading castaneda's books. and they're not all that different to eastern mysticism. the terminologies may be different, but the core concepts of Life, or Death, or just about anything, are quite similar. ('c',)

[Malic]

@Malic, kapoy jud magdiscuss kung wala'y intelectual content ang discussion
i have been trying to make you get back to the discussion on the subject
and still you react on the things that are of no substantial significance
im open to criticism of my viewpoints...sana un ang i-criticize dili pagkatao ko

haha kapoy jud. you took it as a personal attack man gud sir/mam nya i dont want to be misunderstood. Im just telling you what i see and observe,walang personalan.


have a good day

salam.

[-shinobi-]

grabe mga post ninyo bros/sis. interesting kaayo.
5 cents to all of you. ive learned alot

[iczyes]

haha kapoy jud. you took it as a personal attack man gud sir/mam nya i dont want to be misunderstood. Im just telling you what i see and observe,walang personalan.

Personal un kapag u question someone's credibility just because you dont agree
sana nga uli, ung sinabi ko ang i-aatack mo...will gladly accept it
so im still waiting...any meaningful comment k ba sa content ng sinabi ko?
namaste!

[iczyes]

so you've read his books. ('c',)

real or not, i like the philosophy of Don Juan Matus. i've learned so much from reading castaneda's books. and they're not all that different to eastern mysticism. the terminologies may be different, but the core concepts of Life, or Death, or just about anything, are quite similar. ('c',)

i agree...i also learned a lot of shamanistic techniques from his books
unique siya kase ung mga materials eh dun lan sa kanila makikita
para bang mga mananambal natin dito sa pinas
unique din ung mga techniques kase ang ginagamit din na materyales ay dito lang nakikita
un nga lang, hindi nadocument un kase walang "carlos castaneda" sa atin
iba kase approach ni mr. jaime l. kay carlos c.
Magaganda ung teachings ni Don Juan Matus kaya kang
nasayang dahil maraming na-turn off kay Carlos sa kanyang mga bisyo, babae at pagkakakulong
sigh! what's ur favorite part sa mga libro nya?
ako tawang tawa ako dun sa lizard na ginamit nya magcommunicate!
i mean, ang galing!