I just hope that both parties will find it's way of standing after all of these..![]()
I just hope that both parties will find it's way of standing after all of these..![]()
To be honest with you if it was only janitorial duty way effect. It would just be a laugh off. Naa baya mi ana sa una every saturday to amo when I was in high school. It was called SOT(saturday over time). It was useless sige ra mi pangatawa adtu sa mga kuyug namo nga kiat sad. tambay2x limpyo kuno gamay mura ra ug fun time to amo sa una. Wa dyd epek ang in atu after atu kiat na sad then magkita na sad balik kada saturday hehehehe. Matawag na siya ug Fun times in high school.
Let me just share my personal viewpoint on this issue, having reared high schoolers for so many years. Don't get me wrong. I am not yet a parent and I don't know how I would stand on this issue had I been the concerned parent of those students. But I guess, I would not let my child reach this point where her academic standings would be put at a standstill.
The unheard of party here are really the teachers who merely do their task of guiding students. Whether it is STC, or whatever school it is, the primary concern is always to lead students to the right path. Often as a teacher myself, our problems emerge when parents fail in their task of working alongside the school and its system to lead their students to the right path. They often view us as the antagonist in their well-celebrated plays. If you enroll your child in such school, that is because you believe in that school's mission and vision of not only educating your children but also transforming their lives.
This is really heartbreaking for us teachers who merely shake our heads at the recent decisions of the judge who is handling the case. And we often find ourselves wondering what has happened to the profession that merely wanted to rear future professionals who are able to control themselves and submit to authorities. We have been stripped off our vocations to discipline and so did our hopes of creating a better future for the next generation.
lol perot. thats your PoV and this is mine.
mao btaw akoa nasulti babaw sila pareho
Im nothing against the school but im Pro Freedom
and also, i am against using RELIGION as a basis for anything
i believe kabalo ka nga Agnostic ko and I rather have FAITH beside me
naa cguro ko bias ana but it doesnt matter since STC is a sectarian school and I respect that
Lets respect both PoVs OK?
and as i have said
kasabot ko sa imohang point sa abuse sa parents for asking for more butin the end, its gonna be the court who is going to decide
but the sad thing is, its not about the issue above but the issue filed in court
and to add to that, the STC's action against the TRO
just for the school to get the last laugh
is this how STC admins bring pride to themselves?
considering the weigh of the character grade VS the psychological effect na MAKABALO TANAN graduating nga wala sila kaapil ug paso?
layo ra kaau ang difference. ang kauwaw dli mabayran.
if nahusay pa na nga request, HOMAN NA unta ang problema.
para nako, ang demand sa parents kay babaw ra kaau - as if it matters
anyway, this part of the issue is not even confirmed
and id disagree with you when you said wrong move kay there is nothing wrong in processing LEGAL ACTIONS.
kung naguyod ang media then the problem is with responsible media. lisud controlon na.
you should know first hand unsa ka paspas mulupad ang balita sa media kay imo uyab naa dha nga field dba? ma unsa pa na ang motibo ana, wala na tay paki-alam. ang ato dapat tan-awon dri kay unsa ka LEGAL ang mga panghitabo
so let me ask you, if mao naa policy imo company nga dli legal, sundon nimo?, mureklamo ka? or mubalhin ka?
pero before you decide, let me figuratively say nga ang imo sweldo is equivalent sa graduation rites. and ang policy sa imong company mka apekto sa imong sweldo nga once in a lifetime kadako. corny sah?
and please, do not put words at the story kung unsa pa na ila motibo. one should be responsible in making stories. let us look at what the facts are. your stories may be right but that doesnt conclude as to where the case is going to. the case is with regard to the LEGALITY of the sanctions and or school policies (aside sa DEFIANCE OF TRO)
things being pointed out are,
ACADEMIC INDEPENDENCE against OUR Philippine Law is limited to COLLEGE and not anything LOWER than that
Activities outside the school premises is something the school cant manipulate and is a LEGAL FREEDOM
Private Property compromised - Facebook Pictures
Facebook being considered as a PUBLIC property disregarding the fact that Facebook has the BEST PRIVACY Options so far
and so on and so forth, mangawas ra na tanan later on
with regard to DEFYING TRO. In our Philippine Law, IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE. maskig mao to ang gi ingon sa ilang Lawyer, dli gyapon na mahimong rason para ipalusot sila ana. Kung ignan ka sa imong pamilya na patya imo tupad, patyon nimo? corny sah?
sakto ka, luoy kaau ang students tungod ani na issue but i cant entirely blame the parents for this. I blame both for being babaw. and id include media since grabe ang coverage nila nga it is now one hot issue to the point that it now has international attention
and again, talking about lewd is subjective. Kung crimal kag utok nga makita lang panit malisya na para nimo, imo na nang problema.
