Catholic Church, Corruption and Morality

[darkwing]

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many deaths have been caused in the name of religion, bisan unsa pa na religion, basin Buddhist lang tingali kay maski ant dili patyon hehe

[tolstoi]

what about the mistakes of the Pagan church?

you mean mistakes TO the pagan church?

nope what i meant was..since they enjoy revealing the mistakes of Catholism, why not post the mistakes of their own religion?..don't tell me that theirs is a pure/clean =)

[Carlo Borromeo]

what about the mistakes of the Pagan church?

you mean mistakes TO the pagan church?

nope what i meant was..since they enjoy revealing the mistakes of Catholism, why not post the mistakes of their own religion?..don't tell me that theirs is a pure/clean =)

In Alan Moore's book FROM HELL, which was also adapted into a film starring Johnny Depp, the Freemasons were depicted as latter day pagans and that the Jack The Ripper murders of the late 1800's were done by a Freemason in the style of an old Freemason Ritual.

I'm really interested in this piece of speculative fiction because the book is lauded as one of the best written and research pieces about Jack the Ripper.

[spike_jersey12]

at least they have admnitted the mistakes not hiding them, the truth will set you free!

[i_a_m_d_e_d_e]

what about the mistakes of the pagan church?

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[wak_wak]

what about the mistakes of the pagan church?

btw, i need your help guys..
just a little bit of your time will do..
pls click on the link below..
thanks daan mga boys.. and girls..
http://world2.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=31006183

ikaw ha, mag biktima paka diri, unsa man ka vampire or a wolf? ahehehe..

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back to earth...

for me Pope John Paul II is the best, i saw him personaly pag World Youth Day, mga two meters iya distance from me

[i_a_m_d_e_d_e]

what about the mistakes of the pagan church?

btw, i need your help guys..
just a little bit of your time will do..
pls click on the link below..
thanks daan mga boys.. and girls..
http://world2.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=31006183

ikaw ha, mag biktima paka diri, unsa man ka vampire or a wolf? ahehehe..

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back to earth...

for me Pope John Paul II is the best, i saw him personaly pag World Youth Day, mga two meters iya distance from me

pareha ta.. vampire..
how do i know that you are one?
k pareha ta ug creator si dwight.. hahaha
kaila mo ni dwight? nakapatay na kog isa ka werewolf.. post man niya iya name dre sa istorya.. ako gi raid.. nyayhahahaha

[giddyboy]

Hi all,

I will start this thread w/ a commentary:

Sermons against corruption

Inquirer
Last updated 00:33am (Mla time) 12/12/2007


I believe that the bishops have not done enough in attending to the morals of their flock. In the matter of illegal gambling, for example, I have never heard any one of them or their priests preaching to the faithful that engaging in illegal gambling is, in fact, engaging in the devil’s work.

The same thing goes with bribery and extortion because these are works of evil as well. The problem is that the bishops sometimes even condone the participation of the poor in illegal gambling, bribery, extortion and even stealing -- after all, they are poor and deprived. To the middle class, the bishops do not preach the absolutes of honesty and integrity. Instead, the flock learns how to compromise because everybody else is supposed to be corrupt.

I have never heard a sermon about the hard-line view that the buck stops with “me,� the individual. It is we, the individual citizens, who can squeeze corruption out of our system if only we refuse to give a bribe or to submit to petty and large-scale extortion. The problem is that our religious leaders have not emphasized enough to us that righteousness and eradicating corruption have also a “price.� At times, this means falling in line in a government office; or waiting for the light to turn green before moving on; or losing a bid because you didn’t bribe the officials who mattered.

Our people have to hear from the moral leaders, in very strong words that government corruption is evil; yes, that souls go to hell because of bribery, extortion and corruption. Anything short of those words will not do us any good because our people will not realize the urgency and gravity of the situation.

GUS COSIO (via email)

[giddyboy]

well, i created this thread hoping any discussions regarding how the Catholic Church is addressing current issues, petty or big...


poverty - how is the church addressing this issue to the flock? "lihok tawo, kay tabangan ko (God) ikaw."?
corruption - is the church really instilling to our minds that stopping corruption starts with ourselves?
gambling - is the church passive on this issue?
artificial birth control - is the church banning Catholics from the sacraments just because u follow artificial birth control? do u think what they preach is becoming obsolete?

As you see, the Catholic Church remains to be one of the most influential institutions in the country! No doubt about it!

[giddyboy]

tv patrol on ABS-CBN as of today 12/12/07:

"CBCP shocked to learn that 77% of Filipinos favor the use of condom"

ma-shocked pa diay cla ani?!? now the big question, wat r they going to do w/ that? dili na man ni mawala ang condom...

im a catholic & i have high respect to the church but sometimes "reality check" is needed to assess situations & not just rely on theological teachings. that is why, i believe, this is one hindrance of the church in conveying God's teachings in the digital age.

just like those pedophile priests we heard in the news and those that have illegitimate children, the church must be more active on these sensitive issues, and not just being defensive & passive about it.