conspiracy theories

[rodsky]

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mao diay ni iya graphics? kad**** lang pangita-on ko tong harddrive na ako gi-installan sa orbiter. mura dili ingon ani ang graphics year 2008.

mura man to ug graph2X lang.

magcapture ko ug screen shots. try nako post diri. pangita-on ko pa tong HDD.

if asa ka comportable modula ug simulation rods, akoy bayad.
piktyuri lang sa lagi imo set-up. ato tan-awon kung realistic ba jud.

My "home" setup is not here--it's back in Mindanao (I'm from the Iligan City-MSU, Marawi City area). I don't have an equivalent setup in Cebu.

You seem to equate realism with external control mechanism, when they are only feedback/human interface mechanisms, WRONG way to evaluate realism. What you should look for is instrumentation and ask if the level of instrumentation is realistic or not. For example, check this out:

AVSIM Commercial Aircraft Review: 767 Pilot In Command

That's a Boeing B767 addon for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004/FSX, and mao ni iyang pages sa manual...

# 767 PIC Adventure Scripts: 11 pages
# 767 PIC Panel Operation and Systems: 116 pages
# 767 PIC Normal Checklists: 21 pages
# 767 PIC Non-Normal Checklists: 41 pages
# 767 PIC FMC: 108 pages

All in all almost 300 pages long ang manual...unya you claim nga DULA ra na? Kinsa may ganahan modula nga before sa dula mag basa sa ka'g 300 page long nga manual? *Shakes head*

Why baga kaayo ang tun-anan? Kay the instrumentation of this simulation (for PC ug laptop lang ni ha, timan-i) is very accurate, for instance, the instruments and switches of this overhead panel...


95% of the operation of the real B767 switches are incorporated into the simulation. As with the main panel...


Yes, tanang switches diha dapat kabalo ka mag pindot, dili pwede pataka-taka ra, mao nga kinahanglan mag tuon sa ug Operations MANUAL(s).

N'ya sige pa mo'g sulti diri nga "...dula ra lagi nang simulator for PC kay joystick ug keyboard ug mouse ra ginagamit" when the fact is, some of my friends who are real airline pilots sometimes use equivalent simulations of other aircraft that their fly, to keep sharp, updated and keep themselves ready (nya all they need is a laptop/PC).

You keep telling me I'm "assuming" or "jump into conclusions", nga klaro kaayo kinsa'y sige'g jump into conclusions. BTW don't waste your time finding your images--some of those beautiful graphics you see above are from the 2006 version of Orbiter (2008 man kaha imong screenshots?), so wala ka'y lusot.

-RODION

[Soul Doctor]

conspiracy theory or not.
what is important is-- people raised a valid question.
somehow sooner or later...answers will surface.
im not trying to convince you anymore. bahala na mo maghunahuna.

kung sa salesman pa.
ayaw baligyai ang tawo nga walay kwarta.

walay pugsanay diri bro.

[doi]

war is a business...

[THE SKULLS]

My "home" setup is not here--it's back in Mindanao (I'm from the Iligan City-MSU, Marawi City area). I don't have an equivalent setup in Cebu.

then list the instruments you have in your set-up.

You seem to equate realism with external control mechanism, when they are only feedback/human interface mechanisms, WRONG way to evaluate realism. What you should look for is instrumentation and ask if the level of instrumentation is realistic or not.

you forgot automation Rods.

All in all almost 300 pages long ang manual...unya you claim nga DULA ra na? Kinsa may ganahan modula nga before sa dula mag basa sa ka'g 300 page long nga manual? *Shakes head*

then you flew a plane. you co-piloted a flight. "You seem to equate realism with external control mechanism."
sure ko mao jud ni naa sa imo huna-huna samtang nag-drive ka.
mao sad ni rason ngano gi-padrive ka.

Why baga kaayo ang tun-anan? Kay the instrumentation of this simulation (for PC ug laptop lang ni ha, timan-i) is very accurate, for instance, the instruments and switches of this overhead panel...


