Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

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Kakatapos lang ng "Beatification" ni "Pope" John Paul II. In the Next few days, marami ng maglalabasang mga PICTURES, and SCULPTURES ni John Paul II.

May bagong "Santo" na namang LULUHURAN at SASAMBAHIN ang mga Katoliko.

@ T/S ano pong masasabi nyo? di po ba bawal ito sa Biblia?

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Personal General Sharing
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Thanks for the questions d.a.m.a.s.o.

A very common misconception of Catholics and non-Catholics regarding Catholic's interfacing to saints is the phrase "Catholics worshipped Saints."

Actually, Catholics do not worship Saints. I should say that not all Catholics know that. Few Catholics worshipped Saints today the same way they worship Jesus, which is not what it is supposed to be.

Catholics asked the saints to pray for the living because they are more closer to God in heaven. It is just like a child asking food from his father compared to a friend asking food from that same child's father. It is more easier to ask help from those closer to Him. However, the question is: "Do saints really hear people's prayers?" Another question is "Are there declared saints in hell?"

There are many appearances to people on those who have longed dead centuries ago. Even in the Bible, prophets, angels, and human being, appear on the Apostles of Jesus. This appearance mean that they are sent by God. (You should believe the preceding statement if you're a Christian.) These people, then, are closer to God. So we ask them to pray for us. However, saints should not be interchanged with angels, prophets, and Mary. Saints are ordinary people who is believe that they are now close to God.

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Related Literature with Biblical Evidence
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I have found a good resource (better than mine) on the Communion of Saints believed by Catholics: Biblical Evidence for Catholicism: The Communion of Saints: Biblical Overview

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Final Comment:
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Other religions may not believe my arguments above and may find many hoaxes on it. However, let it be. Every religion has very different interpretations of the Bible. If you Christian but non-Catholics say that their is no saint, Muslims will also say to you that Jesus is not God. What is needed here is acceptance of one's opinion since religion is prone to existence of debate. Let us respect one other and love one another.

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Asa man na gikuha sa mga Katoliko ang mga pangalan sa 3 ka mga pastol nga gi-nganlan ug Melchor, Gaspar ug Baltazar nga wala man na sa Bibliya?

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General Sharing:
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You should also wonder where the number 3 pops out in Catholic faith. The number 3 in the "3 wise men" (not proven to be kings) is assumed from the 3 gifts brought to the baby Jesus in Matthew 2:1-12. However, the Bible doesn't specify the number of wise men, so the Catholic Church assumes 3. This assumption is not a sin of not knowing the truth since this fact is negligible compared to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Their names are obviously not in the Bible. These names are derived from Greek writings in 400 to 500 A.D. Logically, making names to an ancient person whose names are not written into any account is not a sin. It is just like a baby, first found in the trash can, who are now in the hands of the priests may name the baby any name because that baby's irresponsible mother did not care at all.

[ketllac]

For all of us who received our religion tru birth, we should remember that we did not choose our religion somebody does and theres a possibility that they were wrong. So we should first question are own religion then if we are already sure of it then its time to defend it.

When ma na imo birth ba? brod nga ang Katolikong simbahan ni exist naman na sa 1st Century after Christ . However thats a good attitude nga at least mo question ka sa imo pag tuo ba. Theres nothing wrong with that in fact the bible encourages it. Wala man sad mi katoliko nga desperately want you go back to the original/genuine religion historically speaking.

Its Not wrong to transfer to other faith if you find that you no longer agree with the teachings of your religion.

There's nothing wrong to transfer but it's a blunder to transfer out of gullibility. Aside from that it's bad to look at that somebody converted to a different sect based on the premise that all priests are salawayon (sweeping generalization) . and its wrong to transfer without even reflecting, comparing, analyzing the doctrine. The very Idea this bai is not that you agree but something to do with salvation. It's doesn't follow that you don't agree to a certain teaching means a wrong teaching. This would relate to the sayings that says " truth is a hard pill to swallow".

Its Much Better than saying 'Daghan man ko nakita nga sayop sa akong religion Pero cge ra ghapon ko ug simba...'

hahahaha. Pareha ra na sa di na nimo tawgong ginikanan imo papa o mama kay daghan ka nakita ug kasaypanan sa ilang gibuhat.

