Palace Declares State of Emergency

[mosimos]

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sila bitaw tanan nag buhat ana curruption.. but ang punto deri kong asa sa duha ang nag hatag og ma ayong serbisyo sa mga tawo.. deli na nato ma basol ang kalisod sa kahimtang nato karon.. tungod sa na bya-an nga problema gikan pa sa termino ni markos.. ato usa ng ipadaplin ang pagka kurakot anand duha...

kong si kinsa ang nakahatag og maayong serbisyo dako pa kaau na nga lalis bai... para nimo si GMA... para sa uban dili. ang main punto jud dinhi kay ang kakuyaw sa Martial Law... lami ra ba kaau ning gahom. Sa una bitaw panahon ni Marcos pag declare niya og Martial Law, payts ra man kono... pero look what happen?

ato usa tan awon kong unsay nabuhat nila sa atong nasod.... sa kampo sa opposition unsa may may ilang natabang nato? sa mga kabus? gawas sa ilang pag pang kurakot na-aÂ* bay sila natampo?

kong basihan lang nato ang survey bai kabahin sa kabos (wala man jud tay lain gabasihan)... sa pagka karon walay ni ingon na ni ayo iilang pagkabutang. so lalisonon kaau na bai.

Kong tarong pa jud na siya lagi bai... dapat iya ng gitubag tanan allegations niya. Hapit na lang tuig sukad pagboto anang Garci recording... naa na bai klarong sa wiretapping...

ang inyo man gud pag to-o si marcos og si arroyo parehas...tsk tsk tsk.... ma o na hadlok mog martial law...

og onsay kasiguradohan nimo bai nga dili sila pareho? og dili niya i-abuse ang authority? gi abuse na man gani niya pag 2004 election.

ma o lagi nahh karon.. mag cgeg tag lalis... about ani.. we dont trust arroyo governments we dont trust opposition....

ok lets go on to wiretapping issue lets have a snap election para usab... blah blah.. blah..Â* ug unsa pana diha...

ma-o nalang ba neh atong ma buhat? ok pabor ko anang mo resign si arroyo kong ma nay gusto nila kinsa may i puli?

og onsay kasiguradohan nimo bai nga dili sila pareho? og dili niya i-abuse ang authority? gi abuse na man gani niya pag 2004 election.

ay sus wala niya gi abuso oy.. na nikas lang sya.. pero ang uban niyang ka atbang wa pod manikas? na pildi lang sila sa tikas. maÂ* o nahh..

this is about sa kina iya sa tawo..... kong deli ta mo salig sa atong goberno... og mag cge nalang tag reklamo... in ani nalang jud ta permi.....

kong na-a kay pag duda...og pag duha2x maypa deli nalang ka mo botar or mo migrate ka sa lain nasod leave the philippines...
para nako ang pag governo karon mura na og sugal..hari og patay ang resulta.....kong di ka mo sugal...mag paka hilom nalang ka...

Ang problema nimo bay, mag sige man ka ug assume nga nanikas ang oposisyon. Present ug facts. SI GMA nasakpan sa tape.

Its not about kinsa mopuli, its about sa iyang qualification to lead the country.

Definitley a certified cheater should not be allowed to lead the country. Cheating is a violation of the Constitution. To oust a cheater is not unconstitutional.

[mosimos]

The threat of a coup is always present even during Marcos' reign. If PGMA's strategists had thought ofÂ* the situation thoroughly, she wouldn't have had to declare the state of emergency. Why?

If the coup plot was indeed quashed as it was declared to be, wouldn't it have made the government more stable and be perceived to be strong to the public to just come out with an annoucement that PGMA's administration was able to foil an attempt to overthrow her and that they did it quietly?

Or maybe even just downplay the coup plot until it is clear who were the instigators of the plan, and maybe then come out with an announcement about it.Â*

Maybe even just keep quiet about it.Â* Since nothing happened, since the plan was exposed before it's execution, there was no need for the public to know about it. There are times when ignorance is bliss.

