Real Teachings of Jesus

[vahnhelsing]

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kapuy man nang styla van..hahaha...plus kuhaan pa jud kag partida...wala kay mahinumduman sa imung past life...
unsaon kaha nimu pag undo ug learn sa imung past mistakes...
so nig re incarnate, you might end up making the same mistakes all over again..

ambot lang ani nila noy, giunsa kaha nila paghuna-huna..
basin sila makadumdum sila unsa ila past life.
akoa nabantayan ang uban ilaha sagolan ilahang pagtoo ug laing pagtoo sama sa islam, buddhist, ug uban
pa nga malala nga mananap. Wala ba kaha sila naglibog ani nga pamaagi..

[Breakeven]

in Hinduism TS, you pay, you pay, you pay....in Islam, it's Insha'allah.....In Christianity, we don;t have to work for our salvation coz Jesus already made it for us, the perfect LOVE of God was manifested in his sacrifice.

Evil, Justice, Sin and Forgiveness.....all these 4 converge at the Cross!!! That's the beauty and uniqueness of the Christian faith.

[Breakeven]

i second the motion bai

That's very true noy for us that have the real conversion experience. Believe sad ko nimo bro despite sa imong pagkabogoy sa una..hehhe. Karon gigamit na nimo for God's glory and honor.

[noy]

ambot lang ani nila noy, giunsa kaha nila paghuna-huna..
basin sila makadumdum sila unsa ila past life.
akoa nabantayan ang uban ilaha sagolan ilahang pagtoo ug laing pagtoo sama sa islam, buddhist, ug uban
pa nga malala nga mananap. Wala ba kaha sila naglibog ani nga pamaagi..

nature na sa kasagaran nato bai,kung di gani ta kasabut sa usa ka butang...
ngita daun tag lain..wa pa gani nato suwayi ug taman kung mu work ba jud...
ako bro..wala ko muclaim nga sweto nako sa pagtuong Christianismo...
maong wala jud ni nako biyae.first kay naka tagamtam kos kalinaw nga gipangaita sa akong kalag..
ug labaw sa tanan..wa pa ko matagbaw...and i guess i never will till feb22..hahaha...joke ra na corehunter ha...
kung naa man gani ka diri pud..hehe...

[noy]

That's very true noy for us that have the real conversion experience. Believe sad ko nimo bro despite sa imong pagkabogoy sa una..hehhe. Karon gigamit na nimo for God's glory and honor.

cge gani tag pang gal2x sa una ug suyop nga maka daut to...unsa pa kaha ni nga kaluwasan atong gi istoryahan.
out of the many attempts and tries to do good bai...i only succeeded when i called the name of Jesus..
without any biblical knowledge, with confusion,hate and doubt sa kong heart..without the assistance of an evagelizer...
Jesus captured my heart...how?i don't know...
He must be God jud cguro diay...and when i started reading the bible...it was then that everyting came to light.
the feeling was so intense,murag naa koy dakoooooo kaau nga utang,kuwang pa akong kinabuhi para mapimpas unya naay nikalit ug duol nako giingnan ko nga ay nato ug problemaha kay ako nang gibayran...

[Fri13th]

in Hinduism TS, you pay, you pay, you pay....in Islam, it's Insha'allah.....In Christianity, we don;t have to work for our salvation coz Jesus already made it for us, the perfect LOVE of God was manifested in his sacrifice.

Evil, Justice, Sin and Forgiveness.....all these 4 converge at the Cross!!! That's the beauty and uniqueness of the Christian faith.

You nailed it! Can't agree more ani nga statement..

