Is Evolutionist Science worth believing?

[botslob]

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Ei, Spike, as we those who believe in the Theory of Evolution is concerned, this discussion is a not that fair.

Why is it that only we are those who are going to prove our point?

Why not you - who dont believe in the theory - prove your own point?

And mind you, you cant prove a point just be debunking the opposite's point.

We prove our point. PROVE YOUR'S TOO!

Alel

hehehe mao gyud. unya tagaan dayon kag bersikolo sa bibliya kong wa nay ikatubag hihihihihihi

[Mr.Ho_chia]

Sorry Bro, but I dont buy it.

Hahaha! You are funny...

Again, here is a concrete example of how presuppositions cloud reason.
Bro, soil dont evolve. It is non-living.

My gosh! I am not preaching "I" am right! I am saying that the Theory holds water! That IS all! Pleasr re-assess your evaluation Bro. I am afraid your equation lacks something.

And honestly, who lack evidence, who lack definiteness, who lack facts between us two? You have not even presented one yet!


Alel

I don't care if you believe me or not. not my problem if you have closed your mind. what else is new?

I know that those are non- living things. isn't it that everything else came from nothing? are you telling me your surprise? that's funnier. you say you go for evolution and you failed to recognize that? the big bang theory does it sound a bell?

so can you now give me answers instead of your acrobatic words designed to evade the real issues.

1. plot that so called trace from the chimps to the homo sapiens in exact details.

2. where does your single cell organism such as your amoeba that have all the genetic information to randomly evolve eventual as humans came from?

i think my equation is incomplete precisely because you lack concrete details in what you called as evidence of evolution. you say it holds water, spit it out then.............

this thread is all about evolution and science right? exactly why we are discussing it. your in the affirmative side, the burden of proof is all yours, i am simply questioning that already shaky foundation from the very start.

again it is not my problem if you can not support your stand in the most scientific and definitive way with evidence.


and by the way disproving your stand of human evolution from a single cell organism is proving my point that evolution is not the reason why we all came to be. that's just it nothing more.

[Alel]

I don't care if you believe me or not. not my problem if you have closed your mind. what else is new?

I know that those are non- living things. isn't it that everything else came from nothing? are you telling me your surprise? that's funnier. you say you go for evolution and you failed to recognize that? the big bang theory does it sound a bell?

so can you now give me answers instead of your acrobatic words designed to evade the real issues.

1. plot that so called trace from the chimps to the homo sapiens in exact details.

2. where does your single cell organism such as your amoeba that have all the genetic information to randomly evolve eventual as humans came from?

i think my equation is incomplete precisely because you lack concrete details in what you called as evidence of evolution. you say it holds water, spit it out then.............

this thread is all about evolution and science right? exactly why we are discussing it. your in the affirmative side, the burden of proof is all yours, i am simply questioning that already shaky foundation from the very start.

again it is not my problem if you can not support your stand in the most scientific and definitive way with evidence.


and by the way disproving your stand of human evolution from a single cell organism is proving my point that evolution is not the reason why we all came to be. that's just it nothing more.

Bum...

Here is a short answer: Google

If you want to learn and not just sound the "right man" and just debate and poke at issues you dont even seem to know boundaries, us what is readily available: the Internet.

From now on, since you are worried about other's so-called "corrupted" opinions, then find your own source.

If you still dont believe on the hundreds of credible pages worldwide: Scientific American, Noble, and what else, then do your own research.

And to answer your question about soil, here is my answer:

The Big Bang Theory is departed from the Theory of Evolution. Do your research.

But since you mention it, Ill TRY in absolute VAIN (since I know how you would think.) to give a sufficient answer:

The Big Bang is a source of immense energy. Call it the power of God or whatnot - I dont care. But that is it - a source of immense energy.

If you studied science in elementary, you should have heard Bout Einstein's Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy - which states that when energy is burned out, it is not cancelled out of the universe, instead, it is converted to mass or matter. And same thing the other way around. When you expend matter, you transform it to energy in direct proportion.

Happy? I doubt it. But Im not here to satisfy your psyche.

Alel

And if you want scientific facts, consult a scientist for Christ's sake: science@guardian.co.uk

Here's a tip: WWW.GOOGLE.COM . Feed yourself! You have the Internet it front of you. The power is in your hands! Use it!!!! :mrgreen:

Alel

[Mr.Ho_chia]

Bum...