Do you believe nga naay perpektong organization nga namugna sa kalibutan bai?

let us follow your logic. Kung mao man galing nga ang sayop sa leadership/management imo bases aron ka mo convert to a different sect then ang mahitabo ani sige ka balhin balhin kay based on the fact that walay perpektong management or organization ever founded sa kalibutan unless you can give me one.

dili panghilabot ha tan awa kuno ng protestant Churches. I can give many organization nga nabuhat sa protestantinism nga sige nalang pag mugna ug religion kay ni rebelde sa ila previous religion, kay wala kaangay sa ila religion ni mugna ug iyaha. gi ilisdan lang ug ngalan dayon naa nay sektang nabuhat.

Kung mao man gani na imo reasong nag encourage kag division sa Christianity. akong impression no mura nag tree planting ang Christianity. Murag kitang tanan naay libreng Franchise sa kahitas an. Ing- ana ba ang saktong pangutok sa usa ka Christiano Siodenz?

Tan - awa kuno si St. Francis of assisi as an example nga ni tuligsa sa mga teaching pero wala ni balhin. Mo ingon ka nga natawo kanang born again hinumdumi sad nga nahimo ra ning Born again 16th century na.

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Mas makasasa diay ang mga taw sauna kaysa karon?? diba naghimo si Noah ug ark kay gilimyohan ang kalibutan sa mga dautan..

It is good to imagine that there were many appearances of Holy Beings before than today. Long ago, there were appearance of Mary (the common apparition event is the apparition of Mary of Fatima), and of Jesus (the origin of the Divine Mercy image in most Catholic Churches today). From that alone, it is also reasonable to say that "makasasa pa ang taw karon kaysa sa una" because their are almost no more appearance of Heavenly Beings today.

With the advent of technology and globalization today, people loves to obtain something in an instant. Kasagaran nato mupusta jud og Lotto aron maka-kwarta in an instant. Dili diay maka-kwarta ang taw kung manrabaho? Kasagaran nato init na kaayo og ulo kay ganahan nga madalig abot sa adtoaanan mao ng dili nlng magtan-aw sa traffic signs especially kung gabie. Kasagaran nato pataka lag labay sa basura bisag asa kay kapoy pangita og basurahan. Kasagaran sa mga estudyante karon kay mangupya nalang, ma-assignment man o exam, aron walay hasul ug dili mahagbong. Kasagaran sa mga amahan mangawat nalang para mabuhi ilang pamilya. And so on. Of course, modernization is not bad. But, there should also be effort on people to love one another and not to use modernization to decrease the whole of other person. Worst, most people nowadays are becoming lazy.

The above not enough to say that people today are "more sinners" than people long ago. I say that as a sort of realization to people today including me.

"More sinners" and "Less sinners" mean the same people who are sinners. We should ask God for forgiveness of that sins so that we can empower our love to one another.

[Mr_NicePrice]

I dont know any religion nga WALA nangayo ug kwarta, tanan cguro nangayu ug kwarta including my Religion. Pero wala nah nagpasabot nga SAKTO nah na nga Practice kay tanan nangayu, di ghapon na maayu para nko kay wa na gitudlo sa Bibliya.

unsa diay religion nimo brod? basi lang sa imo post, dili ka catholic... ang akong question nimo, ngano naa paman ka ana na religion karon na u find it wrong man diay considering your religion ask for money man kaha? dapat nihawa naka sa imong religion aron makatuo mi unsa ka ka tinuod sa imong ideas na imong gpangbuhi-an diri sa thread... you sound confusing

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nganong naa man daghan tao nga nagbase sa bibliya? kinsa diay nahimo sa bibliya? dba tao ra sab?

Ato tan-awn ang mga facts karon regarding sa bible:

(1) Almost 90% of Christians today have Bibles at home.
(2) The bible is used in any Christian religion, not just Catholics.
(3) The bible is the basis of Christian morality. Diha ta nakahibaw nga ang pagpatay og taw kay sala.

