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  1. #2801

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark__012590 View Post
    I'm afraid your religion was unable to answer the questions of man of long ago. Man used to believe that outside the sky there are gods. But you see, science has made a way for man to take a peek to the extremities of the solar system with the use of the powerful telescopes. And it definitely proved that outside the earth's sky, are not gods, but planets, stars, galaxies.
    Christian religion has all the answers, ang problema sa sama nimu Atheist wa ka mituoo kay way Physical Scientific Evidence. Bisag klaru kaayu sa Bibliya ang Ginoo espiritu ug di makita sa tawo unya na ig end of the world which is WALA pa niabot, mangita ghapon ug Physical Evidence. ikaw nlan sabot ana.

    Aws, Naka peak na diay ang imung Science sa Extremities sa Solar system? Bantog ra wa muy Physical Evidence nga naka adtu mu? bantog ra cge mug panghambog anang inyun DIGITAL PIXEL nga gipang enchance, Ug bantog ra mag punay nlang mug question sa buhat sa Ginoo bisag wa mu nituo niya kay wa namaoy lain maipakita.

    Simple ra kaayu ni nga Idea:
    Theist - Kumpleto na sa explanation bahin sa Ginoo naa sa Bibliya tanan WALA or DILI lang mu mutoo.
    Atheist - Pangutan-on nimu about sa explanation sa tanan butang sa Universe ang Tubag - WALA KAY WALA PA KUNU PA DISKOBREHI SA SCIENCE, IG FUTURE NA KUNU! (unya kamu maoy numero una mu Conlude nga way Ginoo)

  2. #2802

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    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    holy trinity

    God the Father
    God the Son
    God the Holy Spirit

    they are one
    Some say the Holy Spirit is Not same as God the Father and The son, its just like a power or gahum nila. Kay naa sa Bibliya gihatag man as Gift sa Holy Spirit. wala paman gud ko kabasa sa Bibliya about sa Holy Spirit acting like sa God Father or ni Jesus thats why i am asking.

  3. #2803

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    No. The pope only assigned people to perform inquiries about suspected heretical activities adtong panahona. Wala pa ko'y nabasahan nga ang usa ka pope mismo ang nag-instruct nga ipa-torture ang usa ka tawo. Labaw ng wala ko'y nabasahan nga dunay doktrina sa simbahan nga nag-ingon nga OK ra ang pag-torture.
    then maybe you should read more kinsa ang nagissue sa inquisition ug unsa ang punishment nga iya giissue ang pwede ug deli pwede. look at the year 1215a.d..

    "criminal convicted in treason are punished with death and goods are confiscated with how much more reason then they who offend Jesus the son of our God be cut off from the christian communion and be stripped of their goods" -pope innocent the III-

    i just wondered y iya na gibuhat..

  4. #2804

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedogs View Post
    i dont know where exactly, but i remember someone posted diri sa istorya na Popes are infallible.
    Bitaw, ingun ang Pope di pwedi maka sala kay Substitute ni Kristo diri sa yuta, nya mu ingun mu nga ang Ginoo na bahala sa Pope nga nagsugo sa pagpapatay during inquisitions. makalibog

  5. #2805

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedogs View Post
    i dont know where exactly, but i remember someone posted diri sa istorya na Popes are infallible.
    Fundamentalists and other "Bible Christians" often confuse the charism of papal "infallibility" with "impeccability." They imagine Catholics believe the pope cannot sin.

    Infallibility is not the absence of sin. Nor is it a charism that belongs only to the pope. Indeed, infallibility also belongs to the body of bishops as a whole, when, in doctrinal unity with the pope, they solemnly teach a doctrine as true. We have this from Jesus himself, who promised the apostles and their successors the bishops, the magisterium of the Church: "He who hears you hears me" (Luke 10:16), and "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven" (Matt. 18:18 ).

    An infallible pronouncement—whether made by the pope alone or by an ecumenical council—usually is made only when some doctrine has been called into question.

    There is no guarantee that popes won’t sin or give bad example. (The truly remarkable thing is the great degree of sanctity found in the papacy throughout history; the "bad popes" stand out precisely because they are so rare.)

    Infallibility applies only to solemn, official teachings on faith and morals, not to disciplinary decisions or even to unofficial comments on faith and morals. A pope’s private theological opinions are not infallible, only what he solemnly defines is considered to be infallible teaching.

    src: Papal Infallibility
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 09-05-2011 at 02:17 PM.