The declaration of the state of emergency clearly shows the weakness of PGMA's political will to handle situation democratically. Slowly it has unveiled her plans of Martial Law.Â* What do people have to say about the warrantless arrests of known critics of the PGMA administration (Prof. Randy David and Crispin Beltran) ? The taking over of the Tribune?

It sounds all too familiar.Â* Too familiar that it's almost impossible not to notice the similarities toÂ* martial law.

I absolutely agree with you pnoizek. We have witnessed martial law and its really evil. When martial law ended I shed tears of joy. It was unbelievable. I thought Marcos will rule us forever and that his evil ways would always prevail. But God finally said "Enough is enough."

When Cory Aquino had been hounded by several coup de etats not once did she declare a National State of Emergency. Gani mas grabe to iya labina 1989 coup kay daghan gyud ug patay unya hapit gyud modaog ang mga rebel soldiers. Yet wala gyud mo declare ug state of emergency.

Now si GMA, rumor lang gani declare dayun.

Mao na makaingon gyud ko giagamit lang ni GMA ang alibi nga naay coup plot para pahilomon ang iyang mga critico.

Gusto ni GMA nga dili na lang ta motingog sa iyang mga binuang.

[monrose29]

mosimos deli na assume ako-a di ko present og fact nmo.. para nako kong kinsa na-a sa pwesto ma-o akong labanan.... kong ang opposition mapa tud-an nila nga nanikas si arroyo.. mo support ko nila.......

ikaw can u present a fact nga wala pod manikas ang taga opposition?

[mosimos]

@ moonrose: Ikaw man ang nag akusa ikaw ang mo present sa facts.

[monrose29]

i said it deli ko ka present og facts nga nanikas ang opposition. but sa akong personal view.. bout sa wire taping murag deli ko satisfy.. dapat unta maka dungog ta tanan sa panag istorya ni GMA og ni garci kong gina wire tap si garci ay kog ingna si arroyo ra ang nitawag niya aton nga time.. how bout others politician?

posible pod nga nitawag to ang taga oppostion niya.. pero ma o lagi na kang arroyo ra man ang na isyo.... ato paminawon tanan nanawag ni garci ato nga time para mawala atong duda....

[lestat1116]

Pustahan..kung naa pa na silay ipuli kay Arroyo dayon...hagbay ra na napulihan...

sakto jud.. if naay 1 person that really deserve the seat... hagbay ra na nawala c arroyo.. but wala man every1 wana seat there...

[mannyamador]

"Proclamation 1017 creates a 'chilling effect'-
and that may be its intended purpose"
--Maria Ressa
ABS-CBN vice president for news and public affairs

THE mass media entities were the first to bear the brunt of Proclamation
1017 and its General Order No. 5, leading not a few to wonder aloud why,
if there was indeed a "right-left conspiracy" to violently overthrow the
Arroyo government, why aren't any of the supposed rebel officers being
taken in, with the exception of Scout Ranger chief Gen. Danilo Lim? While
Ferdinand Marcos quickly trotted out before the world several rebel
officers allegedly caught in a failed coup against him just before Edsa 1
erupted, President Arroyo's men have so far only managed to detain Lim in
quarters, subsequently arrested former police general Ramon Montaño; then
used old cases against two supposed conspirators-party-list Rep. Crispin
Beltran and former senator Gregorio Honasan.

The government justified the crackdown on media thusly: the media has been
a tool, continues to be a tool, of destabilizers. Who these enemies of the
state are, it isn't clear -- so why are the journalists who cover them first
on the firing line, as witness the raid on the Daily Tribune newspaper and
the National Police's warning it will take over others that don't follow
"government standards."

For a clearer insight on how news executives view the media's role, rights
and relationship with the State in this crisis, BusinessMirror
correspondent Honey Madrilejos-Reyes interviewed Maria Ressa, ABS-CBN vice
president for news and public affairs, and former CNN bureau chief in
Jakarta.

What are the broad implications of the proclamation for the mass media?

Its implications on freedom of speech, which is the highest value in the
bill of rights/democracy?

First, the media are included as one of the reasons for Proclamation 1017:
"Whereas, the claims of these elements have been recklessly magnified by
certain segments of the national media."