Gi-unsa kaha ni pagkasikat sa bible nga taw rman kahay nag-buhat ani?

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Actually, the books in the bible are written by people who are witnesses to the events at that time. Let's take the gospel of Matthew as an example in terms of analogy:

Gisuwat sa usa ka taw ang nakita niya nga panghitabo, maybe because of remembrance sa mga UNFORGETTABLE, IMPORTANT and INTERESTING events with Jesus, and maybe to be passed on sa iyang mga anak. Ang kani iyang gisuwat kay nakatag sa ubang mga taw ug ni-sikat. Kung bakak palang ni, gika-taw-an unta ni iyang storya ug gilabaylabay. Since katong panahona sa iyang pagsuwat kay buhi pa ang mga apostoles ni Hesus, nakakita ang mga apostoles niini. Gi-approbahan ni sa apostoloes nga tinood ni nga nahitabo. Gikan sa kamatayon ni Kristo ug hangtod nga nangamatay ang tanang apostles ni Hesus ug sa kataposan sa misyon ni Pedro, gikatag ni ang sinulat sa taw inubanan sa mga saksi niini.

That means that the books in the Bible were not written similar to how writers write novels. It is also important to realize that not all events are written in the Bible, just as your own personal story cannot be written in a 1000 page book. Only the interesting, important, and unforgettable experience is written.


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It is good to realize that the 4 Gospels were written by different people without communication with the 4 of them. See their similarities. This is also one proof that the Bible, particularly the Gospels, is true. The Gospel of Judas is very different from the 4 Gospels and is not approved by the Apostles of Christ. So, the Church did not declare it as the 5th gospel.

[monmon]

tungod sa kalisod sa panahon karon ang simbahan ghimo na negosyo sa uban mga tawo instead nga mangau ra ug donations pareha sa una panahon.... laliman ka ang pagpamisa lang, before pwd ra pila imo ihatag if magpamisa pero now naa nay rate kong magpamisa ka sa kalag...

[Mr_NicePrice]

wala bai. kana gud misa sa patay ug unsa panang misaha diha mahal kaayo.

ngano naka ingon man kag mahal na wala paman diay ka kasuway ug bayad...



i dont know the concept sa uban regarding sa pag bayad sa services sa church or sa pag amot... sa ako is money na naa nimo ron is grasya gkan sa ginoo, so y man ma problema ka na gikan mana sa Ginoo, so y not give it back to him... mas arang2x pa gani ang catholic kay inig misa pwede ra bisan 25 centavos imo ihatag sa collection, ang uban religion a certain percentage sa imong declared income...

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Yes, we can say our religion is Not perfect But the question is Unsay atung gibuhat nga kahibalo man tah daghan sayop atung religion? Pasagdan ba natu nga magsubay ta sa mga pamaagi nga kahibalo man tang sayop? or mangita ta ug paagi nga makakita sa saktong tinudloan.

Let what you see wrong about the Catholic Church be posted here as a question and we will settle it. However, openness and respect is needed to have a good transmission of opinions and beliefs to minimize debate.

I would also like to point out that being religious is different from being good. Bisan pag kadaadlaw ko musimba og naa ko sa tanang activities sa simbahan, dili na assurance nga buotan ko og naa koy gugma sa akong isig ka taw.

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mag rosaryo, wa may bisan usa ka tao nag rosaryo sa bible..

A good observation. I assume you are asking here, "asa gikan ang pag-rosaryo nga wala man na sa Bible?"

Not everything is written in the Bible. You will spend more than 1000 bond-paper pages of your book which contains all the events of your life from birth until now. What is written in the Bible is only the unforgettable, important, and interesting events. That's it about the bible.

The praying of the Rosary is the event long after the very last event written in the Bible. There were many apparitions happening on different places. These apparitions from different places usually talks about praying the Rosary. From there onwards, the Catholic Church make it as a tradition for people to pray the rosary.

As a side note, obviously, the prayers in the rosary does not came from evil so there is no questioning whether the praying of the Rosary is good or bad. Mary, herself, is also not the devil because she said to love one another and to pray to God everyday: "The family that prays together stays together", she said on one of her apparitions.

For more information, please read this: History of the Rosary