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  1. #241

    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency


    di man siguro off topic.. part of the topic man ila gipangsulti siguro..

  2. #242

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosimos
    Quote Originally Posted by tolstoi
    at least it is successful, the coup attempt has been averted..the AQUINOS plot to bring down PGMA was fizzled.

    at the end of the day, i come to think that this problem rooted on the HACIENDA LUISITA issue!
    Ask lang ko, kung moingon ko nimo "Hoy, psst, tolstoi pwede ka mo withdraw ug support sa Presidente?" Coup de etat diay na.

    coup d'état (pronounced /ku de'ta/), or simply a coup, is the sudden overthrow of a government against the volonté générale formed by the majority of the citizenry, usually done by a smaller supposedly weaker body that just replaces the top power figures.

    The term is French for "a (sudden) blow (or strike) to a state" (literally, coup, hit, and état, state).

    There was no overt act. Nagsulti lang si Gen. Lim. Asa may kudeta ana?
    lets face it bai mosimos..coup attempt has been brewing before it was averted by the Arroyo administration..if not for the efforts of the Pro-admin/Pro-people military officials to hunt down Lim and Quiruben then maybe a bloody encounter would happend.

    kung wala pato na averted bai nag kudeta na cguro ron..dagko na kaayu ngisi cla CORY, ARROYO, ERAP ug mga NPA.

  3. #243

    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency

    again bai tolstoi... ibalik nako ha... ang proclaimation was done after the alleged coup occur. Senga even said that on that day there was no coup attempt.

    Get your facts straight, coz many innocent people might read and believe what you said.

    And again i reiterate... the government can stop a Coup plot because it is in their power, they don't need additional declaration of State of National Emergency.

    the army did not hunt down Queruben and Lim, kay kong tinuod pa na imong gisulti bai, ngano naka adto pa man siya sa Fort Bonifacio og he was freely able to travel back to Marawi.

    Ingon ani ni ka inutile si GMA? that to stop a coup he have to resort to State of Emergency?

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    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency

    again bai tolstoi... ibalik nako ha... ang proclaimation was done after the alleged coup occur. Senga even said that on that day there was no coup attempt.
    Get your facts straight, coz many innocent people might read and believe what you said.
    ingon ba gud ko bai nga ni proclaim ug SNE before the coup rumor?

    And again i reiterate... the government can stop a Coup plot because it is in their power, they don't need additional declaration of State of National Emergency.
    the govenment declared SNE because of the "Clear & present Danger" clause..they think it better to exercise prudence on the matter than nothing...after all the declaration was very effective in averting coup scenario.

    the army did not hunt down Queruben and Lim, kay kong tinuod pa na imong gisulti bai, ngano naka adto pa man siya sa Fort Bonifacio og he was freely able to travel back to Marawi.
    why did the military singled out Lim and Quirubin as coup plotters inside the rank?..of course they did some investigations in hunting them down..kung wala pa nag hunt ang military kung kinsa ning mga tawhana na ni support ug coup dili unta mi mugawas ila mga pangalan.

    Ingon ani ni ka inutile si GMA? that to stop a coup he have to resort to State of Emergency?
    hahah..whatever the adjectives you can rant on PGMA bai it doesn't matter anymore since the government already averted the possible danger of coup, and most of all the economy is back normal.

    mo resort to SNE or dili ang importante wala nagmalampuson ang mga walai puangod nga sila ERAP & company, CORY, ug SISON!

  5. #245

    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency

    ingon ba gud ko bai nga ni proclaim ug SNE before the coup rumor?
    onsaon ma nimo pag prevent bai kong ang imo proclamation after na?


    the govenment declared SNE because of the "Clear & present Danger" clause..they think it better to exercise prudence on the matter than nothing...after all the declaration was very effective in averting coup scenario.
    let me just put it this way bai? when was the report that the alleged withdrawal of support or the coup was you would like to say it been declared that it was stopped? and when was the declaration of the state of emergency?

    if you don't know... the AFP said there were able to prevent the coup plot way before 6 AM, and the proclamation took place almost noon. So how can an event that took place in 11 AM had averted the events that happen in 6AM?

    kung wala pa nag hunt ang military kung kinsa ning mga tawhana na ni support ug coup dili unta mi mugawas ila mga pangalan.
    klarohon nato bai ha... gi restrict to quarters ba si Queruben?

    hahah..whatever the adjectives you can rant on PGMA bai it doesn't matter anymore since the government already averted the possible danger of coup, and most of all the economy is back normal.
    the government was able to avert a possible danger of coup even without the proclamation. So your claim that the proclamation have prevented the danger of coup... is totally wrong.

  6. #246

    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency

    onsaon ma nimo pag prevent bai kong ang imo proclamation after na?
    if you don't know... the AFP said there were able to prevent the coup plot way before 6 AM, and the proclamation took place almost noon. So how can an event that took place in 11 AM had averted the events that happen in 6AM?
    the government was able to avert a possible danger of coup even without the proclamation. So your claim that the proclamation have prevented the danger of coup... is totally wrong.
    like i said lagi..SNE was declared as a matter of prudence..it was meant to thwart any further coup attempts and also to insure that the government would have proper and extra control of the situation.

    ug usa pa naa ni sa constituion na pwede mo declare ang presidente..naay rights c PGMA na depensaan ang nasud from any threats by way of SNE...sa atu pa bai iyaha ning initiative

    ug tunogd ani nag kurog2x ang tuhod nilang satur ocampo ug ubang militanting leader sa office ni JDV..hadlok dakpun..isug raman diay kung daghang tawo ang mupaluyo nila

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    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency

    like i said lagi..SNE was declared as a matter of prudence..it was meant to thwart any further coup attempts and also to insure that the government would have proper and extra control of the situation.
    kani bai mura naa pa ni basihanan, unlike sa una nimo gi-ingon nga ang proclamation naka prevent sa coup atong biyernes.

    ug usa pa naa ni sa constituion na pwede mo declare ang presidente..naay rights c PGMA na depensaan ang nasud from any threats by way of SNE...sa atu pa bai iyaha ning initiative
    yup iyaha ng initiative... pero over lang. mura dili na jud siya ka control sa situation ba mao palaban siya ani. I thought she is control? Palaban man lagi ani.

