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    @Hellblazer 2.1: So fake d i to ang pag launch sa space shuttle? e post daw ang source nmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarantado07 View Post
    @Hellblazer 2.1: So fake d i to ang pag launch sa space shuttle?
    unsay gi-hisgutan nato diri? ang first lunar landing or ang pag launch sa space shuttle?

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    If they "ruled off" returning to the lunar surface, why the hell did they go back 6 times (with 1 failed landing, being AP13)?

    Mysticism at work again. *shakes head*

    IMPORTANT: The only reason why you are reading this thread? Is because you cannot afford (in both time and money reasons) to buy and watch these:


    Apollo 11: To The Moon (Pre-Order)


    Apollo 11: Men on the Moon


    Apollo 12: Ocean of Storms


    Apollo 14: To Fra Mauro


    Apollo 15: Man Must Explore


    Apollo 16: Journey to Descartes


    Apollo 17: End of the Beginning

    ...and the only time and money you have is for a lousy YouTube video. Shakes head.

    They cost US $85.00+ dollars each, and lets assume you have the money to buy them, are you prepared to spend 3 months watching them? Yes, 3 months, because each of the sets contains 3 DVDs (Apollo 11-12), 5 DVDs (Apollo 14) and 6 DVDs (Apollo 15-17)...and assuming you'd watch the FULL footages (including training and etc.) at an average of 2 hours a night, it would take you three months to finish watching everything!

    Unya time sa...let's see if you can survive watching it all, and understanding a portion of the conversation between Houston and the two men on the surface...



    119:07:07 Parker: Okay, and Geno, we'd like to vary the parking a little bit because of this. We'd like to try and get those batteries cooled down. We'd like to have you park about 60 feet north of the Central Station. And facing east. Facing down-Sun. And then we'll open the battery covers.

    [Don McMillan has provided an animation ( 0.8 Mb ) of the battery covers on his Virtual Rover being opened.]

    119:07:34 Cernan: Hey, Bob, I can't read you, but "facing east" and "down-Sun" are not the same.

    [Because it is early morning at Taurus-Littrow, the down-Sun direction is just a little north of west.]

    119:07:41 Parker: Well, approximately there.

    119:07:45 Cernan: Jack, you need your block? I got it right here.

    119:07:48 Parker: Facing...

    119:07:49 Schmitt: You're on the Rover, aren't you?

    119:07:50 Parker: Facing...

    119:07:51 Cernan: I got it, wait a minute.

    119:07:56 Parker: Hey, Geno, we mean up-Sun. Sorry about that. (Long Pause)

    119:08:13 Cernan: I got your block coming, Jack.

    119:08:14 Schmitt: Okay. (Long Pause)

    119:08:34 Cernan: Boy, it doesn't take much to get those battery covers dirty. (Lost under Bob)

    [Gene got off the Rover to get the block Jack dropped earlier and, then, as he got back on, probably kicked dirt on the battery covers.]

    119:08:40 Parker: Okay, Gene, did you copy me that we meant facing up-Sun?

    119:08:50 Cernan: Yeah, Bob. (Pause) (To himself as he fastens his seat belt) What did I do, get fatter? Okay; must have got fat. (Pause)

    119:09:06 Schmitt: Bob, the shorting plug meter is 90 percent scale to the right.

    119:09:16 Parker: Okay, copy that.

    [After arriving at the ALSEP deployment site, Jack performed the ALSEP interconnect tasks listed on LMP-14, then off-loaded the Heat Flow Electronics (HFE) package because Gene was delayed at the LM by the fender accident, and has just read the shorting-plug meter as per the fourth line on LMP-16. The meter is on the end of the cable that Jack is about to attach to the Central Station.]

    [Schmitt - "Because the RTG was producing power when we hadn't yet hooked up any of the equipment, they had what was called a shorting plug that basically allowed current to flow out of the RTG and then back into itself. And, obviously, some resistance had been put somewhere in the circuit it made so that the power source wouldn't burn itself out."]

