Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

[Mr_NicePrice]

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tungod sa kalisod sa panahon karon ang simbahan ghimo na negosyo sa uban mga tawo instead nga mangau ra ug donations pareha sa una panahon.... laliman ka ang pagpamisa lang, before pwd ra pila imo ihatag if magpamisa pero now naa nay rate kong magpamisa ka sa kalag...

sure ka ana imong istorya bai? nakasuway kag adto sa simbahan sa province? kadungog ka sa istorya sa mga seminarista dd2? manakop sila ug baki aron mao ilang kaunon... natural since naa sa siyudad ang simbahan, natural kailangan sila mo cope up sa gastohon so dapat naa sila fundings... considering sayop ni ang pagpangayo ug bayad sa pa misa, will this be your ground na d ka motuo ni GOD? or u doubt HIM?

pero i dont know what church u are referring to, since this is a catholic practices doubts and questions thread, im assuming ur referring sa catholic church...

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OT: di bani siya mas angayan ibutang dnhi?

https://www.istorya.net/forums/philos...ogical-debate/

This thread is not a debate thread. This thread answers the question "Why the Catholics do this and that?" This thread should minimize "Catholic Church is obviously the works of the devil" as much as possible.

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If the bible was written by man inspired by GOD, then why are there inconsistencies and differences between
the four gospels?

These inconsistencies and differences relate to each other in some way. Example: ang author sa Gospel of Mark kay nakakita og event with Jesus nga wala nakita sa author sa Gospel of Matthew. Also, the inconsistencies of whether Jesus was born in Bethlehem or in Jerusalem by two of the 4 gospels is observable but they relate in some way. Jesus was born in Bethlehem but He spent most of His time in Jerusalem.

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Is Simala a pilgrim place or tourist spot? ^_^

Both. It depends to the purpose of the person/persons going there.

[ketllac]

Samot nga ayong bati nga ingon ka iya ka sa yawa imong religion anti Christ. unya pangutan-on ngano man o unsay rason? ang usually tubag ah basta' ingon ako pastor. Pero i check reference ug source sa info as well as ang reasoning. way ikatampo ug molikay sa discussion. This is not a debate thread but we can't deny that in sharing an opinion like this requires sound judgment and logical basis.

Pareha ra ang Mayweather brod nga sige ug hatag verbal Jabs kang Pacquiao but lihay lihay aron madayon ang contest sa boksing.

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okay, maybe the word should be Strengthen?

So can i ask why man Catholics are Not Solely dependent on the Bible alone? what are the Other Source man diay?

The Catholics not just depend in the Bible alone because not all events are written in the Bible, and the event after the final event in the bible are not also written. Some of such events are apparitions from Mother Mary, from Angels, from Jesus, and from God, which are not written in the Bible. As an example, the praying of the rosary is not in the Bible but it is rooted from different apparitions from different places in the world.

There are only 2 sources of Catholic faith. (Other have different say). (1) Bible, (2) Heavenly events not in the bible (eg apparitions)

The Church also makes sure that these apparitions are not hoaxes. It was proven that it was not, so be it.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

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Personal General Sharing
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Thanks for the questions d.a.m.a.s.o.

A very common misconception of Catholics and non-Catholics regarding Catholic's interfacing to saints is the phrase "Catholics worshipped Saints."

Actually, Catholics do not worship Saints. I should say that not all Catholics know that. Few Catholics worshipped Saints today the same way they worship Jesus, which is not what it is supposed to be.

Catholics asked the saints to pray for the living because they are more closer to God in heaven. It is just like a child asking food from his father compared to a friend asking food from that same child's father. It is more easier to ask help from those closer to Him. However, the question is: "Do saints really hear people's prayers?" Another question is "Are there declared saints in hell?"

There are many appearances to people on those who have longed dead centuries ago. Even in the Bible, prophets, angels, and human being, appear on the Apostles of Jesus. This appearance mean that they are sent by God. (You should believe the preceding statement if you're a Christian.) These people, then, are closer to God. So we ask them to pray for us. However, saints should not be interchanged with angels, prophets, and Mary. Saints are ordinary people who is believe that they are now close to God.

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Related Literature with Biblical Evidence
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I have found a good resource (better than mine) on the Communion of Saints believed by Catholics: Biblical Evidence for Catholicism: The Communion of Saints: Biblical Overview

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Final Comment:
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Other religions may not believe my arguments above and may find many hoaxes on it. However, let it be. Every religion has very different interpretations of the Bible. If you Christian but non-Catholics say that their is no saint, Muslims will also say to you that Jesus is not God. What is needed here is acceptance of one's opinion since religion is prone to existence of debate. Let us respect one other and love one another.

I found a good source too.

Catechism of Christian Doctrine

Authorities:
No. 3 In conformity with the Decrees of the Plenary Council and the Code of 1918.
Nhili Obstat: A.G. Casas, Censor Librorum
Imprematur: Rufino J. Santos, D.D., Archbishop of Manila, De La Salle College,
Brothers of the Christian Schools, Manila Philippines 1955

Page 86
"10. What is a saint?
A saint in the strict sense of the word is one who is in heaven, and has been presented by the Church for the public worship of the faithful

Page 87
"13. Is the worship of the saints confined to their persons?
No; it extends also to their relics and images "

"14. What do we call Relics?
We call relics:
1. The remains of the body of a saint who has been canonized or beatified by the church;
2. The objects which have belonged to the saints, or which have touched their bodies: such as linen, coffins, etc."