  8. #248

    Default Re: Palace Declares State of Emergency

    ^^ang kana laging SNE bai iyaha nang katungod..kung gusto ma in-control c PGMA sa situation naa cyay option sa constitution na mo declare ug ana

    sa atu pa part gihapun na sa iyahang pagka presidente ang declaration.

  9. #249

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    ni ingon ba ko bai nga dili na iyahang katungod?

    ang ako ra gi ingon kay in my opinion... there's no need. and it just show that maglisud na siya control sa situation kay gamit na man siya og extra powers.

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    ‘Emergency’ highlights need for reforms, say local execs

    Local government executives said yesterday the declaration of a state of national emergency highlights all the more the urgency of constitutional reforms to correct the structural flaws of the country’s political system that have long served as breeding ground for instability and military adventurism.

    Governors Ben Evardone (Eastern Samar), Edward Plaza (Agusan del Sur) and Benjamin Loong (Sulu) said the negative reaction of some opposition senators is one more argument for an overhaul of the Constitution to clear the way for the abolition of the Senate under the presidential system in favor of a single-chamber or unicameral parliamentary government.

    “They should stop showboating in spooking the public with unfounded charges of a de facto martial law supposedly imposed by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo when all that she did was to declare a state of national emergency to save the nation from a then impending coup,” said Evardone, who is also the press relations officer of the League of Provinces of the Philippines.

    Plaza said it is obvious that far from the national interest, these opposition leaders only have their partisan political interests in mind when they raised the martial law bogey just to rack up political pogi points at the expense of the President and the general public.

    “There appeared to have been a lull on political attacks against Malacañang when the national focus was on the rescue and relief operations for the victims of the Southern Leyte landslide tragedy,” Plaza said.

    He added that politicking has now reared its ugly head anew in the aftermath of the landslide tragedy when the people should be one as a nation in resisting attempts by lawless elements to overthrow the legitimate government of President Arroyo.

    Loong said the current political mudslinging by the opposition only shows that the Philippines cannot attain political stability and pursue its economic takeoff unless Charter Change is launched that will set the stage for the abolition of the Senate.

    “The time is ripe for the people to amend the Constitution,” Loong said.

    A day after President Arroyo issued Proclamation 1017 declaring a state of national emergency, senators like Joker Arroyo and Aquilino Pimentel Jr. renewed their attacks against the President, calling her move a draconian measure supposedly designed to silence the media and intimidate the political opposition.

    Evardone pointed out that the mainstream opposition’s excessive preoccupation with politics often resulted in executive-legislative gridlocks, which have stalled the passage of vital economic measures.
    “The Senate, for instance, has apparently abandoned its legislative duties in favor of conducting investigations in aid of legislation, which have all turned out to be investigations in aid of character assassination and political grandstanding,” he said.

    Last year, the 13th Congress was able to pass only four laws of national importance. These are Republic Act 9333, which set the date of the elections for the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao; RA 9334, which increased the excise tax rates on alcohol and tobacco products; RA 9335, which created a rewards and incentives fund for the Bureau of Customs and Bureau of Internal Revenue; and RA 9337, which amended provisions of the National Internal Revenue Code.
    Plaza said the dismal performance of the Congress under a bicameral system, which has turned out to be a sheer waste of taxpayers’ money, is one clear proof of the urgent need to shift to a unicameral parliamentary system.

    “The opposition in the Senate has again resorted to political grandstanding on the issue of the President’s declaration of a state of emergecy, unmindful of the facts proving that there was a clear threat to our political stability had Mrs. Arroyo not acted swiftly enough to nip last Friday’s destabilization attempt in the bud,” he said.

    Evardone recalled that Col. Ariel Querubin of the Marines admitted at the height of last Sunday’s standoff in Fort Bonifacio that his plan was to lead a group of Marine soldiers marching to Edsa on Feb. 24 to join antigovernment protesters who converged there on the pretense of commemorating the 20th anniversary of the 1986 People Power Revolution, where the rebel soldiers would declare their withdrawal of support from President Arroyo.

    Manila Mayor Lito Atienza said last Friday’s failed coup attempt drove away many foreign tourists and prospective investors from enjoying their stay in Manila.

    “Punong-puno ng turista noon... halos lahat ng hotel puno. Nang magkagusot, nagmamadali silang umalis,” Atienza said.

    He said it was providential that the country has recovered after President Arroyo declared a state of emergency that prevented the destabilization and coup attempts from getting citizen support.

    “Magpapatuloy ang ganda ng ekonomiya kung tutulungan natin ang pamahalaan. ’Wag natin pabayaang magtagumpay ang mga power grabbers,” Atienza stressed.

    A report by Time Magazine Asia also detailed an alleged meeting at the house of former Tarlac Rep. Jose “Peping” Cojuangco between Pastor Saycon of the Council for Philippine Affairs and “ringleaders” of the coup plot. The magazine said the meeting discussed plans for a “withdrawal of support” from President Arroyo.
    http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?...s05_mar01_2006

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