This means the media have already been judged. The question is by whom and
by whose standards? This was a question I posed to the National
Telecommunications Commission (NTC) last Friday when they asked us to come
in for a meeting. The response I got was that the NTC is merely the body
tasked to implement this proclamation with media. That is no answer at
all.

We repeatedly asked for guidelines and were told KBP will help develop
those points along with the NTC. That is an unsatisfactory answer because
it means the government can take action against media organizations now
without having to explain itself.

We also pointed out that foreign media will continue to report what they
see. This will create a schism between local and foreign press. Why are we
creating different standards? Why should local journalists follow? I am
also personally caught in a quandary because I continue to report for CNN
and other foreign media groups even as I head ABS-CBN News. Does that mean
I can write something for a foreign media outfit but not put it to air
here?

The NTC called for open dialogue and appealed for fair and balanced
coverage. If that is all it wants, then there is no problem and no need
for this proclamation. For ABS-CBN, being fair and balanced are key
elements of our Standards and Ethics Manual.

You cannot have freedom of the press if you curtail that freedom. There is
no middle ground. You either have a free press or you don't.

The watchdogs have become the watched. Who will now watch government?

Proclamation 1017 creates a "chilling effect" and that may be
its intended purpose. That is why it's important that journalists define
boundaries we cannot cross and still call ourselves journalists.

We at ABS-CBN News & Current Affairs are professional journalists. We
will continue doing our jobs in line with our Standards and Ethics Manual.

How will the media now be able to report the news in its entirety, given
that a lot of what we say might be construed as "inciting to sedition"?
Could we even interview the political opposition?

I think it's even more important to interview as many sectors of society
as possible.

As journalists, we need to be more vigilant during times of national
crisis. But those times are also when public demand for accurate, timely
information increases. We aim to fill that demand. We at ABS-CBN will not
censor our reports.

What are the checks that we have at our disposal?

As the proclamation stands right now, the power is all on the government
side with little accountability. What do we have on our side? Truth and
justice -- those are universal ideals which cannot be suppressed.

How do you see Philippine media acting under these circumstances? How will
this affect reportage?

It has already had a "chilling effect" on some, and I think we in media are
watching closely to see what will happen next.

A newspaper office (Tribune) has been raided. What if the same happens to
a broadcast entity -- what will the KBP do about it?

You should ask the KBP. I think it would be a mistake for the government
to shut down any broadcast organization. The signal that sends out would
be damaging for our country both domestically and globally.

Kindly confirm reports that there are soldiers guarding ABS-CBN.

Since this is print, I can say yes, there are soldiers guarding ABS-CBN.
But that is something I can't air on ABS-CBN nor ANC after the NTC meeting
Friday.

Having covered all the coup attempts in the past (and having been stuck in
this building in 1987 when it was PTV 4), I know it's standard practice to
send the military to guard military and broadcast installations when there
is any threat of a coup.

However, Proclamation 1017 could make me interpret this move in a new light.

Where does this put your organization, considering the Lopez family and
its businesses have in the past been at the receiving end of similar
treatment from the Marcos regime?

There are many rumors that ABS-CBN is a target and will be shut down. If
that happens, it's not because we are not doing our jobs as journalists.
We will take appropriate measures.

How will this affect (if any) your organization's news gathering?

It renews and further ignites my organization's sense of mission.

COPYRIGHT (c) 2005 Philippine Business Daily Mirror Publishing, Inc.

[mosimos]

Murag gipatukar naman siguro tanan bay. Â*Naa bitaw oposisyon didto pero sa ako nadunggan nangutana ra man sila ug question. Di man parehas kang GMA nga klaro kaayo ba nga tikas gyud ang gi istoryahan. Â*

Well, wa man gyud masakapi ang actual nga tikas but the fact nga nakig istorya siya about tikas is something nga dili gyud maayo especially you are running for the presidency.

BTW, nagpagawas man si Chavit Singson ug tape di ba ni Erap. Â*PEro nadunggan didto nag check ra man si Erap sa developments sa eleksyon ug dili man si Garci iya ka istorya.

