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  1. #301

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion


    Catholic Bashing na pod ni?

    worshiping statues? representation ra man sigoro na ang mga statues. kabalo pod sigor ang mga tao oi nga bato ra na,its the deity nga gi represent ana ang ilang gitohoan.

    repetitive prayers? morag di pod ni sila(mga dili katoliko) mo bohat og repetitive prayers. kanang mga bored again sige man gani na sila og balik balik og ampo about pagpasalamat sa ilang pagkaon.

    asa man sa bible diay nga di puede ng repetitive prayers?

  2. #302

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Can you post Mark 14:37 lol,

    Do you know the meaning of that prayer? And did JEsus repeated the same prayer in the same instance? Like when you Catholics are praying the rosary?
    facepalm mode ON!

    You were asking if naa ba sa bible nga Jesus repeated His prayers.
    So, there it is! Naa!

    Nganong kinhanglan pa man jud i-emphasize nga nilakaw pa cya kay iyang gi-pukaw mga apostles?
    The most important point you're going to consider is: Why did Jesus repeated it? When His Father already knows what He is going to pray?

    Naa diay na cooldown ang praying?
    Like kung naay na-ICU imong loved-ones.. Mangadye ka, then cooldown usa mga 10mins, then Mangadye nasad ug balik?

    Dili kaha ka maka-sulti ug: "Lord, please Lord, Please, please please...."
    Ayaw ko ingna mo-gawas usa ka, sigarilyo for 15 mins, then resume nasad ug prayer?

    Again, rosary is a Vocal form of prayer.
    This form of prayer is used so the group can pray in Unison.

    Like singing the Our Father heartily, it makes a form of a prayer.
    It's like repeating Alleluiah! lifting your hearts to the Lord!.

  3. #303

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by neurain View Post
    nganong naa man daghan tao nga nagbase sa bibliya? kinsa diay nahimo sa bibliya? dba tao ra sab?

    You are right in saying nga tawo ang naghimo sa bible, but the were individuals guided by the HOLY SPIRIT

  4. #304

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    facepalm mode ON!

    You were asking if naa ba sa bible nga Jesus repeated His prayers.
    So, there it is! Naa!

    Nganong kinhanglan pa man jud i-emphasize nga nilakaw pa cya kay iyang gi-pukaw mga apostles?
    The most important point you're going to consider is: Why did Jesus repeated it? When His Father already knows what He is going to pray?

    Naa diay na cooldown ang praying?
    Like kung naay na-ICU imong loved-ones.. Mangadye ka, then cooldown usa mga 10mins, then Mangadye nasad ug balik?

    Dili kaha ka maka-sulti ug: "Lord, please Lord, Please, please please...."
    Ayaw ko ingna mo-gawas usa ka, sigarilyo for 15 mins, then resume nasad ug prayer?

    Again, rosary is a Vocal form of prayer.
    This form of prayer is used so the group can pray in Unison.

    Like singing the Our Father heartily, it makes a form of a prayer.
    It's like repeating Alleluiah! lifting your hearts to the Lord!.
    Post verse 37 first LOL. Hindi mo alam sinasabi mo.

    Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

    Parehong-pareho kasi kayo ng nasa example oh.. inuutlit ulit ang dasal kasi iniisip nila na mas pakikinggan sila ng Dios. Kung sa bagay kapatid, iba ang Dios mo sa Dios ko.

    Magdadasal tapos maningarilyo dahil nasa ICU ang mahal sa buhay? Pakikinggan ka kaya ng Dios nan? Nakuha mo pang magdasal tapos maninigarilyo?

  5. #305

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Again we are talking about Doctrine, nga dapat Absolute.

