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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    can you please define respect bro? sa tinuod na storya, tab-ang man jud na ang host diba.. pero sometimes, lami bya kan-on ang host maski tab-ang, kay sauna, mupalit gud mi ani para lng ikaon..
    I'm sorry bro, pero it sounded man gud nga nagbinuang ra ka sa Host...

    fyi lng bro, sa mga priests na I have suggested this one, some of them have dismissed it as a form of jest, but who knows really.. to make people want to take the communion, they could have altered the recipe a little bit so people are encouraged to eat the body of Christ.. medyo marketing na ni dapita..
    I guess they could do that. Pero para nako dili man siguro na meant to be tasty jud or delicious. At the very least it's palatable. If we want to enjoy great food, we can go to a restaurant na lang.

    yeah, but still this is already bordering on belief.. i know the ceremony quite well, thank you.
    but again, its still symbolism, because if it was really Christ's flesh, that bread would not be white anymore, but would be something brown if cooked or if uncooked, would appear soft and meaty.
    Bro, they would say that Christ's body as the Host has the appearance of a bread, but in substance it is really Christ's flesh. It would be great if we can ask some priests to explain that to us.

    Let's just stick to reality and set theology aside coz I don't like arguing with you about the theological subject.. in my experience, that cannot be argued upon because that is not subject to argument in the first place. its either you accept the belief or not. but if you actually claim that it is Christ's flesh in REALITY, hmmm.. imo pud na bro. we are all entitled to our own reality man pud ba. ask any priest about the REALITY na Christ's flesh ba jud na.. most of them would respond na its still symbolism.
    Yes, it would be great bro if we could ask several priests about this...

    kung Christ flesh jud na, murag ma-cannibalism na ta ana gud..
    Hinuon... I guess we can look at it that way. Personally, I want to look at it differently. I want to look at it as God's fulfillment of his promise in the book of Isaiah to put his law within our hearts. God after all is the Logos, the Word who became flesh, the Law who became flesh.

    yeah, i certainly hope so too..
    Ato niya na i-suggest sa mga taga-simbahan hehe...
    Last edited by josephdc; 05-09-2009 at 12:23 PM.

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    No need to please GOD. God doesn't need anything to be pleased! GOD IS HAPPINESS ITSELF!!!

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    ^ God is the fountain of joy and peace...

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    faith is an act of pleasing God. without faith, your peace and joy is nothing.

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    ^ I agree. We find true joy and peace when we align our own wills with God's will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I'm sorry bro, pero it sounded man gud nga nagbinuang ra ka sa Host...
    no probs bro.. ngano pud tawn magbinuang ko anang Host, wa man koy labot ana..

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I guess they could do that. Pero para nako dili man siguro na meant to be tasty jud or delicious. At the very least it's palatable. If we want to enjoy great food, we can go to a restaurant na lang.
    yeah.. di man pud na kailangan na tasty na jud or delicious, pero just adding a little flavor. I bet in our society karon, acceptable na na.. besides there's nothing bad about it man ba.. for example, on mondays kay fruity flavored host, or tuesdays kay cheese flavored host. mintras mangalawat naman jud ang mga tao, a little fun and excitement will not hurt the essence.. i dont think si Kristo kay serious jud kaau to siya na tao, we are all children of God ra gud..

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Bro, they would say that Christ's body as the Host has the appearance of a bread, but in substance it is really Christ's flesh. It would be great if we can ask some priests to explain that to us.
    can you please define "substance" here bro.. is it physical substance or some other kind of substance (like meaningful substance or spiritual substance or emotional substance)? kung physical substance ang storyahan, i suppose you can easily subject the host to a series of chemical tests if the flour has really turned into human flesh cells.. its definitely a no-brainer to differentiate flour from flesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Hinuon... I guess we can look at it that way. Personally, I want to look at it differently. I want to look at it as God's fulfillment of his promise in the book of Isaiah to put his law within our hearts. God after all is the Logos, the Word who became flesh, the Law who became flesh.
    mao jud, bottom line symbolism ra japon.. the Logos, Word became flesh, the Law who became flesh.. that is all religious doctrine and symbolism.. nothing to do with physical reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    no probs bro.. ngano pud tawn magbinuang ko anang Host, wa man koy labot ana..



    yeah.. di man pud na kailangan na tasty na jud or delicious, pero just adding a little flavor. I bet in our society karon, acceptable na na.. besides there's nothing bad about it man ba.. for example, on mondays kay fruity flavored host, or tuesdays kay cheese flavored host. mintras mangalawat naman jud ang mga tao, a little fun and excitement will not hurt the essence.. i dont think si Kristo kay serious jud kaau to siya na tao, we are all children of God ra gud..
    Hehehe... Grabiha pud ana bro oi... Lain2x flavors for each day?

