conspiracy theories

[rodsky]

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na intriga ko dah sa graphics nalang daan --- nahan ko mutry ani--

does it take a knowledgeable to try this one out or okey lang ba if ala jud ka alamag ani na simulations??

Pipila na ko ka times nag hatag ug invitation for a sort of "Orbiter/simulation" meetup/eyeball unya kamo raman ang dili mo respond *shakes head* I already asked for the specs of the computer I need, or if you cannot provide it, sa internet cafe nalang ta mag kita (assuming the PCs in that 'net cafe are good enough for the sim, ug mosugot mag plug ug portable drive ang cafe management). BTW kamo bayad sa cafe use, dili ako

If you were intrigued by the graphics lang, then you might be disappointed by Orbiter--it's NOT a game--simulation of Newtonian Physics dyud siya. For example, here's a simple surface-to-LEO maneuver (DG rendezvous with International Space Station) that I did an hour ago...



Kanang mga MFD (multifunction display) palibot sa screen (mga gagmay nga screen), you have to know how to use them--they are tools for calculation of various things like orbital inclination, plane-align, comms, orbital nodes, map display, and many many others. I've been an Orbiter user since 2002 so it doesn't feel overwhelming to me. On top of this, dapat dyud mag-tuon sa ka ug basic orbital mechanics, found here:

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/basics/index.php

http://www.braeunig.us/space/orbmech.htm

Here's a cool video tutorial by Tex, on how to align your encounter/orbital plane with a base on the moon. Even though dili tinood iyang spaceship (fictitious), ang physics involved sa maneuver dili fiction--it's actual Newtonian physics at work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnz2nsKjEQA

-RODION

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

in june 1999 Fema published this hand out

take note of the cover i linked to you.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc_target1999.gif

makita nimo nga ang naa sa cover ang world trade center nga dunay target or crosshair.
how did they knew nga target ang wtc in june 1999?

Hehehehe .... storbot diay ni ? And here you are , so firm that you have the guts to say IN JUNE 1999 , FEMA PUBLISHED this hand out ?

If this is EDITED by someone else , do you think it is rightful for you to say it here because you are now MISLEADING ?

Do you really think if this is a CONSPIRACY by the government kinatahy , they are that DUMB by displaying something that would easily bring them down by using a medium giving out clues ?

[treize]

Pipila na ko ka times nag hatag ug invitation for a sort of "Orbiter/simulation" meetup/eyeball unya kamo raman ang dili mo respond *shakes head* I already asked for the specs of the computer I need, or if you cannot provide it, sa internet cafe nalang ta mag kita (assuming the PCs in that 'net cafe are good enough for the sim, ug mosugot mag plug ug portable drive ang cafe management). BTW kamo bayad sa cafe use, dili ako

If you were intrigued by the graphics lang, then you might be disappointed by Orbiter--it's NOT a game--simulation of Newtonian Physics dyud siya. For example, here's a simple surface-to-LEO maneuver (DG rendezvous with International Space Station) that I did an hour ago...



Kanang mga MFD (multifunction display) palibot sa screen (mga gagmay nga screen), you have to know how to use them--they are tools for calculation of various things like orbital inclination, plane-align, comms, orbital nodes, map display, and many many others. I've been an Orbiter user since 2002 so it doesn't feel overwhelming to me. On top of this, dapat dyud mag-tuon sa ka ug basic orbital mechanics, found here:

Basics of Space Flight

Basics of Space Flight: Orbital Mechanics

Here's a cool video tutorial by Tex, on how to align your encounter/orbital plane with a base on the moon. Even though dili tinood iyang spaceship (fictitious), ang physics involved sa maneuver dili fiction--it's actual Newtonian physics at work: YouTube - PART 5: XR2 Wideawake to Brighton Beach Tutorial (Moon encounter)

-RODION

I'd like to try that simulation but time is the problem..

[Soul Doctor]

Hehehehe .... storbot diay ni ? And here you are , so firm that you have the guts to say IN JUNE 1999 , FEMA PUBLISHED this hand out ?

If this is EDITED by someone else , do you think it is rightful for you to say it here because you are now MISLEADING ?

Do you really think if this is a CONSPIRACY by the government kinatahy , they are that DUMB by displaying something that would easily bring them down by using a medium giving out clues ?

maybe they edited and revised it.
maybe they really knew in advance of whats going to happen.
even in the days before 911 attack, the pentagon is activating what they call a war games scenario where the white house and pentagon is under attack by terrorists. but later they denied doing such exercise.

[Soul Doctor]

@ SOUL DOCTOR ...

As easy also for you to say that it is CRAP ! You didnt even bother to read and you concluded right awya . The funny thing is , all the questions you guys raised are not even yours , it came from the CONSPIRACY THEORY SPONSORED WEBSITES over th years na ni abot na ang point nasobraan or nakuhaan but still holds the same idea of the question .

