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    Quote Originally Posted by iczyes View Post
    beating bodies? hahaha what a term!(wink!)
    ano po ibig sabihin nun?

    i agree with you , may chemicals in the brain that may lead us to euphoric states
    maybe meron ding iba pang kemikals other than DMT...
    we dont know yet ano yun...DMT may be a start for discovering these other chemicals
    kaya more research pa ang kailangan sa tingin ko...
    sana may magsuporta sa kanila...usually these kind of research kse are not well funded
    or funded by the scientist himself... unlike pharmaceutical research

    what ive learned sa medicine...
    yung opium and narcotic drugs
    alter the mood of a person by altering the chemical balance in the brain

    what ive learned in energy healing...
    drug addicts have destroyed the "sieve" or petals of the ajna or "third eye" chakras
    kaya nga they claim to see things like monsters, demons, etc
    kase they were forcefully opened by overdosage of these narcotics
    so they cannot tell what's real and what's not
    ung ajna chakra na nasira out of this habit is hard to heal
    and mostly hindi na naibabalik...kaya nga...ending nila...dementia.

    oh you never heard yogis beating their bodies to reached enlightenment or yoga?

    The Experts already said that DMT is responsible for these.

    Question, are you an expert on this field mam/sir?

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    Yeah, that's scary. hahaha
    Quote Originally Posted by joan624 View Post
    just wanna ask, if forcefully opened ang third eye sa mga drug addicts cuz of narcotic abuse,
    is it possible that those they claim to be seeing are indeed real? not just hallucinations?

    hala scary!!! eheheheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by joan624 View Post
    just wanna ask, if forcefully opened ang third eye sa mga drug addicts cuz of narcotic abuse,
    is it possible that those they claim to be seeing are indeed real? not just hallucinations?

    hala scary!!! eheheheh
    carlos castaneda's teacher, Don Juan Matus, once said that there is another reality that co-exists with our own. it's a non-ordinary reality, but real nonetheless. our concept of reality is so limited to the five senses that when we sometimes experience something out of the ordinary, we dismiss it as illusion.

    maybe what those drug addicts experienced or sensed are fleeting glimpses of non-ordinary reality but because their bodies are not attuned or prepared for it, they go nuts.

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    here's another related video, an experiment on magnetic stimulation of the brain to induce out-of-body experiences.

    YouTube - Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keldricus View Post
    here's another related video, an experiment on magnetic stimulation of the brain to induce out-of-body experiences.

    YouTube - Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment
    this is something. ('c',)

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    Quote Originally Posted by joan624 View Post
    just wanna ask, if forcefully opened ang third eye sa mga drug addicts cuz of narcotic abuse,
    is it possible that those they claim to be seeing are indeed real? not just hallucinations?

    hala scary!!! eheheheh
    possible but it depends...
    ibat ibang states kase of 'reality'
    mostly what people see kapag kakabukas pa lamang ng ajna chakra
    ay projections ng kanilang psychological states of mind
    kapag na-discern na kung ano ang kanila at ano ang hindi kanila but belonging to another energy form
    like ghost for example or elemental
    ung cunang features na makikita mo sa enitity na iyon ay galing pa rin sa archetypal symbology
    ng mind mo...kaya usually clairvoyants group together to confirm each other's perceptions
    ang tingin ng isang clairvoyant posibleng iba sa iba
    kaya tingin ko..maaaring totoo nga na meron un
    or maaaring hindi kasi mind projection nila un
    its either way kapag bukas ang ajna chakra mo
    eh kung addict ang isang tao...hindi niya nasasara un at will
    unlike clairvoyants...kaya tuluyang naprapraning
    imagine 24/7 ka hina-haunt ng sarili mong demonyo at demonyo ng iba...hehehehe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    oh you never heard yogis beating their bodies to reached enlightenment or yoga?

    The Experts already said that DMT is responsible for these.

    Question, are you an expert on this field mam/sir?
    do you mean ung flagellation?
    or ung bugbog to the max?
    hahaha, i was just amused by your term
    havent seen or done that kind of meditation
    the only meditation may beat na nagawa ko ay ung
    Kalipa-Mu/inner dance/ Babaylan dance/sould dance (daming names...same principle)
    so would appreciate if you share about this kind of meditation
    and if you have experienced it yourself,
    have you reached the heightened state of consciousness sa ganitong pamamaraan?
    kase psychologically speaking, the mind can actually don't mind the physical stimuli
    tulad nung dentist na ginagamit ang visualization at meditation instead of anesthesia
    para hindi mapansin ung sakit...very effective.

