Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

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Wait, was it wrong to repeat His prayers?

When you pray, you have to beg for it.. (magpakiluoy)
Like the woman on the parable (Luke 18:1,3-5).

Jesus gave us an example.
Even as the Son, He have to beg to His Father to take away the cup of suffering, cause He know it would be very painful.
That's Humility in prayer.

And that what we also should do.

He did not repeat it in the same instance. There's nothing wrong with it.

Pero para isulat mo sa libro, at dasalin mong paulit-ulit, yun ang repitive at non-sense:

Example:
Make the Sign of the Cross and say the "Apostles' Creed."
Say the "Our Father."
Say three "Hail Marys."
Say the "Glory be to the Father."
Announce the First Mystery; then say the "Our Father."
Say ten "Hail Marys," while meditating on the Mystery.
Say the "Glory be to the Father."
Announce the Second Mystery; then say the "Our Father." Repeat 6 and 7 and continue with Third, Fourth and Fifth Mysteries in the same manner.

[redhorse1L]

Worship definition via WIKIPEDIA? LOLS!

Define Worship Biblically beh..

Mao.! kay dictionary man na ang Bible.
Naa diay formal definition sa worship sa Bible? What language? Hebrew? Greek? Aramaic?

If bowing is already worship=adoration.
Nakasala diay si Moses atong ni-bow cya in front sa Ark of the Covenant?

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

Mao.! kay dictionary man na ang Bible.
Naa diay formal definition sa worship sa Bible? What language? Hebrew? Greek? Aramaic?

If bowing is already worship=adoration.
Nakasala diay si Moses atong ni-bow cya in front sa Ark of the Covenant?

Yung mga bagay na yun, yung cherubin at yung ark, mga iniutos ng Dios yun haha...

haha nasa Bible ang worship may paliwanag yan.

Ngayon kung tunay kang katoliko, magpost ka sana ng definition ng Worship based on Katesismo haha hindi sa wikipedia

[redhorse1L]

He did not repeat it in the same instance. There's nothing wrong with it.

Pero para isulat mo sa libro, at dasalin mong paulit-ulit, yun ang repitive at non-sense:

Example:
Make the Sign of the Cross and say the "Apostles' Creed."
Say the "Our Father."
Say three "Hail Marys."
Say the "Glory be to the Father."
Announce the First Mystery; then say the "Our Father."
Say ten "Hail Marys," while meditating on the Mystery.
Say the "Glory be to the Father."
Announce the Second Mystery; then say the "Our Father." Repeat 6 and 7 and continue with Third, Fourth and Fifth Mysteries in the same manner.

Hahaha, wala na, likoy na jud ta aneh.
You keep on throwing senseless stuffs just to cover up the issue.

If you say NOT in the same instance, naa lagi diay cooldown?
Jesus went back to the disciples to check if they are awake, but found them asleep. After waking them up, He went back to the garden to pray(the same prayer). It doesn't mean nga ni-stop usa cya ug pray para dili ma "same instance".

Please put aside the rosary or any form of vocal prayers. Don't divert the issue.

The question is: From what Jesus did, praying at the garden, is it bad to repeat your prayers?

Check out the Catholicism of the Catholic Church on the forms of prayers.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P9J.HTM

Dinha i-base imong questions.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

Para sa magaling sa History ng Catholic church, is it true that the catholic church traces its roots to the apostles? Wala bang patid yung pag-trace? Meaning hindi ba naputol up until now?

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

Hahaha, wala na, likoy na jud ta aneh.
You keep on throwing senseless stuffs just to cover up the issue.

If you say NOT in the same instance, naa lagi diay cooldown?
Jesus went back to the disciples to check if they are awake, but found them asleep. After waking them up, He went back to the garden to pray(the same prayer). It doesn't mean nga ni-stop usa cya ug pray para dili ma "same instance".

Please put aside the rosary or any form of vocal prayers. Don't divert the issue.

The question is: From what Jesus did, praying at the garden, is it bad to repeat your prayers?