COntrary ana , the answers to the questions never changed . Stood still and firm on the ground because it is a one time conclusion out of research , analogy , investigation conducted by people who knows this best since these are their experties unlike you guys who has never been to ground zero yourselves , prefers a 2 minute Youtube video , and tells th experts that they are wrong .

By the way SOUL DOCTOR ... dont FLOOD the thread , incorporate your statements and replies into 1 big reply instead of making 5 succeeding replies .

Anyways ...



What are these GOOD REASONS ? You cant even compare FIRE ENGINEERING personnel ( nothing different from SANITARY ENGINEERS when actually they are just cleaners , title ra na siya bai ) from CIVIL ENGINEERS .

Read this carefully , I dont care if you say it is CRAP basta basaha lang .

CIVIL ENGINEERS :

Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and controlled demolition - Structural and Civil Engineers against Controlled Demolition

FIREMEN :

http://www.debunking911.com/quotes.htm



What you shared is a link of a picture , do you have actual PAMPHLETES / BOOKS , STUDY MATERIALS of these so called emergency manual that bears the exact image showed in the link ?

Considering this image is real and wala siya gi mugna mugna lang and walay nahitabo during 9-11 at all , what can you say about the image na naay target sa building ? Wala lang di ba ? In short CONSPIRACY THEORY !!

klaro baya nga gi-edit out ang cover picture bro. then sa second cover, obvious nga gi-ilisan na og bag-o ang cover, gipresent sad dayon ang actual nga contents para katuhuan na nga mao jud to ang actual nga cover.

kung tinuod pa ni ang imong gihatag nga original design sa cover, nganung duha ka different design man?
nganong ang usa blanko ang space for a picture, ug ang usa naay design or picture?

[Soul Doctor]

This is all an interesting read, Doc, but if your information came from a website then more than likely there's gonna be another website that will debunk your information.

Here's one: Stratesec

I can find 4 other websites that debunk your post by just using the same text you used in your post in a Google search.

Which ones do we believe?

of course they have to make more to make it more believable.

but the conspiracy theorist only have to present the questions. its up to the public if they will believe them or not. there is a growing movement of citizens asking the government to reinvestigate the 911. but i think they need a new president to support them. Obama is also a member of the Bilderberg group, the one responsible for all the criminal and economic conspiracies in the world.

by the way, what will you call the conspiracy theorist in the event that it turns out that what they are saying is true. or if we realized that they are right?

[Soul Doctor]

Kaning Spratly's Island ba. Sa pinas jud ni o sa mga Intsik?
masubay lagi ni adtong ZTE scandal.
wala ra ba jud napriso.

it another conspiracy theory bro.
it is believed that eventually, china will wage war with the phil and spratlys island will be the triggering conflict.
at this stage of this "art of war", dili pa time para atakehon ta.
hinay hinayan osa ta og piang sa china.

economics--
maong bahaan ta nila og barato nga products para madaut atong local businesses and eventually maguba atong economiya..

drugs--
himoon osa nilang adik atong mga kalalakihan para gamay na lang anga makadepensa sa nasod.
mao bitawng lagot kaayo sila nganung nibalik sa ilaha ang mga drugs nga para ra man unta to sa pilipinas.

education---
maong daghan nang mga activista,
bisan wala na gyud untay angayng i-protesta.
daan nga issue against sa U.S. aron mawala ang suporta sa U.S.
aron sayon na dayon kaayo ta sakopon nila.


industries---
mao nang gi-infiltrate na sa mga activista ug rebelde and mga labor union
para madown tanang major industrial plants and corporations.

government---
the campaign for government distrust,
para kung sila nay mopuli, dili na kaayo ta mopalag kay isaad nila nga mas kasaligan ang ilang pamaagi sa panggobyerno.

part of the "Art of War".

[Soul Doctor]

@ SOUL DOCTOR ...

As easy also for you to say that it is CRAP ! You didnt even bother to read and you concluded right awya . The funny thing is , all the questions you guys raised are not even yours , it came from the CONSPIRACY THEORY SPONSORED WEBSITES over th years na ni abot na ang point nasobraan or nakuhaan but still holds the same idea of the question .

COntrary ana , the answers to the questions never changed . Stood still and firm on the ground because it is a one time conclusion out of research , analogy , investigation conducted by people who knows this best since these are their experties unlike you guys who has never been to ground zero yourselves , prefers a 2 minute Youtube video , and tells th experts that they are wrong .

By the way SOUL DOCTOR ... dont FLOOD the thread , incorporate your statements and replies into 1 big reply instead of making 5 succeeding replies .

Anyways ...



What are these GOOD REASONS ? You cant even compare FIRE ENGINEERING personnel ( nothing different from SANITARY ENGINEERS when actually they are just cleaners , title ra na siya bai ) from CIVIL ENGINEERS .