    sa 2nd question mo, bakit nyo po naitatanong?
    im a student of this universe like everybody else...
    have been studying, searching, journeying spirituality, occultism and the paranormal
    for more than a decade na...still, i say, im still a student
    keeping an open mind and heart to everything
    processing and trying to experience as much as i can
    i share what i know in the hope of learning more from others
    ganun lang poh...
    if you're asking about titles/degrees/etc.
    well ang mga titles and degrees have no weight nor meaning sa akin
    meron nga jan eh...they parade that master or doctorate kuno-hay ng divinities
    na nakukuha lamang pala online...bayad ka na...bibigyan kalang babasahin
    tapus ayun me degree ka na...hahahaha
    well kanila yun...nothing against them...if it suits them...oki..sa akin...meaningless.
    (charing ang drama koh!)
    love and light to ye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    carlos castaneda's teacher, Don Juan Matus, once said that there is another reality that co-exists with our own. it's a non-ordinary reality, but real nonetheless. our concept of reality is so limited to the five senses that when we sometimes experience something out of the ordinary, we dismiss it as illusion.

    maybe what those drug addicts experienced or sensed are fleeting glimpses of non-ordinary reality but because their bodies are not attuned or prepared for it, they go nuts.
    Carlos Castaneda's A separate reality!

    Contoversial talaga ang mga book ni Castaneda

    kase ang mga alternate reality ni Don Juan ay drug-induced din kase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keldricus View Post
    here's another related video, an experiment on magnetic stimulation of the brain to induce out-of-body experiences.

    YouTube - Michael Shermer Out of Body Experiment
    i like his last statement...paranormal in science becomes normal

    it actually makes sense...stimulation ng electromagnetic energy
    pero ang tanong, saan manggagaling ang electromagnetic (EM) stimulation sa brain?
    the brain in itself doesnt conduct any stimulation, rather only processes it
    kahit hiwain mo ung brain na gising ka, hindi mo mararamdaman
    (ung sakit lang sa meninges ang mararamdaman ng tao)
    samakatuwid, ang EM stimulation ay manggagaling sa senses pa rin
    at lalakbay neuron to neuron via axonal transmission
    hanggang makarating sa brain at mainterpret ito
    sa experiment nila, medyo nilocalize lang sa temporal lobe ng brain
    saan ang source ng Electromagnetic stimulation?
    eh siyempre sa mga subtle energy forms na hindi naten napepercieve physically
    like the aura of a person, ghosts, portals, vortices, and the list goes on
    even sa paranormal investigations, ginagamit ang EMF...eletromagnetic frequency readers
    to detect paranormal activity...so its safe to say that possible source ng electromagnetic stimulation
    ay ung mga energy forms and the experiment proves to show that humans
    have the capability to detect it!

    tnx for sharing this interesting video Keldricus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iczyes View Post
    do you mean ung flagellation?
    or ung bugbog to the max?
    hahaha, i was just amused by your term
    havent seen or done that kind of meditation
    the only meditation may beat na nagawa ko ay ung
    Kalipa-Mu/inner dance/ Babaylan dance/sould dance (daming names...same principle)
    so would appreciate if you share about this kind of meditation
    and if you have experienced it yourself,
    have you reached the heightened state of consciousness sa ganitong pamamaraan?
    kase psychologically speaking, the mind can actually don't mind the physical stimuli
    tulad nung dentist na ginagamit ang visualization at meditation instead of anesthesia
    para hindi mapansin ung sakit...very effective.

    sa 2nd question mo, bakit nyo po naitatanong?
    im a student of this universe like everybody else...
    have been studying, searching, journeying spirituality, occultism and the paranormal
    for more than a decade na...still, i say, im still a student
    keeping an open mind and heart to everything
    processing and trying to experience as much as i can
    i share what i know in the hope of learning more from others
    ganun lang poh...
    if you're asking about titles/degrees/etc.
    well ang mga titles and degrees have no weight nor meaning sa akin
    meron nga jan eh...they parade that master or doctorate kuno-hay ng divinities
    na nakukuha lamang pala online...bayad ka na...bibigyan kalang babasahin
    tapus ayun me degree ka na...hahahaha
    well kanila yun...nothing against them...if it suits them...oki..sa akin...meaningless.
    (charing ang drama koh!)
    love and light to ye!

    So di mo talaga naririnig na me mga yogi noon, before Siddarta became Buddha who would beat their bodies and inflict pain to reach trance and enlightenment? you should read more,hehe.

    I have friends na maraming tattoos i asked them how they were able to endure the pain brought by the needles. most of them would say na they just withdraw their senses from the pain and concnetrate on something else and then at some point ma relax na ung brain nila and then although they can sense the pain,pero ung utak nila is someplace else duplicating a trance-like state.



    Well i ask you because You are tryinmg to disqualify a theory done by people who are expert on this field. These people have degress. In Sceince you have to give a better theory supported by factual data, Now if you cant produce one then your criticism against this people is null and avoid, in other words your own version cant be trusted and lacks professional point of view.

    oh you dont respect people w/ degrees and your examples are degrees taken from online school. Well,its still a degree. But focus, the men who are doing this research are not of this kind.LOLZ


    Well you can give your amatuer point of view just like mine but it is in no way credible and factual. But to discredit their expert findings (produce by proper experiments,guided by excperienced scientist) is layo ra kaau sa tinood.

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