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  1. #221

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    So Is there any difference or contradictions between your Holy traditions and the Bible?
    There are many. But they are there are similarities in many other passages in the bible. Please provide an example if you find some. Thanks.

  2. #222

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    Yah ang ginoo ang gsimba and dili ang pari diba?

    so why the hell should we go to masses if we can worship directly to this "god" anywhere?
    or why does it have to be "officially" a mass officiated by this pari
    and why not count praying inside a church bisan wala'y mass or misa or pari as valid or
    good as a mass itself?
    The Mass is an organized celebration were people gathered to pray together and worship God together. Worshipping God anywhere and praying inside the church is more of an individualistic act rather than a communal act. The Mass is there to gather people to pray and worship God together.

  3. #223

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    Question:
    when they say in attending mass you should look your best for HIM
    what does that mean? wear clothes that make you feel good?

    Are they referring to a certain dress code like pants and shoes and collared shirt, dresses covering up to the neck and skirts 2-3 inches bellow the knees to ladies

    Are they referring to clothes we feel comfortable with hence we feel great with ourselves
    or clothing this "church" prescribes?
    Who the "they" you are referring to? It is not in the Catholic dogma. You can attend mass even with wearing shorts, slippers, and white sleeveless undershirt. However, such attire will disturb other people attending the mass. See girls wearing mini-skirts when attending the mass. Girls and boys (especially boys) will get distracted and tend to look at those girls. It is in the initiative of the person to attend the Mass and to let other people attending the Mass to be undisturbed by one.

  4. #224

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by cliff_drew View Post
    Faith or Religion?
    Both. Faith is needed in religion. Religion without faith is also useless.

  5. #225

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by wenlove24 View Post
    No offense to anyone especially to you TS but I don't think this is the right medium for these kinds of questions. This will breed more conflict and confusion instead of promoting clarity and spiritual growth. I don't know what kind of motive you have for doing such. With all due respect to each and everyone's faith, I believe it's always wise to go straight to the source. I for one as a Catholic wouldn't simply be content with faith alone. It's not bec. I want everything to be rational and logical but bec. I need to have a basis for my religious practices, etc. Learning and studying the fountain of my religion would be cathartic for me as well as for my soul. To each his own, right? That's why we need more apologetics nowadays 'coz they're more concerned with proving the truth on Christianity and thereby returning more lost sheep to the flock. Peace....
    At least non-Catholics are informed on why there is such a practice done by the Catholics which are not done by other religions. At least for Catholics that they will be refreshed on what is exactly true on their religion. However, debate is inevitable.

  6. #226

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by zhrike View Post
    Unsay purpose ani? nahimo naman ni nga thread for attacking catholics... unsay gusto ninyo? mamalhin mi? hahahaha...
    That makes the Catholics to be more stronger with their faith. Whatever our religion, we have something in common--that is love to one another.

  7. #227

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by JcBoY View Post
    Salamat brod! karon akong sunod pangutana kanang gisinggit ni Jesus nga mga pulong:

    "ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI? which is, being interpreted, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Mark 15:34).

    ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI? that is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me'? (Matthew 27:46).

    Kinsa man gyud diay ang Ginoo nga gitawag ni Jesus ini kay klaro man gyud nga naa siyay gitawag? Di ba husayonon pa ni kay duna man gyud relihiyon nga ang ilang Ginoo sama ug pangalan sa gitawag ni Jesus?
    Bible scholars have proven that the language used by the time of Jesus was Aramaic with an additional Greek and Hebrew. (Just like Cebuano, with Tagalog, and english in our case). "ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI" is said in Aramaic language but with similarities in Greek.

    Eli, Eli or Eloi, Eloi is found in Greek ηλί, ηλί which literally means, God, God


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    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by jangska View Post
    pwede mangutana anang price rate sa misa sa pari naay mahal lagi kaayo.. unsa man nakamahal ana? ilang oras? naglibog jud ko ana naa mga special rate hasta pag ampo. sharo naman wa mo nakapangutana ana.
    Kasagaran aning mga mahal kay kanang mga rate sa kasal, etc. Actually, kung walay corruption sa mga taw sa church office, ang kaning bayad kay gamiton ni sa projects sa simbahan, sa pag-kaon sa mga taw sa simbahan, sa pag-maintain sa simbahan, ug sa pag-ayo sa mga guba. If naa ka sa city, mas mahal jud ang rate. If naa ka sa provice, mas barato ang rate. This happens because of population nga mu-attend sa simbahan. Kung daghag taw, dili man sad pwd nga ang simbahan kay murag kapilya, so there should be renovation. Things like that. Time could also be a factor of high rates.

    Sa tinood lng, dili na para sa mga lingaw2x sa mga pari, though they need a little of that. A similar question would be "nganung nindot mag sakyanan ang pari?". It is because, it would take time to walk and as a priest, he should be a priority of the people during the mass.

    I am not really sure kung magpabayad ang mga pari kung magpa-ampo. Wala pa ko kadungog ana. In that case, the money goes to their personal needs. Mahal na baya ang palitonon ron so dapat mahal sad jud ang rate--something like that.

  9. #229

    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by darkdevil View Post
    Puede ba or dili ang kasal outside church?
    Pwede man.

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    Default Re: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    I found a good source too.

    Catechism of Christian Doctrine

    Authorities:
    No. 3 In conformity with the Decrees of the Plenary Council and the Code of 1918.
    Nhili Obstat: A.G. Casas, Censor Librorum
    Imprematur: Rufino J. Santos, D.D., Archbishop of Manila, De La Salle College,
    Brothers of the Christian Schools, Manila Philippines 1955


    Page 86
    "10. What is a saint?
    A saint in the strict sense of the word is one who is in heaven, and has been presented by the Church for the public worship of the faithful


    Page 87
    "13. Is the worship of the saints confined to their persons?
    No; it extends also to their relics and images "


    "14. What do we call Relics?
    We call relics:
    1. The remains of the body of a saint who has been canonized or beatified by the church;
    2. The objects which have belonged to the saints, or which have touched their bodies: such as linen, coffins, etc."


    15. Ought we to worship holy images?
    We should have, particularly in our churches, images of Our Lord, as also of the Blessed Virgin and the saints.."


    If you are not following the Catechism then you ain't Catholic.

    Thanks for the immediate reply. See below on what the Catholics Catechism of Christian Doctrine is (from wiki):

    Catechism of Christian Doctrine (or "Penny Catechism")

    A question and answer format Catechism that was the standard catechetical text in Great Britain in the twentieth century. Popularly calledPenny Catechism as the original version only cost one penny. Various editions of the Penny Catechism were issued through the century and changes were made to the text.


    The Catechism of Christian Doctrine you have stated is an old version as it is released in the 1950s - 1960s (I'm not sure of the year). I have not seen such an old version of such that contains the worship of saints. I would appreciate if you will provide here some links about that doctrine that contains worship to saints, or maybe other catholic doctrines that contain worship to saints. If you mind, here is the newer version of the penny catechism: Catechism of Christian Doctrine Thank you.

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