Read this carefully , I dont care if you say it is CRAP basta basaha lang .

CIVIL ENGINEERS :

Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and controlled demolition - Structural and Civil Engineers against Controlled Demolition

FIREMEN :

http://www.debunking911.com/quotes.htm



What you shared is a link of a picture , do you have actual PAMPHLETES / BOOKS , STUDY MATERIALS of these so called emergency manual that bears the exact image showed in the link ?

Considering this image is real and wala siya gi mugna mugna lang and walay nahitabo during 9-11 at all , what can you say about the image na naay target sa building ? Wala lang di ba ? In short CONSPIRACY THEORY !!

sorry sir, dili man gud ko kahibaw mo multiple quote pareha nimo. pwede nuon ko nimo tudloan unsaon.
dili sad na flooding akoa.

mopost ra ko kung naa koy issue nga ipresent.
mapun-an ra nako kung naa koy bag-ong i-dugang.
it just so happens nga mopost ko at a wee time of night nga ako ray gatikawtikaw.
pero dili na flooding oi.

flooding kanang walay sense ug dili kinahanglan nga posts nga sigehan og balik-balik.
nga himoon aron dili na makapost og tarong ang uban.

kung daghan diay kog i-present nga information or i-ask nga question, flooding na diay na?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ SOUL DOCTOR .... what you did was flooding and since matod nimo di kahibalo mo multiple quote , I will let you slide it . That is FLOODING and what you meant with the senseless post are SPAMMING .

ANyways ...

maybe they edited and revised it.
maybe they really knew in advance of whats going to happen.
even in the days before 911 attack, the pentagon is activating what they call a war games scenario where the white house and pentagon is under attack by terrorists. but later they denied doing such exercise.

Lol ... here you go again . So firm in your statements . ANything to back it up ? Maybe they edited it ? The actual , real cover or the one you presented ? SO who are the editors ? The CONSPIRACY THEORIST ? Nag war games ang PENTAGON ? Wether it happened or not , FYI ... they routinely do that as part of the readiness excercise .

klaro baya nga gi-edit out ang cover picture bro. then sa second cover, obvious nga gi-ilisan na og bag-o ang cover, gipresent sad dayon ang actual nga contents para katuhuan na nga mao jud to ang actual nga cover.

kung tinuod pa ni ang imong gihatag nga original design sa cover, nganung duha ka different design man?
nganong ang usa blanko ang space for a picture, ug ang usa naay design or picture?

regardless of 2 different designs , the bottom line is ... dili siya image like what you presented . They are not that DUMB to do that . How sure are you na ang original design was the image you provided here ? By the way , I didnt provide that nor you did from the other image you thought of na original but guess what ? Sa 2 ka image na gi provide , ang naay target and ang eagle , which cover is more rightful ? More sensical ? More appropriate ? Makes more sense in all aspects ? Like I said , do you have the actual handouts yourself ? Ive seen that in front of my eyes ang real handouts and its the eagle .

of course they have to make more to make it more believable.

BUt their believable story really makes sense so what is there to sort out ? Nothing .

but the conspiracy theorist only have to present the questions. its up to the public if they will believe them or not. there is a growing movement of citizens asking the government to reinvestigate the 911. but i think they need a new president to support them. Obama is also a member of the Bilderberg group, the one responsible for all the criminal and economic conspiracies in the world.

Lol ... now this CONSPIRACY THEORY .

As much as how you present your questions , if naay answer mahatag ngano di man dawaton na sobra pa man sa satisfactory ang datas na provide ? If that is the case , CONSPIRACY THEORIST are indeed nuts ! Why bother asking questions in the first place if they cant handle the answers .

by the way, what will you call the conspiracy theorist in the event that it turns out that what they are saying is true. or if we realized that they are right?

To start with ... lahi ang approach sa CONSPIRACY THEORIST . CONSPIRACY THEORIST are people inclined already na convinced sila about the SECRECY of a certain group . The one you are talking about na what we call to people who thought of asking questions in an innocent way is just a normal person who ought to know the truth .

[THE SKULLS]

Here are Orbiter screenshots, if you know how to install it properly.
(non-Apollo add-ons)
And now here are Apollo-related add-ons:
So, I am being led to believe that this is what "bati" nga graphics looks like.
-RODION

mao diay ni iya graphics? kad**** lang pangita-on ko tong harddrive na ako gi-installan sa orbiter. mura dili ingon ani ang graphics year 2008.

mura man to ug graph2X lang.

magcapture ko ug screen shots. try nako post diri. pangita-on ko pa tong HDD.

if asa ka comportable modula ug simulation rods, akoy bayad.
piktyuri lang sa lagi imo set-up. ato tan-awon kung realistic ba jud.