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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    Kim Jong Ill's advice to Iran:

    Don’t trust the West, get a nuke if you can..and keep it handy or else you will be the next Gadaffi.. lolz
    Question: When China finally decides to forcibly take possession of the Spratlys, will you be asking No. Korea, Iran or any other Middle Eastern country to help defend you? No... You will without hesitation look to the West to protect your interests there. Try to remember that, for the day will soon be here...

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    Saif al-Arab Gadhafi the son of the embattled Libyan dictator has been killed in an airstrike in Tripoli a few hours ago.

    One of Gadhafi's sons killed in NATO airstrike, Libyan official says - CNN.com

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    gadhafi's son and 3 grandchildren died in the recent strike..

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    So, what is new with their killing spree?

    excerpt from a CNN news; One of Gadhafi's sons killed in NATO airstrike, Libyan official says - CNN.com

    Earlier this week, U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz acknowledged that "our own laws" would affect any decision to try to assassinate Moammar Gadhafi directly.

    "I don't believe that any credible group or individual sees the solution to the Libyan problem without the removal of Moammar Gadhafi, one way or the other," he said. "But our job and our goal is to get a political solution, but through the means that we are allowed to by our own laws."

    Oh I thought they are only there to protect the civilians and implement the no fly zone and let the rebels do their job!

    So, this is another clear manifestation of US hegemonic intervention which will brings no good to their image as a self-proclaimed World Police. It only shows they are like a beast ready and willing to devour anybody who will go against their way no matter how drastic it would be as long as they will achieve their hegemonic goal. But at the end these wars that they are in will further drain their already ruined economy and bring their empire to natural end.

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    Gadhafi's command and control center operates within the Tripoli compound. He is using human shields by situating military targets in an area where his family and his military commanders (and their technology) are located. Gadhafi's family members being killed is the inevitable result of not evacuating non-combatants from a known target.

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    Default Re: MERGED: Libyan Crisis and the UN/NATO Military Response

    the 're-radicalization' of gadhafi, if i would have a word for it.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    A double standard of the West obviously all in the name of oil. I don't see any intervention in Yemen, in Syria, in Iran, or even North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trollaccount View Post
    A double standard of the West obviously all in the name of oil. I don't see any intervention in Yemen, in Syria, in Iran, or even North Korea.
    Iran has the third largest oil reserves in the world so if oil is what the West was after Iran would be a far more attractive target than Libya. This conflict is all about a mentally unbalanced dictator turning his guns against his own people once they rose up against him. The West had nothing to do with the wave of protests sweeping the region, but Gadhafi's brutality (far worse than the other places you mentioned) in response to street protests forced the West to choose sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptoid View Post
    Iran has the third largest oil reserves in the world so if oil is what the West was after Iran would be a far more attractive target than Libya. This conflict is all about a mentally unbalanced dictator turning his guns against his own people once they rose up against him. The West had nothing to do with the wave of protests sweeping the region, but Gadhafi's brutality (far worse than the other places you mentioned) in response to street protests forced the West to choose sides.
    Because they can't. Iran is the Shia capital of the world and doing so would only make things worse in Iraq. Iran is bigger and more capable than Libya.

    Syria Death Toll Said to Top 550 Since Demonstrations Began - Businessweek

    Where is the international intervention in Syria?

    How about in North Korea? Millions have died in recent famines and in state prisons. Why no intervention there?

    How about in Somalia?

    Or in Yemen? Is a hundred lives lost well below the western standard?

    BBC News - Yemen: Death toll reaches 100 in protest clashes

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    The UN has been involved in Somalia.

    A conflict with North Korea would result in Seoul being decimated that's why action has been limited to sanctions.

    Iran may still be attacked if they pursue nuclear weapons.

    Syrian leadership has been criticized by the US. If they continue on their current path then they too could see themselves toppled with the help of NATO should the UN deem force necessary. Remember the US has pledged to abide by UN mandates which means getting an international consensus. This isn't all about the West although Western countries generally bear the burden of these decisions in terms of cost and manpower.

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