Hell is NOT a Lake of Fire. There is NO Endless Punishment

[necrotic freak]

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King James Version:

Revelation 20:14

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

well i prefer the Rivised Standard Version rather than KJV

[deadballshots]

oi revelation napud. bag o napud ni da...

hell a lake of fire? wla pamanta ka adto hehehe!

ma ad2 an rana nimo bay if bad ka while ur stay here in this world,

[dartzed]

hell is like smashing your hand with a mace untill your hand will be torned apart by it.. then restore nsad imo hands nya bunalan nsad.. without an end.. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa everyday, every hour, every minute, and every second is torment...

[Mr.Ho_chia]

hell is like smashing your hand with a mace untill your hand will be torned apart by it.. then restore nsad imo hands nya bunalan nsad.. without an end.. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa everyday, every hour, every minute, and every second is torment...

it's more than the bunal. its an everlasting consuming fire that burn your flesh day and night. the flesh is destroyed but not totally lost, so that the pain is sustained. there is no hope, tormented every second. no rest. eternal suffering that is by the second. No hope, no hope--- None. One seeks death but no one will find it, because death itself is burning in the lake of fire, even worst than the river of lava spewed by any very active volcano! a pool of lava and you are in it!

whew! more than scary........ no amount of description is enough to say about the torment of hell!

[munzter666]

^flesh you say?

gi point out nina oakboy...even silent-kill, even me, nga pain is dependent on the physical aspect of the body....how can a spirit feel if this spirit has no nerve endings nor nervous system? sounds like you know something about the anatomy and physiology of a "spirit" saying those...

[Sinyalan]

Revelation 20:14 states "Then Death and Hades were thrown in the lake of fire [Hell]."

Hades? How did hades become part of the bible? HADES was a greek mythology god.

[mordecai_327]

• Glossary:

The words associated with Hell

Gehenna
In the OT, the word for hell is 'ge-hinnom' meaning "Valley of Hinnom." It was a place to the southwest of Jerusalem. This place was once "called 'Topheth' and derived from an Aramaic word meaning 'fireplace.' It was here that some pagan kings practiced human sacrifice by fire (2 Chron. 28:3; 33:6; Jer. 7:31; 32:25)(1). This is probably why in the NT the word came to be associated with destruction by fire. The word 'gehenna' is found in the NT 12 times and every instance is spoken of by Jesus. In the NT, "gehenna" is used of a condition and never of a place.

Hades
This word only occurs in the NT, ten times, and corresponds to the OT word "sheol." Jesus uses the word four times: Matt. 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23. The other six occur in Acts 2:27,31; Rev. 1:18; 6:8; 20:13,14.
It was probably the "subterranean abode of all the dead until the judgment. It was divided into two departments, paradise or Abraham's bosom for the good, and Gehenna or hell for the bad."(2) In particular, in the account of Lazarus and the Rich man of (Luke 16:19-31), it is the place of the conscious dead who are wicked.

Sheol
"The Hebrew word Sheol is probably derived from a root "to make hollow," and was seen as the common receptacle of the dead and in the great many places the word appears in the OT, it is referring to the grave.(3) It is a place and is mentioned in Gen. 37:35; Num. 16:30,33; Psalm 16:10, etc. Sheol has many meanings in scripture: the grave, the underworld, the state of the dead. It was supposed to be below the surface of the earth (Ezek. 31:15,17; Psalm 86:13).


• Rebuttal to the thread Title:

Hell is a place of eternal fire and punishment

Unquenchable Fire
Matt. 3:12 "And His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

Fiery Hell
Matt. 5:22, "whoever shall say, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell." See also, Matt. 5:29,30.

Fiery Hell
Matt. 18:8-9, "And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal fire. 9"And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out, and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into the fiery hell."

Eternal Fire
Matt. 25:41, "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels.

Eternal Punishment
Matt. 25:46, "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
The word 'eternal' in both places is "aionios" which means 1)without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be; 2)without beginning; 3)without end, never to cease, everlasting. The word 'punishment' is the word kolasis and it means "to punish, with the implication of resulting severe suffering - 'to punish, punishment.'"(5)

Eternal Fire
Jude 7, "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."

Lake of Fire
Rev. 20:15, "And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."



http://www.carm.org/doctrine/hell.htm

[Sinyalan]

ahhhh.. so they borrowed the name from the greek god. that's hades in christianity but actually, that was Greeks' god. Like some references says, "like other first-century Jews literate in Greek, early Christians used the Greek word Hades to translate the Hebrew word Sheol". So, there is no actual term for hell in jewish language.

[boomer]

Revelation 20:14 states "Then Death and Hades were thrown in the lake of fire [Hell]."

Hades? How did hades become part of the bible? HADES was a greek mythology god.

there is a bit of truth about this...the concept of hell was somewhat borrowed from pagan beliefs. just like those unrelated traditions we just had....the easter bunny and the chocolate hunt.haha

[psyccaliente]

share lng ko ha...

many things in christianity are based in pagan beliefs... for one, nakaread ko b4 that the date of christmas was actually based from a pagan ceremony and the flower poinsettia was based from the pentagram... i'm still looking for proof though...

anyway... we just had a retreat and the speaker sort of told us that a geologists claimed that he "drilled through the gates of hell" bcoz of some recorded "screaming". They said it was recorded from a microphone lowered onto a labyrinth that their driller went through. The speaker even let us listen to the screened copy og what was heard in the mic. We heard the screaming...

I say things even though I'm quite skeptical about it