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  1. #311

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion


    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Typo error. Should be verse Mark 14:39.. Is that all you can say?


    Please look at the work "vain" .
    Does praying over and over again, heartily, a vain prayer?

    Again, answer this.
    Why did Jesus repeated His prayers, when He know His Father already knows what He is asking?
    Even if you pray heartily, if your prayer says:
    Aba Ginoong Maria! Napupuno ka ng grasya,
    Ang Panginoong Diyos ay sumasaiyo,
    bukod ka pong Pinagpala sa babaeng lahat at
    pinagpala naman ang iyong anak na si Hesus.
    Santa Maria Ina ng Diyos,
    ipanalangin mo po kaming makasalanan,
    ngayon at kung kami'y mamamatay. Amen.

    then it is in vain.
    Why did Jesus repeated His prayers, when He know His Father already knows what He is asking?
    I honestly do not know why. Pero sigurado ako, alam na ng Dios yung sasabihin niya.

    So ang stand mo is maaaring hindi alam ng Dios kung ano yung dasal ni Kristo kaya inulit ni Kristo? Tama ba?

  2. #312

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Sis, malic_2 is practicing Islam.
    And I admired his open mindedness on religious faith, esp in Catholicism.

    Dili pareha sa uban ba, perting mangbato, murag membro sa blood ug crips..

    Ang problema man gud, they never quote the Cathecism of the Catholic Church sa ilang mga pangutana. Instead, kana ra ilang na-dunggan sa ilang pastor mao ilang i-bash diri.

    The result, puro misconceptions sa Catholic doctrine.
    who cares what he is practicing, everybody has the right to his own religion, We all have to respect one's beliefs keh christian ka or muslim or buddhist or atheist.


    and sakto ka, ang problema is sge silag daut sa atong relihiyon niya wala baya silay makuha. May untag makakakwarta sila ana. Dautun man jud na ang sikat ba. hahahaha.

  3. #313

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Sis, malic_2 is practicing Islam.
    And I admired his open mindedness on religious faith, esp in Catholicism.

    Dili pareha sa uban ba, perting mangbato, murag membro sa blood ug crips..

    Ang problema man gud, they never quote the Cathecism of the Catholic Church sa ilang mga pangutana. Instead, kana ra ilang na-dunggan sa ilang pastor mao ilang i-bash diri.

    The result, puro misconceptions sa Catholic doctrine.
    The Catechism of the Council of Trent (1566)

    Authorities:
    No. 3 In conformity with the Decrees of the Plenary Council and the Code of 1918.
    Nihil Obstat: A.G. Casas, Censor Librorum
    Imprematur: Rufino J. Santos, D.D., Archbishop of Manila, De La Salle College,
    Brothers of the Christian Schools, Manila Philippines 1955

    Page 86
    "10. What is a saint?
    A saint in the strict sense of the word is one who is in heaven, and has been presented by the Church for the public worship of the faithful

    Page 87
    "13. Is the worship of the saints confined to their persons?
    No; it extends also to their relics and images "

    "14. What do we call Relics?
    We call relics:
    1. The remains of the body of a saint who has been canonized or beatified by the church;
    2. The objects which have belonged to the saints, or which have touched their bodies: such as linen, coffins, etc."

    15. Ought we to worship holy images?
    We should have, particularly in our churches, images of Our Lord, as also of the Blessed Virgin and the saints.."


    source Catechism archives.org

  4. #314

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    The Catechism of the Council of Trent (1566)

    Authorities:
    No. 3 In conformity with the Decrees of the Plenary Council and the Code of 1918.
    Nihil Obstat: A.G. Casas, Censor Librorum
    Imprematur: Rufino J. Santos, D.D., Archbishop of Manila, De La Salle College,
    Brothers of the Christian Schools, Manila Philippines 1955

    Page 86
    "10. What is a saint?
    A saint in the strict sense of the word is one who is in heaven, and has been presented by the Church for the public worship of the faithful

    Page 87
    "13. Is the worship of the saints confined to their persons?
    No; it extends also to their relics and images "

    "14. What do we call Relics?
    We call relics:
    1. The remains of the body of a saint who has been canonized or beatified by the church;
    2. The objects which have belonged to the saints, or which have touched their bodies: such as linen, coffins, etc."

    15. Ought we to worship holy images?
    We should have, particularly in our churches, images of Our Lord, as also of the Blessed Virgin and the saints.."


    source Catechism archives.org

    i think you have to understand the words "veneration" "adoration"

  5. #315

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    - mau man ni katung si Solomon nagpahimug revolto sa iyang self ug katung mga israelites nga nagbinuang while naa si Moses sa Mt. Sinai.
    kung wala ka kabaw ayaw tugatuga ug assume, so kanang mga Islam diay idolatry diay na nila ang sawg kay sige man silag bow down ana. ayaw patakpataka dong kung wa kay nahibal-an, ayawg patuyang sa imong gibati!
    And what did Moses do after he Found out nga nagbuhat ug nagsimba sila ug rebolto? Nalipay?
    Mao bitaw to ilang gibuhat, nag lilok ug Idol nga Gi worship - unsay nakalahi sa inyung practice sa ginabuhat sa mga tawo ni Moses?

    Nganu gud di ko kahibalo anang pagsimba ug nililok nga kahoy, kana pag himu ug imahin sa Ginoo - Tibuok kalibutang nakahibalo ana nga practice, basin ikaw wa kahibalo kay nagpakabuta bungol ka. Basin taas ra kaayu imu pride to accept nga wa na gitudlo ni Jesus.