Here is a short answer: Google

If you want to learn and not just sound the "right man" and just debate and poke at issues you dont even seem to know boundaries, us what is readily available: the Internet.

From now on, since you are worried about other's so-called "corrupted" opinions, then find your own source.

If you still dont believe on the hundreds of credible pages worldwide: Scientific American, Noble, and what else, then do your own research.

And to answer your question about soil, here is my answer:

The Big Bang Theory is departed from the Theory of Evolution. Do your research.

But since you mention it, Ill TRY in absolute VAIN (since I know how you would think.) to give a sufficient answer:

The Big Bang is a source of immense energy. Call it the power of God or whatnot - I dont care. But that is it - a source of immense energy.

If you studied science in elementary, you should have heard Bout Einstein's Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy - which states that when energy is burned out, it is not cancelled out of the universe, instead, it is converted to mass or matter. And same thing the other way around. When you expend matter, you transform it to energy in direct proportion.

Happy? I doubt it. But Im not here to satisfy your psyche.

Alel

And if you want scientific facts, consult a scientist for Christ's sake: science@guardian.co.uk

Here's a tip: WWW.GOOGLE.COM . Feed yourself! You have the Internet it front of you. The power is in your hands! Use it!!!! :mrgreen:

Alel

and this is your answer to my questions? but i guess you can never answer straight a straight forward question. there goes your evolution.

Yah right it is a source of immense energy --- hence the big bang. and what do you know, after which there goes your pacific ocean and your single cell amoeba floating in it that eventually became our ancestor the apes.great science there.

please don't give me those links, and i know what google is all about. i am more interested in what you know that you are so convince about. i thought you have all the scientific evidences and factual proofs of evolution, wala man sab d i.

I don't need to feed my self with scientific transformation through evolution, i see what it did to you. i will not allow myself to be confuse and deceived with what is supposed to be a factual scientific evidence that i can never explain in full details and with all simplicity.

now i know. thanks for the enlightenment alel.

[Alel]

Man, I spoke of things that I got from the Net. I admit that. Heck, that is how I learn. Through diligently fishing through information from the queries.

Hahahaha! I am trying to show you the options you have not considered. Self-study.

Honestly, Im tired of having a "discussion" with you and your buddies.

Sorry, but for me, all I said was enough...

Enjoy your "discussions" further...Have fun poking...


Alel

[Mr.Ho_chia]

yah I know, i saw your gibbons which highly resembles your ancestors in the net as well.

self study you said? wow such an enlightened proposition, do more of it, coz frankly speaking you need it.

I felt so sorry that you got tired, it aint our problem if making such a trace to your roots (the apes) is but a futile endeavor. And I guess, even how incomplete the evidence are for as long as it hid in the name of science it is enough for you. so be it..........

fun poking? hehe, just discussing, if you can't stand the heat, its better you not joining.

So long alel.

[Alel]

yah I know, i saw your gibbons which highly resembles your ancestors in the net as well.

self study you said? wow such an enlightened proposition, do more of it, coz frankly speaking you need it.

I felt so sorry that you got tired, it aint our problem if making such a trace to your roots (the apes) is but a futile endeavor. And I guess, even how incomplete the evidence are for as long as it hid in the name of science it is enough for you. so be it..........

fun poking? hehe, just discussing, if you can't stand the heat, its better you not joining.

So long alel.

Not only my gibbons, but yours too...

Dont forget, you are human, too...


Alel

[Mr.Ho_chia]

Not only my gibbons, but yours too...

Dont forget, you are human, too...


Alel

haha. in your perspective then, maybe. that's why i am not a believer of evolution in that particular aspect because i don't want apes to be my grandiest lola.

have a nice day alel.

[Alel]

haha. in your perspective then, maybe. that's why i am not a believer of evolution in that particular aspect because i don't want apes to be my grandiest lola.

have a nice day alel.

Well, being a stoic might help.

I dont have a problem if we humans are considered as apes though. Its just a goddamned label. Who aside from the die-hard politically-correct, extra-morally elated cares??!

Geez...

I dont see any reason for that fact to be morally degrading...And it is quite nonesense to judge an entity based on his species.

Well, have a nice day too Bro..

Alel :: Proud to proclaim to be an ape.

[diatabz]

Hmmm... I don't understand whats so wrong with us evolving from apes. Does it make us less human?