can we really shut down the virtual mem in winxp?

[simoncpu]

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guys, ga-experiment ko sa virtual mem settings ng akong pc. karon, set nako sa "no paging file" ang pc ko. then i played NFSMW for 3 hours straight while downloading a game and movie via bitcomet.

I'm curious... why do you want to do this?

even with 4GB of ram dli advisable e shutdown ang pagefile as some games/apps are desgined to store some data sa pagefile.

Hmmm... weird... Can you pls give us examples of programs that do this? AFAIK, paging is completely abstracted from user programs. They don't know or care where the actual memory resides.

[ simon.cpu ]

[akari]

try playing FEAR with paging file disabled.

[cyber_urbantribe]

guys, ga-experiment ko sa virtual mem settings ng akong pc. karon, set nako sa "no paging file" ang pc ko. then i played NFSMW for 3 hours straight while downloading a game and movie via bitcomet.

I'm curious... why do you want to do this?

even with 4GB of ram dli advisable e shutdown ang pagefile as some games/apps are desgined to store some data sa pagefile.

Hmmm... weird... Can you pls give us examples of programs that do this? AFAIK, paging is completely abstracted from user programs. They don't know or care where the actual memory resides.

[ simon.cpu ]

its like asking why people turns auto play off. answer: auto play is somewhat annoying. why do i need to tweak my page file? just for the sake of finding out if its any good.

[cyber_urbantribe]

try playing FEAR with paging file disabled.

basically, its impossible. maybe if u have 100gb of ram.

[EarlZ]

guys, ga-experiment ko sa virtual mem settings ng akong pc. karon, set nako sa "no paging file" ang pc ko. then i played NFSMW for 3 hours straight while downloading a game and movie via bitcomet.

99% of the adobe software such as photoshop and illustrator,
videoediting softwares such as premier and other crap
video encoding softwares, rendering softwares such as AutoCad,3Dmax, lightwave,maya and ect
games like FEAR and ect.



I'm curious... why do you want to do this?

even with 4GB of ram dli advisable e shutdown ang pagefile as some games/apps are desgined to store some data sa pagefile.

Hmmm... weird... Can you pls give us examples of programs that do this? AFAIK, paging is completely abstracted from user programs. They don't know or care where the actual memory resides.

[ simon.cpu ]

Programs like Adobe Photoshop and illustrator, premier and others..
rendering apps like Autocad, 3dsmax, lightwave , maya and ect..
and some games are built to use PF regardless of the ram you have.

[tolstoi]

SUMMARY
The paging file (Pagefile.sys) is a hidden file on your computer's hard disk that Windows XP uses as if it were random access memory (RAM). The paging file and physical memory make up virtual memory. By default, Windows stores the paging file on the boot partition (the partition that contains the operating system and its support files). The default, or recommended, paging file size is equal to 1.5 times the total RAM. This article discusses how to configure the paging file for system optimization and recovery.

To enhance performance, it is good practice to put the paging file on a different partition and on a different physical hard disk drive. That way, Windows can handle multiple I/O requests more quickly. When the paging file is on the boot partition, Windows must perform disk reading and writing requests on both the system folder and the paging file. When the paging file is moved to a different partition, there is less competition between reading and writing requests.

However, if you remove the paging file from the boot partition, Windows cannot create a dump file (Memory.dmp) in which to write debugging information in the event that a kernel mode Stop Error message occurs. This could lead to extended downtime if you must debug to troubleshoot the Stop error message.

The optimal solution is to create one paging file that is stored on the boot partition, and then create one paging file on another partition that is less frequently accessed on a different physical hard disk if a different physical hard disk is available. Additionally, it is optimal to create the second paging file so that it exists on its own partition, with no data or operating-system-specific files. By design, Windows uses the paging file on the less frequently accessed partition over the paging file on the more heavily accessed boot partition. An internal algorithm is used to determine which paging file to use for virtual memory management.

When you put a paging file on its own partition, the paging file does not become fragmented, and this counts as another definite advantage. If a paging file resides on a partition that contains other data, it may experience fragmentation as it expands to satisfy the extra virtual memory that is required. An unfragmented paging file leads to faster virtual memory access and to a greater chance of a dump-file capture that is free of significant errors.

If you follow these recommendations, you meet the following paging file configuration goals for optimization and recovery:
• The system is correctly configured to capture a Memory.dmp file if the computer experiences a kernel mode Stop Error.
• The paging file on the less frequently accessed partition is used most frequently because it is on a partition that is least busy.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314482

[akari]

basically, its impossible. maybe if u have 100gb of ram.

Nope, 100gb of RAM is overkill.

On my system FEAR can runs fine with 512MB of Physical RAM + 600MB Virtual Memory.

So FEAR can run without any problems with 1112MB of Virtual+RAM.

I think with 2gb physical RAM its possible to disable your Paging file. :mrgreen:

@tolstoi:
Another tip paging file can become fragmented if you set a very small minimum virtual memory and very large maximum virtual mem.
To prevent fragmentation of virtual memory try setting the minimum virtual memory equal to the maximum. This way the paging file remains intact as an unmovable reserved file.

[tolstoi]

^^nice tip akari.

i used to set my paging files to [custom] 128mb min & 384mb max...i have 768MB of RAM.

[simoncpu]

its like asking why people turns auto play off. answer: auto play is somewhat annoying. why do i need to tweak my page file? just for the sake of finding out if its any good.

Wa ko connect. Anyway, good luck. Swapping only kicks in whenever there is insufficient RAM; Winblows automatically pages out inactive pages from physical memory. I think you wanted to improve the performance of your PC. The solution is to buy more RAM or disable unecessary services that eat your memory-- not disable the swap file.

Programs like Adobe Photoshop and illustrator, premier and others..
rendering apps like Autocad, 3dsmax, lightwave , maya and ect..
and some games are built to use PF regardless of the ram you have.

Well, this is not the the paging file (Pagefile.sys) that Winblows uses...

[ simon.cpu ]

[cyber_urbantribe]

its like asking why people turns auto play off. answer: auto play is somewhat annoying. why do i need to tweak my page file? just for the sake of finding out if its any good.

Wa ko connect. Anyway, good luck. Swapping only kicks in whenever there is insufficient RAM; Winblows automatically pages out inactive pages from physical memory. I think you wanted to improve the performance of your PC. The solution is to buy more RAM or disable unecessary services that eat your memory-- not disable the swap file.

Programs like Adobe Photoshop and illustrator, premier and others..
rendering apps like Autocad, 3dsmax, lightwave , maya and ect..
and some games are built to use PF regardless of the ram you have.

Well, this is not the the paging file (Pagefile.sys) that Winblows uses...

[ simon.cpu ]

gibalik na nako sa based sa ram. min 1152mb and max 1152 also. ga-prepare ko sa Boiling Point na game.