Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

[redhorse1L]

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^^ I don't know if "prove" is the right word to say.
Beliefs can never be proven.

That is why we have our Faith and Reason.

Samok kaayo nang sige pangutana kung "naa ba'y mabasa sa bibliya nga... etc.. etc.."
Where in they consider bible verses as "proof" of the teachings/truth.

As if Catholic Teachings are solely dependent on what is written in the bible (sola scriptura).

I think mao jud na ang wala masabti sa mga dili katoliko, or mga katolo liko.

[SioDenz]

^^ I don't know if "prove" is the right word to say.
Beliefs can never be proven.

That is why we have our Faith and Reason.

Samok kaayo nang sige pangutana kung "naa ba'y mabasa sa bibliya nga... etc.. etc.."
Where in they consider bible verses as "proof" of the teachings/truth.

As if Catholic Teachings are solely dependent on what is written in the bible (sola scriptura).

I think mao jud na ang wala masabti sa mga dili katoliko, or mga katolo liko.

okay, maybe the word should be Strengthen?

So can i ask why man Catholics are Not Solely dependent on the Bible alone? what are the Other Source man diay?

[redhorse1L]

okay, maybe the word should be Strengthen?

So can i ask why man Catholics are Not Solely dependent on the Bible alone? what are the Other Source man diay?

Apostolic teachings that were not included or explicitly written in the Bible.
These were written by the early disciples and Church Fathers.

Examples: Didache, Eusibius, Barnabas, etc..

You see, early Christian don't have this bible like what we have now.
And the bible was not distributed until the invention of the printing press.

I suggest you take a good research on how the bible came to be, and the Early Christian Church..

[SioDenz]

Apostolic teachings that were not included or explicitly written in the Bible.
These were written by the early disciples and Church Fathers.

Examples: Didache, Eusibius, Barnabas, etc..

You see, early Christian don't have this bible like what we have now.
And the bible was not distributed until the invention of the printing press.

I suggest you take a good research on how the bible came to be, and the Early Christian Church..

So whats written in the Bible is Not enough?

Is there any book for that? or its just teachings that was passed down from older generations? and Does every catholic church teach that teachings to all its followers?

[redhorse1L]

So whats written in the Bible is Not enough?

Is there any book for that? or its just teachings that was passed down from older generations? and Does every catholic church teach that teachings to all its followers?

Lahi man gud inyong perspective gud.
Inyo naman gi-assume nga naa na Bible and mao na ang source of truth sa religion.

During the early century, wala pa nang Bible.

Naay mag-sulat ug mga scriptures. Example, ang evangelists, nagsulat sila ug Gospels. Take note it doesn't mean nga The Gospel of Matthew was solely written by Matthew. It could have been written by someone else, nga iya ra sad nadunggan kang Mattew. There was even a Gospel of Peter (wala ma-include sa Bible)

Si Paul, James, nag-sulat ug epistles.. etc, etc, etc..

Katag pa kaayo neh nga mga letters kay ang uban naa sa Corinth, Galatia, Rome, then naay daghan copies(manually copied).

When the Church compiled those writtings..
Checked if it contained errors/discrepancies..
Lots of Council have went through before na-declare na dayon ang official books included in the Bible.

If you think of it, Church have already their Dogma or teaching prior to bible. And they used it to validate if the scriptures contained errors or not.

Apostolic teachings and the Bible should go hand in hand.

[SioDenz]

Lahi man gud inyong perspective gud.
Inyo naman gi-assume nga naa na Bible and mao na ang source of truth sa religion.

During the early century, wala pa nang Bible.

Naay mag-sulat ug mga scriptures. Example, ang evangelists, nagsulat sila ug Gospels. Take note it doesn't mean nga The Gospel of Matthew was solely written by Matthew. It could have been written by someone else, nga iya ra sad nadunggan kang Mattew. There was even a Gospel of Peter (wala ma-include sa Bible)

Si Paul, James, nag-sulat ug epistles.. etc, etc, etc..

Katag pa kaayo neh nga mga letters kay ang uban naa sa Corinth, Galatia, Rome, then naay daghan copies(manually copied).

When the Church compiled those writtings..
Checked if it contained errors/discrepancies..
Lots of Council have went through before na-declare na dayon ang official books included in the Bible.

If you think of it, Church have already their Dogma or teaching prior to bible. And they used it to validate if the scriptures contained errors or not.

Apostolic teachings and the Bible should go hand in hand.

So for the Catholic church, the Dogma of the church is above the teachings in the Bible? since naa namay teachings daan ang church before ang Bible na compile?

