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    Default Re: Mayweather Vs Ortiz - Kinsa man juy sad an??


    If you missed Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s victory over Victor Ortiz tonight, let me lay out the situation for you. We neared the end of fourth round of a fight that I was set to score 40-36 for Mayweather. Ortiz backed Mayweather into the ropes near one of the corners, throwing a flurry of punches that Mayweather did his usual dance to avoid. All of a sudden, Ortiz, literally, jumps a headbutt into Floyd's chin. Referee Joe Cortez breaks the fighters up and deducts a point from Ortiz. What happens next is tricky.

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    The only footage I have of the incident is this GIF, which starts with Cortez motioning something to the two fighters. (I've been alerted on Twitter that the fight had officially been restarted, per the post-fight press conference) Ortiz steps toward Mayweather to hug and apologize for the butt. (It should be noted that he already did so while Mayweather stood stunned in the corner.) Floyd brings his hands up as if to defend, Ortiz embraces and steps away, and Floyd clocks him with a vicious left hook. Ortiz, stunned, stares at Cortez, eats a straight right, and hits the canvas. Fight over.

    Now, whatever argument was left about the legality of Floyd's attack is out the window with the revelation that Cortez had restarted the fight. The last thing a referee tells a fighter is to "protect yourself at all times." Ortiz failed to do that, and he paid mightily for it.

    My Twitter feed, even after the revelation at the press conference, is still full of those condemning Mayweather's left hook-right straight. Some are calling it unethical; others, cowardly. Mayweather did nothing wrong here. He broke no rules, unwritten or otherwise.

    The blame rests squarely on Victor Ortiz. Referee Joe Cortez ("I'm fair but I'm firm!") did an underwhelming job of controlling the situation, but the same thing could have very well happened had his eyes been fixed on the two fighters and not at the timekeeper, who he was instructing to restart the clock.

    No, Ortiz shares the full blame here. First, for his very illegal and very blatant headbutt in the corner. Second, for not protecting himself at all times -- not only as he disengaged from Floyd, but as he stared at Cortez after the left hook, hands at his sides, a sitting (standing) duck.

    I've played sports since I was a little kid. One of the things drilled into my head at a young age is that you play until the whistle. You play until the referee tells you to stop. I've had a long-running hatred of glove taps and hugging in the cage, and it's for this very reason. You're not playing the game anymore.

    That's why a referee will ask fighters to touch gloves before the fight starts in order to avoid this kind of situations. no more hugging or touching gloves when fight starts.
    Last edited by doi; 09-19-2011 at 01:55 AM.

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    Default Re: Mayweather Vs Ortiz - Kinsa man juy sad an??

    it's Boxing 101 - Protect Yourself At All Times...

    u head butt me, i knock you out
    Newton's Law - For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

    Payback's A Bitch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    It was a sign of guilt sa iyang intentional headbutt. cgeg sorry sag nag sorry na.. later na unta siya nag sorry inig ka finish sa fight.
    for me lang i think it clearly shows how sorry he is for the headbutt he made mao na he kept on saying sorry eventhough the referee resumed the fight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    It was a sign of guilt sa iyang intentional headbutt. cgeg sorry sag nag sorry na.. later na unta siya nag sorry inig ka finish sa fight.
    mao gani as you stated it was a sign of guilt.. mao na for him saying sorry once is not enough thus making another sorry coz im sure for him saying sory once was not enough.. diba mao man ta if maguilty ta coz out of the blue you did something wrong which you know na you shouldn't have done..?

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    hmmm the way i see it was this.. sila tanan naay fault jud.. by the way how i see they made these mistakes of their own..

    referee: resumed the fight but clearly his eyes were'nt where they should be. his eyes should have been on both boxers whom he resumed the fight

    ortiz: not putting up his guard after he said sorry the 2nd time, and not putting his guard again after he was hit the first time.

    mayweather: he didn't allow his opponent to keep his guard up as a sign for his readiness of the resumed battle before charging in.


    outcome: questionable na hinuon kaau why mayweather did that and thus staining his name.. questionable in a sense na maybe mayweather was threatened of losing the battle.. though i know how tough mayweather really is.. staining his name among live viewers and thus displaying to the live public his real attitude and personality.. (and here i thought mayweather was innocent of the accusations being thrown at him outside the ring, but i guess not..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by doi View Post
    My Twitter feed, even after the revelation at the press conference, is still full of those condemning Mayweather's left hook-right straight. Some are calling it unethical; others, cowardly. Mayweather did nothing wrong here. He broke no rules, unwritten or otherwise.
    hmmm wala lang napahuna2 lang ko ani na statement and what popped in my mind.. diba boxing is sports? ummm should we still consider how mayweather reacted by boxing an unprepared fighter? would this still make him sportsman-like or ethical sportsman?

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    atots, kung tarong pa to nga duwa, dli jud to mu take advantage c mayweather sa clean shot. unsaon taman, sobra ug kompyansa si ortiz..gtake advantage to ni mayweather kay kabalo xa nga dili dali tiwason ang fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    Too bad Money May doesnt care about! All he wants is to keep his undefeated record and collect his paycheck!
    hehehe mao pud jud.. sayang lang kay he got the skills and talent, he could have made lots of good things out of it just as what pacquiao is doing.. well, mayweather is mayweather, and pacquiao is pacquiao..

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    Quote Originally Posted by p26 View Post
    atots, kung tarong pa to nga duwa, dli jud to mu take advantage c mayweather sa clean shot. unsaon taman, sobra ug kompyansa si ortiz..gtake advantage to ni mayweather kay kabalo xa nga dili dali tiwason ang fight.
    sakto pud jud ka ani bro..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albrecht View Post
    hmmm wala lang napahuna2 lang ko ani na statement and what popped in my mind.. diba boxing is sports? ummm should we still consider how mayweather reacted by boxing an unprepared fighter? would this still make him sportsman-like or ethical sportsman?
    unsportsmanlike behavior, it happens in every sport. like it or not it ain't illegal to be an ass and every sport needs one..

    remember Mayweather is defensive fighter and preys on fighter's who let their guards down. He protects himself at all times and his opponent should do the same. Every fighter knows that and even before the fight starts the referee reminds them about that also..

    because Victor was unprepared is not an excuse... "apil gai ka'g gubat kinanglan andam ka permi..."
    Last edited by doi; 09-19-2011 at 06:08 AM.

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