It is not bad because he did not repeat in in the same instance. Ang kuleeet. I don't have to set aside the rosary as a bad example. In the first place, that was my example of repetitive praying and not your'e verse. Hindi mo ako mahuhuli sa verse na yan kapatid. Wala ka na bang ibang verse? LOL. Ilang beses ko na sinagot yan. Hindi masama yung ginawang paraan ng pag-dadasal ni Jesus. Get over it. Next topic na tayo. LOL.

[redhorse1L]

Yung mga bagay na yun, yung cherubin at yung ark, mga iniutos ng Dios yun haha...

haha nasa Bible ang worship may paliwanag yan.

Ngayon kung tunay kang katoliko, magpost ka sana ng definition ng Worship based on Katesismo haha hindi sa wikipedia

Suit yourself..

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

IV. "You Shall Not Make For Yourself a Graven Image . . ."
2129 The divine injunction included the prohibition of every representation of God by the hand of man. Deuteronomy explains: "Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure...."66 It is the absolutely transcendent God who revealed himself to Israel. "He is the all," but at the same time "he is greater than all his works."67 He is "the author of beauty."68

2130 Nevertheless, already in the Old Testament, God ordained or permitted the making of images that pointed symbolically toward salvation by the incarnate Word: so it was with the bronze serpent, the ark of the covenant, and the cherubim.69

2131 Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified against the iconoclasts the veneration of icons - of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new "economy" of images.

2132 The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, "the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype," and "whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it."70 The honor paid to sacred images is a "respectful veneration," not the adoration due to God alone:

Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. the movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is.71

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

Suit yourself..

Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText

IV. "You Shall Not Make For Yourself a Graven Image . . ."
2129 The divine injunction included the prohibition of every representation of God by the hand of man. Deuteronomy explains: "Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure...."66 It is the absolutely transcendent God who revealed himself to Israel. "He is the all," but at the same time "he is greater than all his works."67 He is "the author of beauty."68

2130 Nevertheless, already in the Old Testament, God ordained or permitted the making of images that pointed symbolically toward salvation by the incarnate Word: so it was with the bronze serpent, the ark of the covenant, and the cherubim.69

2131 Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified against the iconoclasts the veneration of icons - of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new "economy" of images.

2132 The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, "the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype," and "whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it."70 The honor paid to sacred images is a "respectful veneration," not the adoration due to God alone:

Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. the movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is.71

OK thanks for posting, but I will not buy that No way. LOL.

[redhorse1L]

Para sa magaling sa History ng Catholic church, is it true that the catholic church traces its roots to the apostles? Wala bang patid yung pag-trace? Meaning hindi ba naputol up until now?

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: List of Popes

1. St. Peter (32-67)
2. St. Linus (67-76)
3. St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88 )
4. St. Clement I (88-97)
5. St. Evaristus (97-105)
6. St. Alexander I (105-115)
7. St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I
8. St. Telesphorus (125-136)
9. St. Hyginus (136-140)
10. St. Pius I (140-155) .. . .. etc.. etc..

263. Paul VI (1963-78 )
264. John Paul I (1978 )
265. John Paul II (1978-2005)
266. Benedict XVI (2005—)

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And for sure you have a follow-up question on this.
But before you do, I'm giving you a challenge.

Give a historical account that traces your Church to the time of the Apostles.

Eng eng eng..

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: List of Popes

1. St. Peter (32-67)
2. St. Linus (67-76)
3. St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-8
4. St. Clement I (88-97)
5. St. Evaristus (97-105)
6. St. Alexander I (105-115)
7. St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I
8. St. Telesphorus (125-136)
9. St. Hyginus (136-140)
10. St. Pius I (140-155) .. . .. etc.. etc..

263. Paul VI (1963-7
264. John Paul I (197
265. John Paul II (1978-2005)
266. Benedict XVI (2005—)

---------------
And for sure you have a follow-up question on this.
But before you do, I'm giving you a challenge.

Give a historical account that traces your Church to the time of the Apostles.

Eng eng eng..

Paki-list naman ng Anti-popes Ang dami nila? Naputol na haha...