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

bro, so basically you are incorporating buddhism and Christianity? and perhaps other religious ideas of salvation pud..
that basically shows you are a seeker bro..
i've also read some of your replies regarding not consulting Christian religious leaders(priest,pastor..)
'cause you think bias ra ilang itubag sa imu...don't you think biased pud ka for thinking that way?
i understand bai nganu nangita ka ug other teachings,'cause there are things nga wa nimu masabtan sa Christian nga teaching or at least the Christian teaching that we know..why not try to invest your time and searching within the walls of Christianity lang usa TS, 'cause ani man gud na...i hope you won't take this negatively ha...
perhaps the reason why you cannot accept Jesus to be God because of a lot factors...
maybe poor teachings nga nakuha nimu sa Christian community...
,aybe wala pa ka naka sugat ug tao nga nakapasabut nimu ug tarong...
and as a result you ventured to other teachings...and it turned out nga nakasabut ka ngadto...but THAT somehow bai
does not PROVE nga mao nay TRUTH just because the explanation was perfectly laid over...
ask lang ko TS,
have you tried all possible ways to understand why Christians consider Jesus to be God?
by what you said the reason why you seek because it is important to you...
all sort of explanations why Christians believed that Jesus is God and is the only Christ..
are found on the internet...you'll just to try looking for them if you're mind is really open about these things?
'cause you cannotanswer your questions if you already have pre-concieved ideas or biases within you...
most of all, i know you've already read the bible...but try reading it...without the things you've learned...
without your current interpretations...like as if you're reading it the first time...
if you're really up to it....

another question TS,do you think the apostle Paul was able to attain "chirsthood"?

and you said earlier nga you have found an easier way to be saved diba?
which is easier bai, ikaw maningkamut sa imung kaugalingun?kung mapakyas ka,balik sa uno...hangtud makapasar ka and wala pa jud ta kahibaw how many attempts you have to go through..(this is the concpet of reincarnation ha)...plus naa pa jud apan bai, diba we learn from our mistakes?how are we to use our mistakes asa learning tool when we can't even remember our past life?if there's any...
or....
ningkamut ka sa imung tanang makaya,kanang maka ingun ka nga mao ra jud to,...then naa motubos nimu ug mu puno kung unsa man gani imung pagkukulang..para mahimu kang angayan?(this is the Christian way of salvation).

asay mas sayun bai?

lastly, do you belive God is Love?if so...
asa sa duha ka example above ang nag display ug akto sa pag higugma?

before bro i worship Jesus as God, but now i doubt... doubt lng ha, meaning i'm not sure yet... considering the statement, explanations and interpretations nga everyone can attain Christhood, i think Paul had attained what Jesus had attained but could be that Jesus is more advance and have attained more than Christhood

here are the options about Jesus as God:
1. Christianity - Jesus is God, the only Son of God
2. Christ - God is impersonal and so is Christ (but not Jesus)
3. Jesus is not the only Son of God - bec we are all sons of God

1. if thinking that Jesus is God, what will I do to be saved? wait for his second coming? i mean many people for almost 2000 years, been waiting for his coming back? just believe in him then i will be saved? and if reincarnation is true, he could had come back already but people don't recognize him anymore, failure already happened and is still happening, d na tinood nga mubalik pa siya dri bro as Jesus para nako, why man, para ilansang na pud? then would create a war bec all the christians will be trying to defend him nga di malansang ug usab. then unsa christian group iyang pili-on nga naa man differences ang different christianity

2. If God is not a super person, like we humans but with powers, and His only Son is Christ (similar but lesser in nature), if that thought is true and i work my self to attain that. then if it is not true, at least i tried, but i could still go back to my religion. ang bag-o ninyo ma membro di ba pareha ra sa pagtan-aw sa Ginoo sa mga karaan? Or special ang karaan nga members para sa Ginoo?

3. kani murag sayon sayon ni sabton, i already explained it in my previous post: Man is body, spirit and soul, why we are all sons of God bec we are our souls, ang atong soul anak sa Ginoo nga Soul pud, ug nganong nalahi sa christianity, naa sa akong previous post, but if want more explanation, tagaan ghapon taka

"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment." (Matt. 22:37-38 )


with your own opinion bro, how can you explain these verses? these are from the bible, i mean apilon gyud na nimo ang naa sa bible or pili-on lng pud nimo?

