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    They call me the man with the blood of Christ, honestly,
    but tonight I drink with heathens and the finest of our blastphamies
    in wine there's truth but in silence there's surrender
    a screaming for the silence in stunned suspicious terror

    built a temple in my life and used God to seal the pillars
    after twenty years of fighting young heritics and killers
    I watched my temple fall to pieces (at the first sign of oncoming weather)
    I fell to my knees just like jesus in the cave
    I knew i would die by my lips could only say:

    "I am not your son so why have you forsaken me?"

    There's a hole in my heart but it just makes me unholy.

    Crucified that night and walked away with alter-ego
    Like the prison priest who preaches his dead and buried gospel,
    while my faith's in ruins my duty breathes strong.
    I'm a parrot in a cage saying prayers to belong

    To a textbook of my crying, lying, dying history;
    a time so full of life that I was anything but me.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    so faith is trust and belief in God..

    karon, what is the meaning of this God?
    What do you mean bro? You mean how can we define God? Well, lisud man bro...

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    GOD is beyond GOOD and EVIL! GOD is a TRANSCENDENT GOD!

    Can you imagine GOD with a limited mind? NO!

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    aside from panagsa na lng ko mu-adto simbahan, wa na pud ko lami-i sa kalawat gud.. hehe.. butangan pa lng na nila asukar..
    Bro, I think a little respect for the Host would be good. Have you tried suggesting that to your priest friends? Why don't you ask them more about the Host...

    bitaw, pun aside, either i'm not worthy, or i just don't buy into that belief anymore.. naglibog pa ko kung asa jud sa duha.. more likely siguro na i don't see it like before anymore, na i eat the body of Christ.. its all symbolism and i understand the symbolism, but its not mandatory.. the good thing about Catholic religion.. which is why wa lng pud ko nag-usab ug religion..
    Theologians would say bro that the Host is not merely a symbol for Jesus, that it is actually Jesus himself who is that bread. They would say that in the Eucharist, the bread actually changes in substance and becomes Jesus' flesh. It is the fulfillment of the prophecy that Isaiah made when he wrote that God promised us that he will write his law within our hearts. Maybe you can ask your priest friends about that theological subject.

    and last, di ta kasigurado kung limpyo ba na kamot sa pari..
    I think that that would be a good thing to suggest to the Church. Naga-practice pud tingali na sila og handwashing (I hope so!).
    Last edited by josephdc; 05-09-2009 at 11:18 AM.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    diha jud na padulong brad..

    labi na kung magpalabi sa gibati sa iyang religion.. unya di na macontrol ang gibati, mugawas jud na sa action..

    okay ra man passionate ka sa imong religion, ang problema kung insecure ang tao, unya feeling niya na gi-attack siya, ang natural response is mu-retaliate, and then u have war..
    I don't think religion necessarily leads to violence.

  6. #126
    my religion introduced me to god. but i think i would have find her on my own, sooner or later. while i don't find religions necessary to believe in him, i'm still thankful that they exist. their writings can make us aware of the many facets of god

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    GOD is beyond GOOD and EVIL! GOD is a TRANSCENDENT GOD!

    Can you imagine GOD with a limited mind? NO!
    I see God as the ultimate standard by which we can measure good and evil in this life.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Bro, I think a little respect for the Host would be good. Have you tried suggesting that to your priest friends? Why don't you ask them more about the Host...
    can you please define respect bro? sa tinuod na storya, tab-ang man jud na ang host diba.. pero sometimes, lami bya kan-on ang host maski tab-ang, kay sauna, mupalit gud mi ani para lng ikaon..

    fyi lng bro, sa mga priests na I have suggested this one, some of them have dismissed it as a form of jest, but who knows really.. to make people want to take the communion, they could have altered the recipe a little bit so people are encouraged to eat the body of Christ.. medyo marketing na ni dapita..

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Theologians would say bro that the Host is not merely a symbol for Jesus, that it is actually Jesus himself who is that bread. They would say that in the Eucharist, the bread actually changes in substance and becomes Jesus' flesh. It is the fulfillment of the prophecy that Isaiah made when he wrote that God promised us that he will write his law within our hearts. Maybe you can ask your priest friends about that theological subject.
    yeah, but still this is already bordering on belief.. i know the ceremony quite well, thank you.
    but again, its still symbolism, because if it was really Christ's flesh, that bread would not be white anymore, but would be something brown if cooked or if uncooked, would appear soft and meaty.

    Let's just stick to reality and set theology aside coz I don't like arguing with you about the theological subject.. in my experience, that cannot be argued upon because that is not subject to argument in the first place. its either you accept the belief or not. but if you actually claim that it is Christ's flesh in REALITY, hmmm.. imo pud na bro. we are all entitled to our own reality man pud ba. ask any priest about the REALITY na Christ's flesh ba jud na.. most of them would respond na its still symbolism.

    kung Christ flesh jud na, murag ma-cannibalism na ta ana gud..

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I think that that would be a good thing to suggest to the Church. Naga-practice pud tingali na sila og handwashing (I hope so!).
    yeah, i certainly hope so too..

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Innosaint View Post
    i know some people who lost their faith when they became a catholic dahil sa mga priests...so they found light in being a born again christian...bu then they got dismayed kc ganun din daw ang mga pastors...now they only go to church to have the quite need to pray and talk to god...i have to admit that im not a dedicated catholic, but HE STILL MY FAITH... FAITH or RELIGION? how do you get close to god??

    as long as you have faith..you can still pleased God..

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    Because there is God

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