    119:09:21 Cernan: Okay, Bob, give me that parking heading again, would you?

    119:09:25 Parker: Okay, we'd like you to park facing the Sun. How's that for being definite.

    119:09:32 Cernan: Okay.

    119:09:33 Parker: About 60 feet north of the Central Station.

    119:09:37 Cernan: Sixty feet north of Central Station. I can't park a little northeast? Huh? Now, okay, and you want the battery covers open?

    [Houston wants him to face the Rover into the Sun so that, by opening the battery covers he will put the battery radiators in shadow, and let them cool. By parking north of the Central Station, Houston would still have good TV coverage of the ALSEP deployment, despite the new Rover orientation. As it turns out, as per CDR-15 Gene will park 60 feet northeast of the Central Station but with the vehicle facing east. The TV coverage is still pretty good.]

    [Cernan - "As I remember, if I was at the front of the Rover facing the back, the battery covers would open toward me. So if you parked the Rover facing east, the covers would shadow the batteries from the Sun and let them cool."]

    119:09:44 Parker: That's affirmative, Gene. And that means you will have to dust them before you open them.

    119:09:51 Cernan: Yeah, I guess so. Man, am I glad I didn't land up here, Jack!

    119:09:57 Schmitt: So am I. (Pause)

    [Compared with the landing site, the ALSEP area has many more large rocks and a bit more relief.]

    119:10:04 Schmitt: Okay, ALSEP is connected; RTG is connected.

    [Jack has just plugged the RTG cable into the Central Station.]

    119:10:07 Cernan: Is that where you're going to have the Central Station, huh?

    119:10:09 Schmitt: Well, Geno, that's the best I can do without spending a lot more time.

    119:10:12 Cernan: Yeah.

    119:10:14 Schmitt: And let me talk to you about it. I asked them about this depression.

    119:10:22 Cernan: Yeah.

    [Jack is referring to a small, local depression rather than the swale. See LMP-15 for the planned ALSEP layout.]

    119:10:23 Schmitt: Your (heat flow) probes are all right out in here. And if you get in the bottom of it for the...either this one, or go out there - essentially in the straight line between you and me now - (there's) another depression (that) would be good for the neutron flux. (Pause) You need to be over that way...you're just a...

    119:10:42 Cernan: Yeah, they want me to park about here where...

    119:10:45 Schmitt: You need to be over here.

    119:10:46 Cernan: Where's Central Station, right there, huh?

    119:10:48 Schmitt: You need to...

    119:10:50 Cernan: Yeah, I've got to park in the Sun for the batteries.

    119:10:52 Schmitt: Oh, okay.

    [Obviously, Jack had been busy with his own work during the parking discussion and hadn't consciously heard what Bob said.]

    119:10:54 Parker: Okay, 17, for your planning...

    119:10:54 Cernan: Okay, about 60 feet northeast. How does it look behind me.

    119:10:57 Parker: Okay, 17, for your planning, we're now about 20 minutes behind the timeline.

    119:11:01 Schmitt: (Talking to Gene, who is maneuvering the Rover) That's good, Gene. That's good. (To Bob) You're cutting out, Bob. You'll have to wait. (Pause)

    [While he is busy parking the Rover, Gene isn't adjusting the low-gain antenna, so communications with Earth are momentarily bad.]

    119:11:10 Cernan: What are you, Bob?

    119:11:12 Parker: Roger, we're about twenty minutes behind the timeline, two-zero minutes.

    119:11:17 Cernan: Okay. Well, I guess it could be worse, considering a couple of things. Okay, about time I got those batteries. Okay, Jack, let me give you this first, so I can get to work.

    119:11:36 Schmitt: Oh; the block.

    119:11:37 Cernan: Yeah.



    See?

    Now, kamo, kakita lang mo'g 10 minute YOUTUBE VIDEO...PASTILAN! Mag conclude na dayon mo nga "AAAAHHH! Sakto no?!?!?! Naay ALIEN SA MOON!" Pastilannnn kamabaw.