    Pero for me bro the Host is holy man gud... If butangan nimo og flavors mura'g mahimo na nga banal na kaayo ang Host. It might distract us from the essence of what's happening, us receiving Jesus. Kung ganahan ta, mangaon na lang jud ta'g candy after sa Mass hehe...

    can you please define "substance" here bro.. is it physical substance or some other kind of substance (like meaningful substance or spiritual substance or emotional substance)? kung physical substance ang storyahan, i suppose you can easily subject the host to a series of chemical tests if the flour has really turned into human flesh cells.. its definitely a no-brainer to differentiate flour from flesh.
    That's very true bro... I guess ako gi-mean kay metaphysical substance... It's still bread physically, but in essence it becomes Christ's flesh. This is made possible by the sacrament of Eucharist. Hopefully we can ask the priests how this happens. It's a theological subject, dili ko maka-explain ani...

    mao jud, bottom line symbolism ra japon.. the Logos, Word became flesh, the Law who became flesh.. that is all religious doctrine and symbolism.. nothing to do with physical reality.
    I believe it is still a physical reality bro. After all, God became flesh in Jesus, and Jesus is a concrete person and not just a symbol. The Word or the Logos who has always existed took on human form and became real physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Hehehe... Grabiha pud ana bro oi... Lain2x flavors for each day?
    Pero for me bro the Host is holy man gud... If butangan nimo og flavors mura'g mahimo na nga banal na kaayo ang Host. It might distract us from the essence of what's happening, us receiving Jesus. Kung ganahan ta, mangaon na lang jud ta'g candy after sa Mass hehe...
    i guess subject to each his own interpretation na lng jud ni. personally, i dont think a flavor in the host will distract me from the meaning of what's happening.. mature na man ta na mga citizens.. its not as if we're still kids in gradeschool na wala pa kasabot sa essence..

    in fact, in a different example, even some kids know better na lying is not good when you teach them from the very beggining na its not a good virtue.. no matter what kind of flavoring you add to lying, them kids would still be hesitant.. just an example lng..

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    That's very true bro... I guess ako gi-mean kay metaphysical substance... It's still bread physically, but in essence it becomes Christ's flesh. This is made possible by the sacrament of Eucharist. Hopefully we can ask the priests how this happens. It's a theological subject, dili ko maka-explain ani...
    Maybe there is a process that the priests will explain in wonderfully colored and magical sounding words.

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I believe it is still a physical reality bro. After all, God became flesh in Jesus, and Jesus is a concrete person and not just a symbol. The Word or the Logos who has always existed took on human form and became real physically.
    Imo pud na bro..
    ang ako lng i-point out is that "God became flesh in Jesus" is still a doctrine of religion.. which still points to symbolism.. its still a belief.. not really related to any physical reality..

    its quite simple to show na doctrine ra japon ni.. you can just ask yourself where you got the idea that God became flesh in Jesus.. that's from the Bible.. and who wrote the Bible? Ordinary people like us.. and they didn't know any better about chemistry or physical reality.. they just wrote what they believe in.. and you read it, so you believe it also..

    as to proving that belief is physical reality, that's a different story which requires a series of tests..

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    hehehe food for the soul kaayo mong 2 dah... maayo ni kay na refresh akoang pagka catholico...

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    for the sake of the system..?
    it is a process.. whatever intentions they had in mind, ila na na.. wa man koy labot ana..
    but setting these aside, since you begin talking of a system, if you have a process, u usually have a system where that process needs to operate into.. in some way, it will still be for the sake of the system, maglahi2x lng ang intentions.
    ako challenge nimo ani is (whether you accept it or not) can you name a process where it does not belong to any system whatsoever?
    i can't believe ingun ana ka ka-mabaw, i was explaining the idea of having to go to confession before receiving communion after a very long time of not receiving it, and you focused on my statement as it is, and not on the explanation. well anyway, for the sake of it...
    every process is a compromise of a system. but please try to re-read my explanation, i was not focusing the "system". duh!

    kailangan pa diay i-prove na tinuod ang Ginoo? you said earlier na to have faith is to believe without question. when you have the need to prove na tinuod ang Ginoo, aren't you already questioning the existence of God?
    don't give me the impression that i am talking to a 13-year old. please try to understand the words as they are, regardless of the tone of voice and facial expression, completely understandable. *sigh*
    i did not say "that you have to prove God!", as i was saying.. you can "prove it by yourself", it does not necessarily mean you have to prove God, but rather a satisfaction, a confirmation of what you already believe( that God is real), because i was stating it (as i have written) from a perspective of a Catholic. therefore you already believe, the statement now only refers to a confirmation on a personal level.


    so, basically, God is at the mercy of your thoughts?
    or I just think of God and he/she/it appears?
    i said "speed of thought", how did you take it? i was refering to His "speed", to His availability relating to my statement abot Him being everywhere, so i included His "speed" which is the speed of thought. WOW!
    i did not say you have to think of Him for Him to exist, it was His "speed".


    aside from panagsa na lng ko mu-adto simbahan, wa na pud ko lami-i sa kalawat gud.. hehe.. butangan pa lng na nila asukar..
    wait let me take back what i said with the earlier post, you are now vomiting your intentions and starting to ridiculeand if you insist on denying, we will go far with this.


    the good thing about symbolisms is your not restricted to one form of symbolism. we can "receive the body of Christ" in many other ways.. pinaka-literal jud hinuon na ang pagkalawat, and sometimes i wonder if the people who take communion not only understand but display also in their lives the essence of receiving the body of Christ..
    you got it exactly wrong when you said "pinaka-literal jud hinuon na ang pagkalawat", if you are an ex seminarian, i say your a crap seminarian. it is not taken literally and has more to it than meets the eye (especially yours).
    Transubstantiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and last, di ta kasigurado kung limpyo ba na kamot sa pari.
    a pail of ridicule vomitted on the floor, so much for the "not"

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