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    Default Re: San Miguel goes into the telecom business (Liberty Telecoms Holdings, Inc.)


    paubsanay ug presyo...para dghan malipay..

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    Default Re: San Miguel goes into the telecom business (Liberty Telecoms Holdings, Inc.)

    guapo ni promo sila palit ka ug beer ang load naa sa sulod sa botelya

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    Quote Originally Posted by gareb View Post
    competition's good. regulation is better.

    competition is quite useless when sooner or later one party is bound to gobble up another (smart bought piltel and red mobile, now Sun, globe bought TM/Islacom).

    competition's main aim has always been to eliminate its competitors; the supposed benefits to the consumers are mere by-products of this intent. once it has achieved a position, like the previous Smart-Globe rivalry suggests, it can dictate the market prices, level of service and supply. whatever threatens this level of control should be eliminated or assimilated, hence the buy-out of Sun by Smart.

    will Liberty Telecoms be successful in staying in the business for an extended amount of time? all that i wonder is who's going to buy who a few years from now.
    You have a point and i agree.
    But at the end of the day, business is business.
    Strategies have to be in placed.
    Whether kill the competitor or end up merging, the bottomline is still profits.
    That's every business's reason for existence.

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    Default Re: San Miguel goes into the telecom business (Liberty Telecoms Holdings, Inc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by joeaddict View Post
    You have a point and i agree.
    But at the end of the day, business is business.
    Strategies have to be in placed.
    Whether kill the competitor or end up merging, the bottomline is still profits.
    That's every business's reason for existence.
    this is precisely the reason why i think a better regulation of the industry should be in place, instead of just fielding out another 'competitor' who becomes chicken-feed in the long run, fortifying the position of existing companies. because in the long run, when companies are have a firm hold of the market, as globe and smart have now, it becomes harder for minor and even major players to establish their positions against them, making 'competition' largely impossible.

    a better regulation would dictate the do's and don't's of the telecom industry (think globe's cap on data volumes, price on text messages/calls, frequency bandwidth domination though buy-outs of other telecoms, etc.) which would ensure that the customers would be protected from unfair practices.

    a well though-of regulation would also allow a fair battleground from which other players can come in and compete, creating a win-win situation for consumers.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Default Re: San Miguel goes into the telecom business (Liberty Telecoms Holdings, Inc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by rare_phoenix View Post
    guys I don't know why but I have this weird feeling that M. Pangilinan's into something,,he just bought Meralco, Tv5 and now Sun Cellular..heard that a wealthy foreign family is financing his every move,,,i could be wrong though,,we'll see if this San Miguel's Liberty will cut the string,, go for healthy competition!!,,
    It's Mr. Salim of Salim Group of Indonesia. He first took in MVP to run his investment arm First Pacific Company, Ltd. in HongKong....the Philippine company is Metro Pacific who finance Smart Communication, Inc. during its infancy. First Pacific is majority-owned by Indonesia's powerful Salim Group. First Pacific's portfolio includes 13 companies then, operating in 40 countries, with 45,000 employees. First Pacific's vast real estate holdings include, through Metro Pacific, the huge Fort Bonifacio Development Corporation project in metro Manila, Philippines. They are into everything including Telecommunications, Marketing, Real States, Roads, etc...Mr. Salim initially made a fortune on his instant noodles in Indonesia and took off from there...

    MVP is very generous himself....pakpakan ra na coupled with "Bonus, Bonus, Bonus..." during xmas party and he easily gives in with additional 2 months salary bonus...

    On the other hand, San Miguel Corp's Telecommunications is a joint-venture with also a very rich foreign group particularly with Qatar Telecom (Q-Tel)...while everyone is focusing to improve their 3G Network technology, SMC hopefully launch the newest Long Term Evolution (LTE) mobile technology that will be marketed as 4G.

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    Default Re: San Miguel goes into the telecom business (Liberty Telecoms Holdings, Inc.)

    tatlo na ang hawak ng san miguel:
    liberty telecoms
    BellTel
    Eastern Telecoms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    It's Mr. Salim of Salim Group of Indonesia. He first took in MVP to run his investment arm First Pacific Company, Ltd. in HongKong....the Philippine company is Metro Pacific who finance Smart Communication, Inc. during its infancy. First Pacific is majority-owned by Indonesia's powerful Salim Group. First Pacific's portfolio includes 13 companies then, operating in 40 countries, with 45,000 employees. First Pacific's vast real estate holdings include, through Metro Pacific, the huge Fort Bonifacio Development Corporation project in metro Manila, Philippines. They are into everything including Telecommunications, Marketing, Real States, Roads, etc...Mr. Salim initially made a fortune on his instant noodles in Indonesia and took off from there...

    the name's familiar,,can't remember the article but i think you got it right,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by gareb View Post
    this is precisely the reason why i think a better regulation of the industry should be in place, instead of just fielding out another 'competitor' who becomes chicken-feed in the long run, fortifying the position of existing companies. because in the long run, when companies are have a firm hold of the market, as globe and smart have now, it becomes harder for minor and even major players to establish their positions against them, making 'competition' largely impossible.

    a better regulation would dictate the do's and don't's of the telecom industry (think globe's cap on data volumes, price on text messages/calls, frequency bandwidth domination though buy-outs of other telecoms, etc.) which would ensure that the customers would be protected from unfair practices.

    a well though-of regulation would also allow a fair battleground from which other players can come in and compete, creating a win-win situation for consumers.
    I agree also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gareb View Post
    this is precisely the reason why i think a better regulation of the industry should be in place, instead of just fielding out another 'competitor' who becomes chicken-feed in the long run, fortifying the position of existing companies. because in the long run, when companies are have a firm hold of the market, as globe and smart have now, it becomes harder for minor and even major players to establish their positions against them, making 'competition' largely impossible.

    a better regulation would dictate the do's and don't's of the telecom industry (think globe's cap on data volumes, price on text messages/calls, frequency bandwidth domination though buy-outs of other telecoms, etc.) which would ensure that the customers would be protected from unfair practices.

    a well though-of regulation would also allow a fair battleground from which other players can come in and compete, creating a win-win situation for consumers.
    I agree with your point bro.

    But when exactly should regulation come in? During the infancy stage of a company or during the time they are harvesting the fruits of their labor? Dont get me wrong, i also want low prices and better service. My point is, they are in business and the main reason why they ventured into business is they want to earn profits. Monopoly or duopoly perse is not bad. We have to acknowledgethe fact that they are good with what they have done. I can still remember those days wherein celfone is a commodity exclusive for the rich. But now, even the lowest market has it. Why? Because they managed to identify the right strategy for it.

    I dont really think that regulation is the key. At the end of the day, if we the consumers are getting the appropriate service from them paired with a reasonable cost, i dont see any reason for regulation.

    If san miguel's entry to the market will push them to provide good service, then, thats totally fine.

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    This is what I've been waiting for. Since the UNLIMITED era of Sun Cellular could be threatened by being acquired by Pangilinan's PLDT. Pangilinan now controls 70% of the maturing telecommunications market leaving it's rival, the Ayala owned Globe Telecom greatly overpowered. And San Miguel is a potential "deal-breaker". If they can emulate how Sun Cellular gave Smart and Globe a run for their money with it's UNLIMITED features. Then I am putting my hopes on San Miguel.

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