95% of the operation of the real B767 switches are incorporated into the simulation. As with the main panel...


Yes, tanang switches diha dapat kabalo ka mag pindot, dili pwede pataka-taka ra, mao nga kinahanglan mag tuon sa ug Operations MANUAL(s).

dili jud ka pataka-taka. I've been a technician for flight test equipments also rods. kana ila gamiton para calibrate sa makina.

N'ya sige pa mo'g sulti diri nga "...dula ra lagi nang simulator for PC kay joystick ug keyboard ug mouse ra ginagamit" when the fact is, some of my friends who are real airline pilots sometimes use equivalent simulations of other aircraft that their fly, to keep sharp, updated and keep themselves ready (nya all they need is a laptop/PC).

my pilot friends don't use PC simulation. they have flight simulators in their company.

You keep telling me I'm "assuming" or "jump into conclusions", nga klaro kaayo kinsa'y sige'g jump into conclusions. BTW don't waste your time finding your images--some of those beautiful graphics you see above are from the 2006 version of Orbiter (2008 man kaha imong screenshots?), so wala ka'y lusot.

-RODION

dili ko kinahanglan anang lusot2X Rods. para asa?
I told you, I'm speculating before articulating.

I will try to get screen shots from Orbiter installed 2008.
mao na ako pasabot rods.

So, asa man ta dapit mag-simulate diri Cebu? Pakit-a ko.
Ako sad i-video, naa man sad tingali flight video recorder ng Orbiter?
Ato i-try ug compara kung pareho ba jud na sa mga Modules.

[THE SKULLS]

it another conspiracy theory bro.
it is believed that eventually, china will wage war with the phil and spratlys island will be the triggering conflict.
at this stage of this "art of war", dili pa time para atakehon ta.
hinay hinayan osa ta og piang sa china.

economics--
maong bahaan ta nila og barato nga products para madaut atong local businesses and eventually maguba atong economiya..

drugs--
himoon osa nilang adik atong mga kalalakihan para gamay na lang anga makadepensa sa nasod.
mao bitawng lagot kaayo sila nganung nibalik sa ilaha ang mga drugs nga para ra man unta to sa pilipinas.

education---
maong daghan nang mga activista,
bisan wala na gyud untay angayng i-protesta.
daan nga issue against sa U.S. aron mawala ang suporta sa U.S.
aron sayon na dayon kaayo ta sakopon nila.


industries---
mao nang gi-infiltrate na sa mga activista ug rebelde and mga labor union
para madown tanang major industrial plants and corporations.

government---
the campaign for government distrust,
para kung sila nay mopuli, dili na kaayo ta mopalag kay isaad nila nga mas kasaligan ang ilang pamaagi sa panggobyerno.

part of the "Art of War".

The Greed for Power, mao jud ni hinungdan aning mga kwinanggol nila. Mura ra ba jud ug tinuod kung gamitan na sa Media power.

Ang mga motulon dretso sa impormasyon maoy luoy kaayo ani.

[rodsky]

then list the instruments you have in your set-up.

If you ask me to list the instruments I have in my setup, then I'd simply list all the instruments you see on the computer screen. Unsa man diay nga "instruments" imong buot ipasabot? Mga actual controls? Like I said, dili kinahanglan nga mamahalong controllers or external controls like this:





...to have an accurate simulation--the accuracy is in the software, not the hardware. Kanang mga MCP-modules nga pictured above, naa ra man na sa computer screen, so dili dyud kinahanglan nga naa pa na nga peripheral--if you can do in on-screen on a cheaper budget, why spend hundreds of dollars on something that does the same thing?

you forgot automation Rods.

Instrumentation also pertains to automation, because items such as the FMC/MCP/autopilot are tools of automation, so they are in fact under instrumentation.

then you flew a plane. you co-piloted a flight. "You seem to equate realism with external control mechanism."
sure ko mao jud ni naa sa imo huna-huna samtang nag-drive ka.
mao sad ni rason ngano gi-padrive ka.