  6. #2806

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    This is specific to the law in Israel during the time. This is to show the punishment of sin. But we are not to do these only God.

    The eternal commandment which has the higher authority still stands "Thou shall not Kill".

    Read about the new covenant of Jesus which is consistent with the eternal commandment of God. The old statutes of Animal sacrifice and killings are fullfilled by Christ death on the cross.
    still it was practiced long time ago right?.. in fact naa gani to gistoned to death sa inyo bible dba during moses time?.. though i forgot asa to nga verse hehe not good in memorizing such things man gud..

    we are not allowed? basaha daw balik ang chapter bro jung c God bah ang pwede ra mupunish ana..

  7. #2807

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    they change their tactics whenever it's convenient. i remember before nga naa gyud nikontra nga ang pope daw pwd mghatag ug balaod kay infallible daw sila and they can never be wrong. ang topic at that time is why bible jd basehan sa mga uban religious sect, ang reason kay tungod tuo sa uban nga ang bible ra gyud ang dili masayop. and ingon ang mga RC nga ang pope daw pwd pud muhatag ug mandate (kalimot ko sa term) kay tungod infallible daw ang pope.

    while now nga karn ang pope ang nisugo sa inquisition, muingon na sila nga ang Ginoo na daw bhala ato nila. so, tinuod jd diay nga masayop ang pope noh?

    basta pra nako, sayop gyud na nga naay taw magpaginoo2x kay taw gyud tang tanan. way special nato nga dili ta masayop unless you're Jesus and born in a manger in bethlehem, but if youre not, then you're as much human as i am. a sinner and imperfect.

  8. #2808

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    ^^ Nia ra ang answer diri ay. Palihug lang og basa.

    https://www.istorya.net/forums/genera...l#post10951978

  9. #2809

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Fundamentalists and other "Bible Christians" often confuse the charism of papal "infallibility" with "impeccability." They imagine Catholics believe the pope cannot sin.

    Infallibility is not the absence of sin. Nor is it a charism that belongs only to the pope. Indeed, infallibility also belongs to the body of bishops as a whole, when, in doctrinal unity with the pope, they solemnly teach a doctrine as true. We have this from Jesus himself, who promised the apostles and their successors the bishops, the magisterium of the Church: "He who hears you hears me" (Luke 10:16), and "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven" (Matt. 18:18 ).

    An infallible pronouncement—whether made by the pope alone or by an ecumenical council—usually is made only when some doctrine has been called into question.

    There is no guarantee that popes won’t sin or give bad example. (The truly remarkable thing is the great degree of sanctity found in the papacy throughout history; the "bad popes" stand out precisely because they are so rare.)

    Infallibility applies only to solemn, official teachings on faith and morals, not to disciplinary decisions or even to unofficial comments on faith and morals. A pope’s private theological opinions are not infallible, only what he solemnly defines is considered to be infallible teaching.

    src: Papal Infallibility
    when it was discussed at that time, the RC defenders did not believe what's above. as in they actually said that he cant make mistakes. i remember it vividly kay dili jd lagi ko gnahan anang muingon nga dili masayop, kay it's so so wrong. taw mn gud ta, bsan ituwad2x pata. i jst cnt remember unsa to nga thread. that's why im saying now that you use the infallibility of the pope whenever it's convenient then you go back to him as being human when it's obvious nga mali gyud xa.

  10. #2810

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedogs View Post
    this inquisition happened AFTER the new testament dba? so you're saying that what the pope did was justifiable given that the laws may have been different at that time? but it was already in the new testament that killing is sin? did the new testament conveniently transformed into something else that condoned killings at that time then changed to what we have now? there might have been killings in old testament but it was willed by God, in the new testament howerver, Jesus said to love one another. and that killing is a sin. so the pope did not follow what the new testament teaches?
    killing is a sin tumpak! wasn't the 10 commandments issued at the old testament? yet ang punishment is death refer to Deuteronomy 17. so you guys don't say nga wala mo nagpractice ana or wala nas inyo doctrine kay it was written sa inyo bible. (aw sorry miss para rana sa kad2ng niingon nga wala daw sa ila doctrine hehe)

    no what the pope did was for the good of his church to protect the people from heresy. kay at that time christians were slowly breaking up tungod sa mga protestants and other infidels as they point it out.

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