    So let's all have a gentleman's agreement. After you've bought all those films and watched them for 3 months, come back to this thread and tell me once again what you believe in.

    Alternate solution:

    Visit this site: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ and read it and download everything you can find (I have), and tell me again, after you've gone through everthing...tell me again, what you believe in.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 03-24-2009 at 06:37 PM.

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    murag layu na ning topica... hehehe

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    Another funny issue with you "Wala nag-adto sa moon ang Apollo" people...why do you always focus on Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin when there are 10 other people (7 still living) who walked on the moon?

    Let me introduce them:

    APOLLO 12, SECOND manned landing on Oceanus Procellarus, November 19, 1969

    Charles "Pete" Conrad, Commander of Apollo 12 (deceased)


    Alan "Beano" Bean, Lunar Module Pilot, Apollo 12



    APOLLO 14, THIRD manned landing, Fra Mauro Highlands, February 5, 1971
    Alan Shepard, Commander, Apollo 14 (Deceased)


    Edgar Mitchell, Lunar Module Pilot, Apollo 14



    Apollo 15, 4th manned landing, Hadley-Apennine Region, July 30, 1971

    Dave Scott, Commander


    Jim Irwin, Lunar Module Pilot (deceased)



    Apollo 16, 5th manned landing, Descartes Highlands, April 21, 1972

    John Young, Commander


    Charlie Duke, Lunar Module Pilot



    Apollo 17, sixth manned landing, Taurus-Littrow Valley, December 11, 1972.

    Eugene Cernan, Commander


    Harrison Schmitt, first scientist (Geologist) on the moon, Lunar Module Pilot


    So you're basically telling me that these seven guys above, who are still alive and well today (excluding the ones that died, and Neil and Buzz), ALL SAW ALIENS ON THE MOON...sheesh.

    Read and learn.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 03-24-2009 at 06:59 PM.

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    they say that the first landing didn't happen, nagwave daw ang flag which is not possible kay la daw wind sa moon...but i'm not sure...

    disclaimer dayon kay basig masipa ta ni sir rodsky

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    waaaaa.. Epistaxis ko dah!! thumbs up ko ani!!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aguel View Post
    im not sure if armstrong was telling the truth. in the first place, there was no real moon landing in apollo 11.
    ila ra tong gi shoot sa studio para gamiton nga propaganda during sa cold war. para mo appear nga superior gyud ang technology ug achievement sa u.s. compared sa ussr nindot ni nga conspiracy theory, basin diay tinuod

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    Clavius Moon Base - debunking the moon hoax

    Dili man ko manipa, tig remind lang ko nga kitang tanan, naay utok. Ug since naa tay utok, gamita pod nato intawon usahay. Manipa ra man ko pag sipaon pod ko.

    Clavius Moon Base - debunking the moon hoax

    Read and learn. All your questions about flag waving and no stars etc, are answered here, provided you have a healthy knowledge of basic physics and natural science skills.

    And again, before you post in this thread again, please tell me (better yet, explain to me) what is a TLi burn (how it works, etc.) and the explain thoroughly how the Van Allen Belts work. If you can do both of these, then yes, you have every right to post in this thread. If wala, then all you're going to post is rubbish and nothing else but rubbish. Why do I label them as rubbish? Because any information that will mislead the general public about the actual physics and calculations involved in a lunar mission is all rubbish, and it would be criminal to terrorize and confuse people by fantastic, unfounded claims.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 03-24-2009 at 08:06 PM.

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    sooo just go buy those dvd to enlighten the curiosity of you people that we did realy land on the moon? is that what you trying to say!?$$ lolsu! i know majority of the people dont know that theres a second third or watsaeva landing did happen.. ffff moon landing is controversy, how come NASA just dnt give a damn, ok we have the second now ok the third the 6th landing,, oh!? you people dont know yet?? lolx come on..buy our dvd....

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