Ing ani man imong argumento bai "Ang usa ka tawo dapat makagunit sa ug tinood nga flight yoke, ug mag pislit ug tinuod nga buttons sa instrument panel, para makapalupad ug tinuod nga eroplano--kung iyang experience lang kay on-screen nga instrumentation, ug ang pamaagi sa pag pislit nya sa instruments kay mouse ra ug keyboard, nya ang iyang yoke kay joystick lang, na dili na siya pwede kapalupad ug tinood nga eroplano." Pero my experience DEFEATS your argument--even though keyboard, mouse, ug joystick, ug computer screen lang akong gigamit for the past 27 years, the fact that current PC software can simulate a good degree of fidelity in instrumentation and physics in a PC/Mac based simulation, it allowed me to fly a REAL airplane.

my pilot friends don't use PC simulation. they have flight simulators in their company.

How is that statement related to the argument? My friends who are pilots also have simulators in their companies, but what I was talking about was what they do in the SPARE time, while at home--nya i-apil apil diay nimo nang dagkong simulators nila in their company HQs.

I will try to get screen shots from Orbiter installed 2008.

Don't try--DO.

So, asa man ta dapit mag-simulate diri Cebu? Pakit-a ko.
Ako sad i-video, naa man sad tingali flight video recorder ng Orbiter?
Ato i-try ug compara kung pareho ba jud na sa mga Modules.

I will first try to contact the PFSG members here in Cebu if ganahan sila'g i2i kauban mga FS newbies. If dili makaya ug i2i, then we (ikaw ug ako and anyone else interested) can just pick any internet cafe around the Lahug area nga with decent computers and mag allow ang management ug taod ug USB Hard Disk.

-RODION

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

conspiracy theory or not.
what is important is-- people raised a valid question.
somehow sooner or later...answers will surface.
im not trying to convince you anymore. bahala na mo maghunahuna.

kung sa salesman pa.
ayaw baligyai ang tawo nga walay kwarta.

walay pugsanay diri bro.

You forgot also that as much as the valid questions were raised , credible answers were also provided .

Two points for you soul doctor :

- kabalo man diay ka walay kwarta ngano ni entertain pa man ka ?
- kabalo ba ka na kung salesman ka ug sudlay kinahanglan ma kumbinsi jud nimo siya mo palit ?

[Soul Doctor]

You forgot also that as much as the valid questions were raised , credible answers were also provided .

Two points for you soul doctor :

- kabalo man diay ka walay kwarta ngano ni entertain pa man ka ?
- kabalo ba ka na kung salesman ka ug sudlay kinahanglan ma kumbinsi jud nimo siya mo palit ?

whose answers are credible?
which is better----the convenient lie or the inconvenient truth?

it seems to me that you are saying that you are the better judge of what is credible and what is not?

whose interests were being protected?
and what about the victims?
are they just collateral damage?

it would be total chaos if the public knew the real score.
that's their justification for hiding the truth.

but, without the so called conspiracy theorists,
will there ever be justice for those victims of greed?

call them paranoid

call them crazy

i call them heroes!

[Soul Doctor]

You forgot also that as much as the valid questions were raised , credible answers were also provided .

Two points for you soul doctor :

- kabalo man diay ka walay kwarta ngano ni entertain pa man ka ?
- kabalo ba ka na kung salesman ka ug sudlay kinahanglan ma kumbinsi jud nimo siya mo palit ?

wala gani ko ni-entertain niya specifically,
siya ra may mokalit og sagbat ug magpatunga dayon.
siya ba diay akong gibaligyaan.
siya pa man gani moingon nga ayaw mog palit ana!
sales man lagi dapat sad kahibaw ka kung naa bay kwarta imong gibaligyaan o wala.
siya ra ba diay pwedeng mopalit?

in your case, i might as well be convincing a wall.
no matter what i say, you will always counter "its all been debunked!"
without a single thought and almost automatic- you would just say "you never read the link i gave you".

that's not how you defend a point or make a debate.

say something intelligent for once.

[pantaleon]

Pila may gasto nimo tanan ani na hobby? Mga 50,000 kaha?