the policy of STC, if i am not mistaken, is to not show an ample amount of skin - thats a given.
anything that affects human rights is illegal - thats also a given.
school policy affecting human rights - Legal w/ Academic Independence: Illegal w/o Academic Independence
so mao ni ako pag sabot and i may be wrong as i am not a lawyer(i wish lol)
the student's violation is showing some skin. Sanctions were given
Parents were not satisfied with the sanction/reason and seeked legal counsel
kung walay illegal nakita ang legal counsel, nganu naa may naipasaka na kaso? kay nganu? naa may questionable nga policy which is directly related to how the school came upon with the sanctions
so mao na ni ang nahitabo ron. bsan unsa pa na ila motibo kung nganu ila gipasak-an ug kaso wala na tay labot ana
kay naay mutibo or wala, whats ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. it just needs a catalyst to get extracted and cguro, ang catalyst dri kay wa nagka husay ang both parties.
Last edited by jcgoyong; 04-05-2012 at 05:14 PM.
School's power over students not confined to campus
By Gerome M. Dalipe / Sun Star
Thursday, April 5, 2012
CAN schools sanction students who “misbehave” outside the campus?
A Supreme Court (SC) ruling in 1982 says the time or place is a “non-issue” in the school’s right to investigate the student’s misconduct.
In the Angeles versus Sison case, the SC Second Division held that “the power of the school over its students does not cease absolutely when they (students) leave the school premises.”
The ruling stemmed from a case involving two students of the Far Eastern University (FEU), who were accused of assaulting FEU Dean Jose Angeles in a restaurant in Quiapo, Manila on Oct. 20, 1975.
The High Court reversed the lower court’s decision, preventing FEU from conducting an administrative investigation against students Edgardo Picar and Wilfredo Patawaran.
In its ruling, the SC said the school has a “dual responsibility” to its students: providing opportunities for learning and helping students “grow and develop into mature, responsible, effective and worthy citizens of the community.”
Responsibility
“Discipline is one of the means to carry out the second responsibility,” the SC said.
The SC said a student’s conduct outside the campus may be subject to school discipline if it “affects the good order and welfare of the school or has a direct and immediate effect on the discipline or general welfare of the school.”
The question on the extent of a school’s authority over its students outside of campus came up when St. Theresa’s College (STC) barred a high school student from her class’ graduation rites last week because pictures of her in a bikini appeared online. Aside from her, four other STC students were barred from the graduation march but they were all allowed to graduate.
TRO
The parents of the student filed an injunction case with damages against STC, arguing that the occasion where their daughter was photographed was a “private social activity” and did not involve the school's “supervision and control.”
The Regional Trial Court in Cebu City issued a temporary restraining order that directed STC to allow the students to join the graduation march, but the school defied the order.
In the 1975 case, FEU formed a committee that would look into the incident involving its students and a dean. But the students questioned the school’s authority to conduct an investigation, arguing that the alleged assault happened outside the university’s premises.
FEU countered that although the incident occurred outside the school premises, the students’ conduct “directly affects the good order and welfare of the school.”
The SC, in ruling on the case, said the establishment of an educational institution requires rules and regulations necessary for the maintenance of an orderly educational program and the creation of an educational environment conducive to learning.
“The power of school officials to investigate, an adjunct of its power to suspend or expel, is a necessary corollary to the enforcement of such rules and regulations and the maintenance of a safe and orderly educational environment conducive to learning,” the High Court said.
The SC said the school’s administrative investigation is “in order” and will determine whether the students’ presence in the school “is detrimental to the maintenance of a moral climate conducive to learning.”
Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on April 05, 2012.
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Have a good holiday, everyone!
Well this is STC we're talking about. Each school has a different set of rules and regulations that ALL students should follow. These rules have long been in their student handbook and they were informed about these particulars even before they got themselves enrolled. The sanctions are, yes, very harsh but the school deserves every right to impose them. If there was something the students did not like about the policies that the school held for 79 long years, then they shouldn't have enrolled in the first place.
I'm not judging these girls. Who am I to judge them anyway? I'm just a mere spectator to this case. What I'm saying is, let's give the STC Administration the credit that is due to them. There is nothing wrong about wearing a bikini especially having been informed that it was during a birthday party at a beach resort but the thing is, they had to keep the photos to themselves because they perfectly know that posting them online is against the school policy. Needless to say, they did not.
It's what we say, DURA LEX SED LEX - the law may be harsh, but it is the law.
Not everyone might agree with what I have to say but I will defend to the ends of the earth my right to say them anyway.
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