    Naa diay nililok nga kahoy or statuwa nga giahapa hapaan sa mga Muslim?

    Ngutana bitaw ko unsa nang mag kiss kiss ug rebolto, unsa nang pahiran an rebolto kay tambal, Unsa nang i parade ang rebolto, unsa nang mag hapa atubangan sa rebolto? - Naa ba na sa Bibiliya? Gitudlo ba na ni Kristo? Wa man nimu tubaga, mu likoy man ka, naa pay tinubagan nga murag bata. tarung ug pangutana tarungon ug tubag. Masuko man diay ka if naa mangutana.

  6. #316

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Nganu mangasuko man jud if naay mu question oi? Affected?

  7. #317

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    And what did Moses do after he Found out nga nagbuhat ug nagsimba sila ug rebolto? Nalipay?
    Mao bitaw to ilang gibuhat, nag lilok ug Idol nga Gi worship - unsay nakalahi sa inyung practice sa ginabuhat sa mga tawo ni Moses?

    Nganu gud di ko kahibalo anang pagsimba ug nililok nga kahoy, kana pag himu ug imahin sa Ginoo - Tibuok kalibutang nakahibalo ana nga practice, basin ikaw wa kahibalo kay nagpakabuta bungol ka. Basin taas ra kaayu imu pride to accept nga wa na gitudlo ni Jesus.

    Naa diay nililok nga kahoy or statuwa nga giahapa hapaan sa mga Muslim?

    Ngutana bitaw ko unsa nang mag kiss kiss ug rebolto, unsa nang pahiran an rebolto kay tambal, Unsa nang i parade ang rebolto, unsa nang mag hapa atubangan sa rebolto? - Naa ba na sa Bibiliya? Gitudlo ba na ni Kristo? Wa man nimu tubaga, mu likoy man ka, naa pay tinubagan nga murag bata. tarung ug pangutana tarungon ug tubag. Masuko man diay ka if naa mangutana.
    nakasabot ka sa akong gisulti? murag wa man jud ka kasabot.
    what are you expecting from us?
    It's normal for a catholic to be affected kay religion na imo gipangutana. It's a sensitive issue. Please don't place misconceptions over this thread. Gasalig man gud ka na dili imong relihiyon ang giquestion.

  8. #318

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Ang problema man gud, they never quote the Cathecism of the Catholic Church sa ilang mga pangutana. Instead, kana ra ilang na-dunggan sa ilang pastor mao ilang i-bash diri.

    The result, puro misconceptions sa Catholic doctrine.
    mao nay gitawag nga straw man argument.

  9. #319

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    nakasabot ka sa akong gisulti? murag wa man jud ka kasabot.
    what are you expecting from us?
    It's normal for a catholic to be affected kay religion na imo gipangutana. It's a sensitive issue. Please don't place misconceptions over this thread. Gasalig man gud ka na dili imong relihiyon ang giquestion.
    Yes its a sensitive issue, pero wala may nag bugal bugal sa imung Religion, ni ask raman ug tarung. Nganu man diay ug tubagon ug tarung. Mao baya ni topic, questions about sa inyu practices ug doktrina. If kabalo ka unsa imu gibarugan, dapat mu tubag ka dapat imu i lad-lad imu mga katarungan. Unsa may pulos magpabilin ka ana imu pagtuo if dili ka kahibalo mu depensa ana.

    Di man sad ko mutoo nga namugna na ang mga Doktrina sa inyung relihiyon nga walay basehan.

    If you can create a Thread bahin sa akong pagtuo, mutubag ko didto Pero sure ko di ko masuko or mag binata sa akong tinubagan. Kay kahibalo ko nga kana akong pagtuo diin dha ko bunyagi DILI na akong Choice kundili Choice sa akong mga kalolohan which is mga tayo ra Ug Naa chance Masayop.

  10. #320

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    And what did Moses do after he Found out nga nagbuhat ug nagsimba sila ug rebolto? Nalipay?
    Mao bitaw to ilang gibuhat, nag lilok ug Idol nga Gi worship - unsay nakalahi sa inyung practice sa ginabuhat sa mga tawo ni Moses?
    my friend the idol that they worshiped was a representation of the pagan god of egypt mao to gi destroy kay they were trying to revive it. since devotees man sila ni Jehoah or yaweh mao to gi desroy ni Moses.

    nya ngano man agi gapahimo man og SNAKE si Jehovah para those who would see it ma ayo sa ilang sakit? in other words bai, images and statues is not totally prohibited sa bible.

    Nganu gud di ko kahibalo anang pagsimba ug nililok nga kahoy, kana pag himu ug imahin sa Ginoo - Tibuok kalibutang nakahibalo ana nga practice, basin ikaw wa kahibalo kay nagpakabuta bungol ka. Basin taas ra kaayu imu pride to accept nga wa na gitudlo ni Jesus.

    Naa diay nililok nga kahoy or statuwa nga giahapa hapaan sa mga Muslim?
    naay bato. pero di statue.

    Ngutana bitaw ko unsa nang mag kiss kiss ug rebolto, unsa nang pahiran an rebolto kay tambal, Unsa nang i parade ang rebolto, unsa nang mag hapa atubangan sa rebolto? - Naa ba na sa Bibiliya? Gitudlo ba na ni Kristo? Wa man nimu tubaga, mu likoy man ka, naa pay tinubagan nga murag bata. tarung ug pangutana tarungon ug tubag. Masuko man diay ka if naa mangutana.
    its an expression of gratitude bai, or gi express nimo ang imong emotions.

    naa kay wedding ring sa? or kabalo ba ka mo loto? gitudlo diay ni ni hesus?

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