    Dili ka makabuot if unsay buhaton sa membro sa simbahan Pero ang simbahan dapat musulti nga Kana imu Gibuhat Sayop na basi sa atung doctrina dili kay 'Kung Asa ka Masaya, supurtahan taka' - dili ni maoy tarung buhaton sa isa ka GIYA.

    sama sa atung Ginikanan nga maoy atung GIYA nga naay absolute nga balaod, pwedi ra mubuhat unsa atu buhaton pero atung ginikanan mu buyag jud natu if makasala or makalapas ta sa balaod. tarung ba gud nang Ginikanan nga if mu ingun ang anak 'Ma, nag Drugs ko nya nangawat ko', nya mu mutabag ang inahan nga 'Aws, HAPPY man kaha ka ana anak, Suportahan taka.'
    Bro, sa Roman Catholic we also have absolute doctrines. We have the 10 commandments and the commandment of Jesus. All of these are teached to our brothers and sisters. we are all urged to follow but we cannot dictate another individual to do what we want them to do since they are given the freedom of choice. Like at the time of Jesus, HE preached and evangelized, but HE did not force them to believe and follow. The Church will tell us when we already deviate from "what should be" and guide back to the right path...it's up to us to heed to the right direction

  6. #306

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Post verse 37 first LOL. Hindi mo alam sinasabi mo.
    Typo error. Should be verse Mark 14:39.. Is that all you can say?

    Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

    Parehong-pareho kasi kayo ng nasa example oh.. inuutlit ulit ang dasal kasi iniisip nila na mas pakikinggan sila ng Dios. Kung sa bagay kapatid, iba ang Dios mo sa Dios ko.
    Please look at the work "vain" .
    Does praying over and over again, heartily, a vain prayer?

    Again, answer this.
    Why did Jesus repeated His prayers, when He know His Father already knows what He is asking?

  7. #307

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Then unsa man diay nang mu kiss kiss sa rebolto, mu pahid sa panyo kay maka ayu sa sakit, unsa man diay nang prosisyon, unsa man diay nang mag luhod atubang sa kahoy, di diay na pag simba?

    murag swak man kaayu na sila ani nga basahun sa bibliya:

    26:1 "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

    DEU 4:16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman,
    Etc, etc..

    Source imung gipangita? Adtu sto ninyo church or tan aw during Sinulog.

    God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." - John 4:24
    - mau man ni katung si Solomon nagpahimug revolto sa iyang self ug katung mga israelites nga nagbinuang while naa si Moses sa Mt. Sinai.
    kung wala ka kabaw ayaw tugatuga ug assume, so kanang mga Islam diay idolatry diay na nila ang sawg kay sige man silag bow down ana. ayaw patakpataka dong kung wa kay nahibal-an, ayawg patuyang sa imong gibati!

  8. #308

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    Catholic Bashing na pod ni?

    worshiping statues? representation ra man sigoro na ang mga statues. kabalo pod sigor ang mga tao oi nga bato ra na,its the deity nga gi represent ana ang ilang gitohoan.

    repetitive prayers? morag di pod ni sila(mga dili katoliko) mo bohat og repetitive prayers. kanang mga bored again sige man gani na sila og balik balik og ampo about pagpasalamat sa ilang pagkaon.

    asa man sa bible diay nga di puede ng repetitive prayers?
    sige silag pangutana para kunuhay mudoubt ta sa atong relihiyon, mao diay nakabantay ko nga taga tuig nianam tag kadaghan mamrosesyon, nga bisag nag-uwan ang mga taw nipadayun jud. Nanggamay na diay ta run? karun pako? lol

  9. #309

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Ok, but we are not talking about praises. We are talking about repetitive PRAYING. Iba ang panalangin sa papuri.
    - If you don't want to pray the rosary then don't pray. No one is forcing you to pray. Prayer and worship is a part of every religion, kung di ka gusto ana then ayaw.

  10. #310

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    sige silag pangutana para kunuhay mudoubt ta sa atong relihiyon, mao diay nakabantay ko nga taga tuig nianam tag kadaghan mamrosesyon, nga bisag nag-uwan ang mga taw nipadayun jud. Nanggamay na diay ta run? karun pako? lol
    Sis, malic_2 is practicing Islam.
    And I admired his open mindedness on religious faith, esp in Catholicism.

    Dili pareha sa uban ba, perting mangbato, murag membro sa blood ug crips..

    Ang problema man gud, they never quote the Cathecism of the Catholic Church sa ilang mga pangutana. Instead, kana ra ilang na-dunggan sa ilang pastor mao ilang i-bash diri.

    The result, puro misconceptions sa Catholic doctrine.

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