15. Ought we to worship holy images?
We should have, particularly in our churches, images of Our Lord, as also of the Blessed Virgin and the saints.."

If you are not following the Catechism then you ain't Catholic.

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First of all, ato unta i-check ang thread title: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion. So you may ask (even if you do not belong to it inasmuch as your question is ONLY about Catholic Church) or answer (again ONLY about Catholic Church).

My first question is:
1. What is the Catholic Church stand on homosexuality?

I also need clarifications on little discrepancies on bible:

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God of Jesus: "God is love." (1 John 4:16)

God of Moses: "Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man" (Num. 31:17)
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God of Jesus: "Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me." (Mark 9:37)

God of Moses: "Put to death men and women, children and infants" (1 Sam. 15:2-3)
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God of Jesus: "Love does no harm to its neighbor" (Rom. 13:10)

God of Moses: "He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded." (Josh. 10:40)
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God of Jesus: "[The devil] was a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:44)

God of Moses: "Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children" (Ezek. 9:6)
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God of Jesus: "Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." (1 Peter 5:8 )

God of Moses: "Like a lion I will devour them." (Hosea 13:8 )
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God of Jesus: "Anyone who does not love his brother [is of the devil]." (1 John 3:10)

God of Moses: "Go back and forth killing your brother and friend and neighbor" (Exod. 32:27)

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God of Jesus: "[The devil] is a liar and the father of lies." (John 8:44)

God of Moses: "Put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours." (1 Kings 22:23)
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God of Jesus: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy." (John 10:10)

God of Moses: "Pursue, kill and completely destroy them." (Jer. 50:21)
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God of Jesus: "He who does what is sinful is of the devil" (1 John 3:8 )

God of Moses: "Do not leave alive anything that breathes" (Deut. 20:16)
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God of Jesus: "God so loved the world.." (John 3:16)

God of Moses: "I will wipe humankind ..from the face of the Earth." (Gen. 6:7)
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God of Jesus: "Love your enemies" (Luke 6:27-28 )

God of Moses: "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them." (Num. 25:16-17)

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God of Jesus: "For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone" (James 1:13)

God of Moses: "[He] tempted Abraham" (Gen. 22:1)
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Thanks for the very nice question.

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1. What is the Catholic Church stand on homosexuality?

--> I have found a good answer here: Homosexuality and Homosexuality and Roman Catholicism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. When you click the link, please change the *** in your address bar to its exact word (s3x --> change 3 to e).

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I also need clarifications on little discrepancies on bible:

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God of Jesus: ...
VS.
God of Moses: ...

--> You have pointed a very good contradictions between the God in the time of Jesus and God in the time of Moses.

We should take note of the event that has occurred on those passages. The bible is supposed not to be read/understand as a single verse as a single verse doesn't really mean the whole thing, as you have pointed above. "Jesus wept" doesn't mean that Jesus cries at all. There has to be an event before and after it. Let's take the following as an example:

God of Jesus: "Anyone who does not love his brother [is of the devil]." (1 John 3:10)

God of Moses: "Go back and forth killing your brother and friend and neighbor" (Exod. 32:27)

In Exodus 32, people started to create an idol. In John 3:10, Jesus taught people. The two events are very different. If you have some time, please read the contradicting verses as a whole chapter so that the events can be realized and contradictions can be resolved.

I have found a good literature on that topic. See here: BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS ANSWERED -- Biblical Errors Mistakes Difficulties Discrepancies Countered

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ngano sa tanang religion sa kalibutan ang catholic man jud... nganong d man ang uban religion inyong e question nya e doubt ilang practices...

hatag lang ko example: second collection sa simbahan, mobayad pamisa, bayad sa baptism <<< these are usual comments sa uban na pangwarta kuno ang simbahan, my opinion is dili man cguro, the church does this para maka serve pag ayo sa mga tao, mag yaw2x man gani mo inig sulod nnu sa cr sa simbahan kay baho, makalingkod mog hugaw na chair, alimout kay walay e.fan or d mo kadungog sa pari kay bati ang sound system... mao ni purpose sa mga collection sa simbahan... laliman kag pag maintain anang simbahan nya walay fundings... d man gani mo moluhod ug walay ludhanan kay hadlok magkabuling inyong tuhod, magpanagana man gani mog hatag ug 50 sa colekta 20 ra jud nya mag doubt2x pa mo ahaha... kung naa man gani mo angay e doubt ug e question mao ang inyong kaugalingon...

if kani lang mga gagmayng butang inyo basihan sa inyong faith then better not believe sa catholic na religion...

Mas daghan man gud og celebrations, practices, and activities ang Catholic Church kaysa ubang religion.

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daghan na kaau nag mga sipyat gipanghimo ang mga catholic church ron,, grabe nasad kaau ang ilang pangwarta.. ug dili hinoon uban nag himo ani,pero naa jud pipila.

You can post the wrong doings of Catholic Church leaders here to be clarified. I should say that not all catholic leaders are doing the job they supposed to day, as a family always have a black sheep.

Ang pag-pangwarta sa simbahan gigamit na para sa needs sa simbahan ug sa mga pari. The priests are alive because of the money from people.