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  1. #281

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion


    naka nindot sa catholico kai walai pugsanay
    kabubut on sa mga followers ang ila gi buhat
    ilahang kinabuhi.. kung saan sila masaya.. ato a nalang suporta an

  2. #282

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    Ok, Good! at least you accept that we can praise over and over again without ceasing.

    Therefore, I can say like this: (praising)
    Our Father in heaven, Holy be Your name!
    You kingdom come, Your will be done!
    On earth as it is in Heaven! (10x)




    Again, why did Jesus repeated His prayers?
    And why did he even prayed? When He knew His Father already knows what He is going to ask?

    Ngano man diay? If you pray, once ra?
    If someone is sick, ka-usa ra ka mangadye? kay kibaw na ang Ginoo ana?
    If you are feeling down, or having a big problem, ka-usa ra ka mangadye?
    jesus said:
    9.)"Pray, then, in this way: 'Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Matthew 6:9

    Sa bisaya pa:

    6:9 ¶ Busa pag-ampo kamo sa ingon niini nga paagi: Amahan namo nga anaa sa langit, pagabalaanon unta ang imong ngalan.

    - wa mu ingun mao ni balik balika, ang pasabot sa ing ani nga paagi, meaning mao ni pattern. wa ni ingun nga i memorise nga balik balika ika 10.

    Basta naay Chance mag conflict ang isa ka Doctrina, di na sakto.

  3. #283

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    catholics don't commit idolatry,
    giteach nana sa highschool nga it's not the statues we worship but it's just a representation.

  4. #284

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    jesus said:
    9.)"Pray, then, in this way: 'Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Matthew 6:9

    Sa bisaya pa:

    6:9 ¶ Busa pag-ampo kamo sa ingon niini nga paagi: Amahan namo nga anaa sa langit, pagabalaanon unta ang imong ngalan.

    - wa mu ingun mao ni balik balika, ang pasabot sa ing ani nga paagi, meaning mao ni pattern. wa ni ingun nga i memorise nga balik balika ika 10.
    Mao, kay wala man na gihimo ug kanta. (di ba gi-balik2x man ta ug kanta ana?)

    If you are not aware, there are many levels of prayers.
    Vocal Prayer - Mao neh common ninyo makit-an kay, obvious makita man jud. In this way, the group can pray in unison. It's like reading the Psalm altogether.
    What is wrong with saying "Hosanna to the Highest!" heartilty?
    What is wrong with saying the "Our Father" heartily?

    Even early Christians are practicing Vocal prayer, and you can read it in the early manuscripts (Didache).

    Meditative Prayer - Prayers that are done in silence. Contemplating, and talk to God (deeper form of prayer)..

    And there are more.

    I guess protestants are just looking at the vocal form of prayer.
    Catholics also pray meditatively..
    I think it would be better if you read the Cathecism of the Catholic Church instead of getting it from other sources.

    Basta naay Chance mag conflict ang isa ka Doctrina, di na sakto.
    Mao jud.. Samot pa kanang Sola Scriptura, perti jud ka-conflict ana..

  5. #285

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by yiennahs View Post
    catholics don't commit idolatry,
    giteach nana sa highschool nga it's not the statues we worship but it's just a representation.
    But Not all Catholics knows that, some if Not most worship idols, kana cge kiss kiss, nya pahid sa Imahin, etc. Jesus Did Not teach your so called representation because of that reason and because he know naay mahitabo nga ing ana.

  6. #286

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    naka nindot sa catholico kai walai pugsanay
    kabubut on sa mga followers ang ila gi buhat
    ilahang kinabuhi.. kung saan sila masaya.. ato a nalang suporta an
    Whats the use of Religion if ang mga membro pabuot ra unsay ila buhaton. Religion should be a guide para sakto ang pagsunod sa Ginoo. what if wala sa Bibliya or sa tradition sa church, ok ra diay as long as happy sila?

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    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Whats the use of Religion if ang mga membro pabuot ra unsay ila buhaton. Religion should be a guide para sakto ang pagsunod sa Ginoo. what if wala sa Bibliya or sa tradition sa church, ok ra diay as long as happy sila?
    sa inyoha diay religion bai? pugsanay jud diay nga dapat "mao ni", "mao na" ang buhaton sa usa ka tawo?

  8. #288

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    sa inyoha diay religion bai? pugsanay jud diay nga dapat "mao ni", "mao na" ang buhaton sa usa ka tawo?
    Were talking about doctrines here, so ang isa ka religion naa Jud fixed and absolute doctrina gi sunod. Gods law is absolute either you are wrong or correct OR either you follow it or Not. Sa balaod sa Ginoo di mahimung sakto ang isa sayop kay tungod maoy gibuhat sa tanan. And YES we have fixed/absolute Doctrine nga ginasunod. Kamu diay? Depende unsay Feeling sa mga nagsunod?

    So if naay membro mu ingun Father naka commit ko adultery, sakto na or Dili? So mu ana ang Pari 'Aws, HAPPY man kaha ka sa imu gibuhat so soportahan taka' - mao guro ni pasabot nimu?

  9. #289

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Were talking about doctrines here, so ang isa ka religion naa Jud fixed and absolute doctrina gi sunod. Gods law is absolute either you are wrong or correct OR either you follow it or Not. Sa balaod sa Ginoo di mahimung sakto ang isa sayop kay tungod maoy gibuhat sa tanan. And YES we have fixed/absolute Doctrine nga ginasunod. Kamu diay? Depende unsay Feeling sa mga nagsunod?

    So if naay membro mu ingun Father naka commit ko adultery, sakto na or Dili? So mu ana ang Pari 'Aws, HAPPY man kaha ka sa imu gibuhat so soportahan taka' - mao guro ni pasabot nimu?

    sakto kaayo ka sa imong first paragraph bai. pero sa imong gi ingon nga dapat ang religion mahimung "guide" kana, ang religion dapat maoy mo giya sa mga katawhan pero dili man ta maka buot nila kung mo simang sila diba?

    ikaw maka buot ka sa imong kauban sa imong religion kung mo simang siya?

  10. #290

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    sa inyoha diay religion bai? pugsanay jud diay nga dapat "mao ni", "mao na" ang buhaton sa usa ka tawo?
    Naay ubang religion, nga bisan dagko na kaayo ka ug sala, "SAVED" man kuno gihapon.

    Naa sad ubang religion, basta mo-hawa ka sa ilang grupo, adto na ka sa imperno puniton..

    kanindot..

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