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" (Matt. 7:21-23)

"My teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me." (John 7:16)

"If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but He sent me." (John 8:42)

Can i ask you bro... are you a son of God?

[darknin']

wa pa jud diay ni matapos? hehehe

OT for me the real teaching is to do good to all your neighbors, i dont care what other people believe in but i know my own faith and the things that i should do, salvation or no salvation i believe that we still have a good God. the Alpha and the Omega

peace y'all

[Breakeven]

cge gani tag pang gal2x sa una ug suyop nga maka daut to...unsa pa kaha ni nga kaluwasan atong gi istoryahan.
out of the many attempts and tries to do good bai...i only succeeded when i called the name of Jesus..
without any biblical knowledge, with confusion,hate and doubt sa kong heart..without the assistance of an evagelizer...
Jesus captured my heart...how?i don't know...
He must be God jud cguro diay...and when i started reading the bible...it was then that everyting came to light.
the feeling was so intense,murag naa koy dakoooooo kaau nga utang,kuwang pa akong kinabuhi para mapimpas unya naay nikalit ug duol nako giingnan ko nga ay nato ug problemaha kay ako nang gibayran...

That's amazing noy
it's so nice to hear testimonies like that. You know, almost pareha tingali ta ug past and it's by calling the name of Jesus and crying out to God that changed my life also. It was the most important thing that happend to my life that;s why I understand why the fear of the early christians turns to courage in spreading the gospel.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

I respect your view also bro. Yes there are people who are wearing the cloak of christianity and living like the unbelievers. But only God knows our hearts.

We are not surprise when that time comes bro, in fact it was prophesied already in the book of revelation about the coming reign of the antichrist and what will be the fate of the christians. I for one is willing to give my life for my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ!

i think you have not read my explanation about satan who could be the antichrist:

unsa imong comment ani bro, para add nako sa akong nahibaw-an:

Thanks bro, i like your input. Upon reading your post and compare it with other source, I come to analyze this:

We are all sons of God, of course kung babae, daughter, ambot lng ang bayot ug sons or daughters ba? we are all created in the same image and likeness, God is pure goodness, and so inside us is pure goodness also. God is Soul and so is our souls. Satan rebelled against God, he was able to convince others to rebel against God. They dwell on earth (so mamutang nga earth, mao ang hell), now, even God love satan and his followers but si satan di gyud siya, he wants to have his own kingdom diri sa earth. so unsa man iya gibuhat, gipatoo niya nga tao nga you can do whatever you want diri sa earth, you can be happy on earth, so they will love the earthly life and forget about God. He lied about God and the nature of man, he deceived us nga dili ta mahimong ginoo, and that the only son of God is Jesus para makaingon pud ang tao nga tao ra gyud ta, si Jesus ra ang Ginoo.

ngano iya ma ning gibuhat? because if ang tao, mubalik sa Ginoo, kinsa pa man ang mahabilin dri, siya na lng. kanang binuhatan sa tao nga maayo, mao na ang sa Ginoo, ang dli maayo mao na sa satanas. so once accepted na sa tao nga si Jesus ra ang God, he will not work his best, he will not do even a single step of knowing who really is, who really his father is. he will not remember that he is god the son of God. But tungod ky son of God man siya, sometimes, he will really do good bisan naa sa earth, but bec ky limot man siya nga pure goodness nga nature nya, he will do bad things just to live a happy life sa earth.

now, once man remembers that he is god, the son of God, he will return to his Father. And that is not acceptable by satan. how to support those explanations. man is body, spirit and soul. if we identify ourselves with our bodies, then we are earthbound ruled by satan, and of course our parents will be our biological parents. but if we think that we are souls, we will remember our Father who is God then we will long to go back to our Father. Son soul-Father soul (our soul-God).