Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[luci_morningstar]

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Indeed, it is not too late because it is good as NEVER.

For over a thousand years, you people have been clinging to the same rhyme " Salvation by this, salvation by that".
Giving false hopes to humanity in all the time and in all around the globe.

over a thousand years have passed and time was never on your side as promises unfolded to remain as a promise.

Allow me to describe you people as even worse than a corrupted storage drive. Humanity have made gigantic leap forward and your preference of salvation is the old book in shelf? Awesome, what a choice indeed! and what a waste!

The promise is for the end of times and after you die, you haven't been there yet. You can bring your arrogance there after you leap over to the other side.

[RayGunz]

I did

Imagination
noun
1. the faculty of imagining, or of forming mental images or concepts of what is not actually present to the senses.
2. the action or process of forming such images or concepts.
3. the faculty of producing ideal creations consistent with reality, as in literature, as distinct from the power of creating illustrative or decorative imagery.
4. the product of imagining; a conception or mental creation, often a baseless or fanciful one.
etc
etc.


NOWHERE in the dictionary mentioned about the Limitation of Imagination. However, there are countless source stating the Limitation of our imagination since IT IS DEPENDENT on a Lot of limited Factors.

NICE TRY thou..

IMAGINATION is DEPENDENT on a lot of Limited factors like you stated earlier " And is constrained by experience".

So, imagination is limited by experienced....and experience means personally encountering.

In your logic, shall we conclude that the creators of Superman had really experience this superhero (personal encounter) so they can create him?

As much as Bible creators and old scripture authors really experience some kind of "divine" personal encounter?

Please forgive me but i cant help myself to laugh out loud.

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The promise is for the end of times and after you die, you haven't been there yet. You can bring your arrogance there after you leap over to the other side.

Wow! You people are always like this,
threatening others with the supposedly outcome of your own make believe.

This what makes religious organizations so DISGUSTING!

[luci_morningstar]

IMAGINATION is DEPENDENT on a lot of Limited factors like you stated earlier " And is constrained by experience".

So, imagination is limited by experienced....and experience means personally encountering.

In your logic, shall we conclude that the creators of Superman did they really experience this superheroes personal encounter?

Yes, as an example the BIBLE was created before the Comics, The Bible mentioned Super Powers and God. Comics creators Already Knew whats in the Bible before they Wrote any of their comic stories. So YEAH, based on the past knowledge and experience with Ancient Manuscripts and writings, Comics creators were influenced by the IDEAS from previous writings and Manuscripts not just the Bible. The word CONSTRAINED still applies. Nice try again.

As much as Bible creators and old scripture authors really experience some kind of personal encounter?

You Dont know if they DID, you don't have Proof. SO it still applies.

Please forgive me but i cant help myself to laugh out loud.

Laugh at you when you use the DICTIONARY for your counter argument?

Wow! You people are always like this,
threatening others with the supposedly outcome of your own make believe.

This what makes religious organizations so DISGUSTING!

I did Not threat you, I just explain my counter argument What the Bible say. That the writings mentioned the Promise in the END of times, No dates, no year. And the revelation of all this is when you DIE Which you are not.

are you scared? or do you care?

[RayGunz]

Yes, as an example the BIBLE was created before the Comics, The Bible mentioned Super Powers and God. Comics creators Already Knew whats in the Bible before they Wrote any of their comic stories. So YEAH, based on the past knowledge and experience with Ancient Manuscripts and writings, Comics creators were influenced by the IDEAS from previous writings and Manuscripts not just the Bible. The word CONSTRAINED still applies. Nice try again.




You Dont know if they DID, you don't have Proof. SO it still applies.


Laugh at you when you use the DICTIONARY for your counter argument?



I did Not threat you, I just explain my counter argument What the Bible say. That the writings mentioned the Promise in the END of times, No dates, no year. And the revelation of all this is when you DIE Which you are not.

are you scared? or do you care?

Congratulations! Finally I have someone here who thinks humans have experience/personal encounter of Superman.
I am so scared now that Superman will not save me or he might punch me half a world away.

I so envy you my dear, for you are so hopeful in your world of make believe, and i can never step in your realm as i see things as they really are.

Trust me, i appreciated your methods of argument, one way or the other. May your longing for inner peace be with you always in this world or "hereafter" as you say so.

[RayGunz]

It would be unproductive and futile if we blatantly impose our beliefs to each other, if one doesnt have an open heart its totally futile so I leave you in your own belief as you may it be.

In due time, we may all rest in peace. No harm done, as it is an important ingredient in every rebuttal. Nice meeting your style/methodologies in this thread.

[luci_morningstar]

Congratulations! Finally I have someone here who thinks humans have experience/personal encounter of Superman.
I am so scared now that Superman will not save me or he might punch me half a world away.

Your Not so funny response does not save your from your weak argument.

Now, Prove to us with a Non childish response that Imagination is Not Dependent on a limited knowledge? Because so far what you've said are ALL WRONG.

Prove to me that The Comic creators does Not have ANY knowledge of any OLD text or writings that influence them to IMAGINE creating characters with Superpowers? Because what you're trying to do here is to be Funny, and its not Working.

I so envy you my dear, for you are so hopeful in your world of make believe, and i can never step in your realm as i see things as they really are.

Trust me, i appreciated your methods of argument, one way or the other. May your longing for inner peace be with you always in this world or "hereafter" as you say so.

And your the Exception of NOT being Hopeful? You Struggle to live on this Earth and live your life even if you Dont know what the future Brings, You TRY to face your personal Problems HOPING to have a Better Future, You Work Hard for an UNCERTAIN tomorrow Dreaming to make your Life HAPPY and Better - And Now You're the Exemption? And Now your NOT Being Hopeful?

I Doubt.

[dualbishop]

Genuine Faith produces Good Works.

[rl]

faith is a word that's being thrown all the time. but God knows how we as humans our faith are so little.

Jesus even compare if our Faith is bigger than a mustard seed, we can move mountains. So faith is essential, and with great faith we produce good works.

[Kenshiro]

In the day of final judgment, every lost soul will understand the nature of his own rejection of truth.
The cross will be presented, and its real bearing will be seen by every mind that has been blinded by
transgression. Before the vision of Calvary with its mysterious Victim, sinners will stand condemned.
Every lying excuse will be swept away. Human apostasy will appear in its heinous character. Men will
see what their choice has been. Every question of truth and error in the long-standing controversy will
then have been made plain. In the judgment of the universe, God will stand clear of blame for the
existence or continuance of evil. It will be demonstrated that the divine decrees are not accessory to sin.
There was no defect in God's government, no cause for disaffection. When the thoughts of all hearts
shall be revealed, both the loyal and the rebellious will unite in declaring, "Just and true are Thy ways,
Thou King of saints. Who shall not fear Thee, O Lord, and glorify Thy name? . . . for Thy judgments
are made manifest." Rev. 15:3, 4.

[porbidaman]

It's nice to read fantasy stories here.