Another pangutana, ngano tong na mention sa Hello Garci sama nila ni General Esperon ug Gen. Habacon na promote man? Â*Ug ngano to si Gudani nga giingon naa sa oposisyon, na demote man? Â*Di ba grabe kaayo ka coincidence. Â*Gi promote ni si Esperon ug Habacon para dili mo pya-it sa binuang ni GMA ug ni Garci.

[Isteb]

dili ra kadtong mga naay sala ang dapat mahadlok, everyone should fear martial law. Imagine, pwede na ka dakpon on a whim? example, kadtong mga nag rally sa usj-r ug usc, kung karon pa to sila ga rally, kay pwede na unta sila dakpon kay ga "samok-samok" or ga "cause ug kagubot" or even "violation of the anti-dispatching law" as some protesters were asking donations from passing vehicles. so sa kadtong mga firestarters, lie low lang sa ta ron.

Isteb dodong... wa man magka sinabot ning imong statement. Nag saylob man lang ang agi. Imo pang gi bold ang everyone. Tinuod bitaw nga kung wala kay dautang buhaton aron mapukan ang gobyerno dili ka angayan nga mahadlok. Ang mahadlok kadto rang mga samukan ug mga nagplano nga samukun kay tan-aw nila ni pick up ug balik ang economy tungod sa mga fiscal reforms nga gi implementar. Ug ayaw ug lalis ini dodong kay hasta ang mga financial markets sa gawas ni confirm nga ni improve ang atong economy. Ug dili ka moto-o basa kay basin wala kay basa basa.Â* Â*Basin ug putos asin pirme nimong gibasa.

Unya ingon pa ka nga "on a whim"... Unsa may on a whim? sa ato pa capritso ba... kung matipohan ka... as they like. Nga sa ato kay as they like man kaha, kay on a whim god bisag wala pa kay sala puede ka dakpon, pero tan-awa ang sumpay sa imong statement... kay pwede na unta sila dakpon kay ga "samok-samok" or ga "cause ug kagubot" Ikaw ra sa nag tu-is sa imong statement nga on a whim...

on a whim yes. pre, i don't want to get personal but i suggest you study your facts before you react... kadtong sa martial law sa una daghan kaayo ko ug nahibaw-an nga gipang-patay ug gipang-abduct sa gov't on a whim. usa adto sa ila kay ga kaon ra intawon ug banana kyu. gidakop lang ug kalit. next thing you know missing na. then suspended pa ang writ of habeas corpus so wala gi presentar ang kadtong tawhana. naa pud lain nga ga basa-basa unya gipusil intawon. then the cop went around the block shooting his firearm like crazy for some unknown reason. and the cop is still in active duty today.

both people fall under the category of "way sala", in fact, the activists even considered these people "meek","conservative","timid", etc.

now what i mean was, mas kandidato sa dakop pa tong mga nagrally since naa may pwede ikahatag nga rason as to why dakpon sila. that's what i wanted to say. read between the lines.

hinaut dili lang ta magpersonalay diri.

[monrose29]

Murag gipatukar naman siguro tanan bay. Naa bitaw oposisyon didto pero sa ako nadunggan nangutana ra man sila ug question. Di man parehas kang GMA nga klaro kaayo ba nga tikas gyud ang gi istoryahan.

Well, wa man gyud masakapi ang actual nga tikas but the fact nga nakig istorya siya about tikas is something nga dili gyud maayo especially you are running for the presidency.

BTW, nagpagawas man si Chavit Singson ug tape di ba ni Erap. PEro nadunggan didto nag check ra man si Erap sa developments sa eleksyon ug dili man si Garci iya ka istorya.

Another pangutana, ngano tong na mention sa Hello Garci sama nila ni General Esperon ug Gen. Habacon na promote man? Ug ngano to si Gudani nga giingon naa sa oposisyon, na demote man? Di ba grabe kaayo ka coincidence. Gi promote ni si Esperon ug Habacon para dili mo pya-it sa binuang ni GMA ug ni Garci.

para nako bai.. weather2x lang yan.... i dont know kong kong ang taga opposition pod ang nida-og.. na-ay pod mga movement nga himo on si GMA.. we stil dont know if kong ang opposition maka pa resign ni GMA they can do better than GMA....