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    Quote Originally Posted by pusang_iring View Post
    Advertising, wla jud nay ayo....kapila na ko nailad anang ilang produkto na pagpalit nako....opposite diay to sa ilang propaganda ^^

    I wanna discuss this...

    "Human behavior is a product of the environment. Genetic components, which manifest in
    physiological traits, serve only to create propensities for certain reactions. Therefore, since it is the
    environment that influences our behavior itself, if we find patterns of behavior in our society that are
    socially offensive and abusive, we should look to the environment to figure out why those behaviors
    manifest to begin with. The legal system today is a massive social distortion that does not take into
    account the environmental influences of a supposed “criminal”. In a Resource-Based Economy, where
    scarcity and deprivation are deliberately reduced through modern technological methods, the
    behavior of society will change dramatically for the better"


    So true, but who's not conditioned to think like that (that criminals should go to jail, they deserve to be punished) It is hardwired in us even emotionally. To us it only makes sense (emotionally) that if someone throws a rock at us, we dont throw back with bread, we seek revenge. Imagine the ramifications if every criminals in jails now will go to "environmental plea" that they were only forced by the environment to do such acts. Doesn't people hold responsibility for their actions as we have been indoctrinated to believe? DOes the zeitgeist adhere determinism? no free-will? 99% environment, 1% human nature that we didnt choose anyway, we're just born with it?
    i'm no psychologist or sociologist but from what i understand so far, TVP wishes to eleminate the conditions that generate socially offensive behavior... That would mean altering the environment so that in turn it would alter people's behavior (gi gamit ni nako sa ako thesis sa arki). And even if there are certain emotional reactions that are "hardwired" or innate in us humans (such as what you said, seeking revenge), we as humans have the capacity to override this maybe through achieving a level of awareness. Hope that makes sense...

    as you can see... i'm not the most competent guy to answer your questions... I'm just a lurker in thezeitgeistmovement.com forums, i just enjoy reading most of the relevant posts on that site. hehe. but i like this kind of discussion, it stimulates the mind.
    Last edited by grovestreet; 03-12-2009 at 08:24 PM.

  2. #92
    Thanks.

    Hapit na Zday!!! Here are some aims of The Zeitgeist movement for those who may be curious and their goals, which some has already happened.

    PHASE ONE

    The first phase of The Venus Project's long-term plans is already underway. Jacque Fresco, futurist, inventor, industrial designer and founder of The Venus Project and his associate Roxanne Meadows have completed the construction of a 25-acre research center in Venus, Florida to help present the proposals of The Venus Project. Videos, pamphlets, and a recently published book, The Best That Money Can't Buy: Beyond Politics, Poverty, and War, have been created to help raise awareness about this project and its many proposals.

    PHASE TWO

    Phase Two includes the production of a full-length feature film that will depict how a world embracing the proposals advanced by The Venus Project would work. This film would provide a positive vision of a peaceful society in which all human beings form a global family on planet Earth. A civilization in which all people are engaged in the pursuit of a better understanding of the world they share. This film has been designed to be an entertaining and educational experience for both adults and children.

    PHASE THREE

    To test its designs and proposals The Venus Project is working towards putting its ideals into practice by the construction of an experimental research city. Blueprints for most of the initial technologies and buildings have begun. Fund-raising efforts are currently under way to help support the construction of this first experimental city. This new experimental research city would be devoted to working towards the aims and goals of The Venus Project, which are:

    1. Realizing the declaration of the world's resources as being the common heritage of all Earth's people.

    2. Transcending the need for the artificial boundaries that separate people.

    3. Outgrowing monetary-based, nationalistic economies with a resource-based world economy.

    4. Assisting in stabilizing the world's population through education and voluntary birth control.

    5. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.

    6. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, agricultural industries and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and able to conveniently serve the needs of all people.

    7. Sharing and applying new technologies for the benefit of all nations.

    8. Developing and using clean, renewable energy sources.

    9. Manufacturing the highest quality products for the benefit of the world's people.

    10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega projects.

    11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.

    12. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.

    13. Outgrowing any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.

    14. Arriving at methodologies by careful research, rather than random opinions.

    15. Enhancing communication in schools so that our language is relevant to the physical conditions of the world.

    16. Providing not only the necessities of life, but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind while emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.

    17. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the changes and challenges that lie ahead.

    PHASE FOUR

    After the research experimental city is built, a theme park is also planned that will both entertain and inform visitors about the possibilities for humane and environmentally friendly life-styles planned by The The Venus Project. It will feature intelligent houses; high-efficiency, non polluting transportation systems; advanced computer technology; and a number of other innovations that can add value to the lives of all people - in a very short period of time.

    No one can actually predict the future. We can only extrapolate on present information and trends. Population growth, technological change, worldwide environmental conditions, and available resources are the primary criteria for future projections.

    There is no single philosophy or point of view whether religious, political, scientific, or ideological, that someone would not take issue with. We feel certain, however, that the only aspects of The Venus Project that may appear threatening are those which others project onto it.

    The Venus Project is neither Utopian nor Orwellian, nor does it reflect the dreams of impractical idealists. Instead, it presents attainable goals requiring only the intelligent application of what we already know. The only limitations are those which we impose upon ourselves.

    We encourage you to become better informed about the proposals of this project through our books, videos and seminars. If you identify with this direction, we welcome you to join with us and work towards its realization. See our photo gallery to view our proposed cites.

  3. #93
    haha ugma na zday... can't wait to see the recordings sa event. Mayta naa sad unta to local event diri, pero i think dili pa kaayo ready ang uban...

  4. #94

    Default The obama deception

    just like zeitgeist, but this time its OBAMA in the hot seat...check it out guys... YouTube - The Obama Deception Part 1/12

  5. #95
    zday featured in newyork times...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/17/ny...eist.html?_r=1

    They’ve Seen the Future and Dislike the Present


    By ALAN FEUER
    Published: March 16, 2009

  6. #96
    I just saw the movie...

    must jud ni nga tanawon sa mga taw.

    aprub!

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