[yiennahs]

for me lang ha, as a christian, the bible is a holy book to be used as a source of parables and a reflection book for what Jesus did to us. The Church is the people and we are united to follow God's commandments and not base our life solely on the bible. Simple raman ang principle, that's love. Love is God. God is love. It's up to us how to live our life. We are given the freedom to choose from right and wrong. It's up to us to live with the consequences. Wa juy namugus ninyo kinsa inyong tuhuan. Nara na ninyo kay inig misa di jud muingun ang pari na ayaw mug tuo anang ubang relihiyon, kung mutuo mo palayason tamo or prisuhun tamo kung mubalhin mug laing relihiyon.

[SioDenz]

for me lang ha, as a christian, the bible is a holy book to be used as a source of parables and a reflection book for what Jesus did to us. The Church is the people and we are united to follow God's commandments and not base our life solely on the bible. Simple raman ang principle, that's love. Love is God. God is love. It's up to us how to live our life. We are given the freedom to choose from right and wrong. It's up to us to live with the consequences. Wa juy namugus ninyo kinsa inyong tuhuan. Nara na ninyo kay inig misa di jud muingun ang pari na ayaw mug tuo anang ubang relihiyon, kung mutuo mo palayason tamo or prisuhun tamo kung mubalhin mug laing relihiyon.

"The Church is the people and we are united to follow God's commandments and not base our life solely on the bible" - So where did you get or know God's Commandments if its Not solely from the Bible?

"Nara na ninyo kay inig misa di jud muingun ang pari na ayaw mug tuo anang ubang relihiyon, kung mutuo mo palayason tamo or prisuhun tamo kung mubalhin mug laing relihiyon." - But I heard a priest saying Kinsa tong ni pabor sa RH bill ayaw namu ug Simba?

[yiennahs]

"The Church is the people and we are united to follow God's commandments and not base our life solely on the bible" - So where did you get or know God's Commandments if its Not solely from the Bible?

"Nara na ninyo kay inig misa di jud muingun ang pari na ayaw mug tuo anang ubang relihiyon, kung mutuo mo palayason tamo or prisuhun tamo kung mubalhin mug laing relihiyon." - But I heard a priest saying Kinsa tong ni pabor sa RH bill ayaw namu ug Simba?

hala oi kagamay nimug utok. Kabaw man ka unsay answer ana, ilarun pajud ko oi. Magsunud sunud man ka sa akong technique nuun. Tsk tsk tsk

[3nZ0y]

First of all, ato unta i-check ang thread title: Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion. So you may ask (even if you do not belong to it inasmuch as your question is ONLY about Catholic Church) or answer (again ONLY about Catholic Church).

My first question is:
1. What is the Catholic Church stand on homosexuality?

I also need clarifications on little discrepancies on bible:

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God of Jesus: "God is love." (1 John 4:16)

God of Moses: "Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man" (Num. 31:17)
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God of Jesus: "Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me." (Mark 9:37)

God of Moses: "Put to death men and women, children and infants" (1 Sam. 15:2-3)
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God of Jesus: "Love does no harm to its neighbor" (Rom. 13:10)

God of Moses: "He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded." (Josh. 10:40)
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God of Jesus: "[The devil] was a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:44)

God of Moses: "Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children" (Ezek. 9:6)
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God of Jesus: "Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." (1 Peter 5:8 )

God of Moses: "Like a lion I will devour them." (Hosea 13:8 )
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God of Jesus: "Anyone who does not love his brother [is of the devil]." (1 John 3:10)

God of Moses: "Go back and forth killing your brother and friend and neighbor" (Exod. 32:27)

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God of Jesus: "[The devil] is a liar and the father of lies." (John 8:44)

God of Moses: "Put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours." (1 Kings 22:23)
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God of Jesus: "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy." (John 10:10)

God of Moses: "Pursue, kill and completely destroy them." (Jer. 50:21)
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God of Jesus: "He who does what is sinful is of the devil" (1 John 3:8 )

God of Moses: "Do not leave alive anything that breathes" (Deut. 20:16)
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God of Jesus: "God so loved the world.." (John 3:16)

God of Moses: "I will wipe humankind ..from the face of the Earth." (Gen. 6:7)
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God of Jesus: "Love your enemies" (Luke 6:27-28 )

God of Moses: "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them." (Num. 25:16-17)

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God of Jesus: "For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone" (James 1:13)

God of Moses: "[He] tempted Abraham" (Gen. 22:1)
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